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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Both the left and the right-wing of capital, liberals and conservatives, complain about cultural languages dying out. But it's not some pure past you can hang onto with pride, it's the result of how societies evolve through their economic and productive systems. There's nothing sacred about it and, frankly, the fewer languages acting as a barrier to a global proletariat the better. If you want to learn a dead language so much you can do it on your own time thanks to the internet these days.

>>2467061
>linguicide and cultural genocide but make it read
Okay.

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>>2467061
>If you want to learn a dead language so much you can do it on your own time thanks to the internet these days.

>>2467061
Basques can't stop winning tho ?

One of the reason France became like this is because De Gaulle (a figure beloved by conservatives) forbid kids to speak any regional language at school lol. Kids were unironically beaten by their teachers if they spoke Occitan, Picard or Francoprovencal.
Consequently, everyone ended switching to standard Parisian French and nowadays very few people still speak regional languages except in the Basque region and Corsica, as well as Bretagne and Alsace to a lesser extent.

>>2467115
This isn't de Gaulle's fault, the policy of promoting parisian French above local languages started with Francis the First's Ordonnance of Villiers-Cotterêts but it only became like you say during the Third Republic, as to promote french unity, nationalism and republicanism, against regional identities, by the Time of de Gaulle's presidency the process was already essentially done

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>>2467061
I don't care about languages, they should be preserved but I only care about the ideas that they express, untranslatable words are bullshit, I mean they may not have a ,1 to 1 equivalent but they can still be expressed in a more elaborate way, learning another language is just a massive time sink.

>>2467118
Authentic anglo take

Weren't all these languages just regional hick dialects of French anyways?

>>2467190
Essentially in the past, France was divided in two halves, the southern part where "Oc" was used to say yes, and the northern part where "oil" was used. French was one of those oil languages, specifically it was francien, the language of Paris and it's surroundings (Back then France only referred to Paris and it's surroundings)
Oil languages had a lot of similarities between them, but they were divided into multiple groups of mutually intelligible languages, So essentially, a speaker of Angevin could understand a Gallo speaker, but neither could understand Francien wheras a Francien speaker could basically understand none of the other languages.
Langue d'oc however were actually closer to Catalan (it was in fact a langue d'oc) then to langues d'oil.
When France started to centralise those linguistic different were starting to become a problem for the Monarchy, so they started to legitimise a specific langue d'oil, Francien, above others, this policy was continued by the Revolutionnaries, and even by the Third Republic.

>>2467210
This is just the same project of cultural centralization and nation building that literally every European state underwent is it not? I don't see why it's such a tragedy.

>>2467253
France was particularly successfull compared to other countries, they also were the first nation state, essentially no one today speaks Occitan, let alone any of the langue d'oil, but this is also true for languages fairly different from French, like Breton, Arpitan or Alsacian, finally, this policy erased most regionalist sentiment, this isn't true for most european countries,.

>>2467118
>untranslatable words are bullshit
they will never speak to you 👽

>>2467115
that was going to happen either way tbh, just not as quickly

>>2467119
>"anglo" is when you arent a petit bourgeois with loads of time to waste on random shit
get a life loser

>>2467780
Bro, if you weren't an anglo, then you wouldn't understand shit on this website

>>2467854
Ok, then you're a petit bourgeois with loads of time to waste on random shit, according to your own logic, retard

>>2467856
>learning todays lingua franca that you can easily translate with online tools too is like learning some dead language from centuries ago
lol

im still amazed you genuinely argued the only way to speak english is by being an anglo. peanut brain

>>2467863
I'm not arguing that, retard, I'm arguing that it's stupid to call people bourgeois for learning a second language since that whats lots of people do with English

It was always a weird, ethnonationalist thing to me too. Theoretically, it would be best if we all just spoke the same language. The tower of Babylon story shows diverse language as being a punishment.

And ethnonationalists are not socialists. It's horseshoe theory.

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>>2468289
All Ethnic groups/Nations will get their own SSR or SFSR in the future Global USSR (this will be created by the successful World Maoist PPW that will happen after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System), and obviously the Native Language of each Ethnic group/Nation will be the Official Language of their SSR or SFSR, in line with the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , the massive caveat is that the Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution will purge the Cultures of each of these Ethnic groups/Nations of all their Reactionary Superstructural Elements, with all Religion, Reactionary Clothing (ie. Religious Clothing, Bourgeois Business Suits, Women’s Dresses/Skirts, etc.), and Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity (ie. Women having Hair longer then a Pixie cut, Dresses/Skirts, Makeup/lipstick, etc. and eventually the Global USSR will liberate Women from the oppressive nature of childbirth through Artificial Wombs, which will finally fully flatten the Reactionary Gender Binary), will be Banned just like they were in Maoist China, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!


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>>2467061
What language would you choose, OP?

>>2501850
Obviously OP's native tongue because they are too lazy to learn new languages so everybody should be forced to learn their language instead of the other way around. Problem is that even the current 'lingua franca', English, has only 300 million or so native speakers with the rest of the 1 billion 'speakers' barely being able to drop a single coherent sentence of English, or being completely incomprehensible because of a very thick accent making their English language skillz mostly redundant.

>>2501850
The imaginary Fake “Langauge” of “Esperanto” is Bourgeois Liberal Individualist Idealism that will be Banned in the Global USSRs Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, with all “dictionaries” of this Fake Bourgeois “Language’ burned and all “Speakers” of “Esperanto” forced to wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and sent to Reeducation Camps, just like all Religion will be outlawed, all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas etc. bulldozed, all Religious clothing banned, and all Priests/Ministers/Rabbis/Monks/Nuns/Imams etc. forced to wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, while all Bourgeois Capitalist Roader Revisionists, Liberals, and Fascists will also be forced too wear Dunce Caps, attend Struggle Sessions, and get sent to Reeducation Camps, and all Women will be forced to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter), and Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/lipstick are banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, and flatten the Reactionary Gender Binary (Artificial Wombs will accelerate this as well), while everyone will be forced to wear Mao Suits (Capitalist Business suits are Banned as well), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

We all individually speak our own unique human language that forms organically in the brain during childhood by some means we don't understand, and some people's languages are just similar enough that they can establish communication. Read Chomsky.

>>2501881
Muslims will never abandon their religion

>>2501965
Well techinally yeah. They would simply stop being Muslim.

>>2501983
That will be never happen ﷽

>>2501987
It will be happen and reactionaries like you will be purged as well.

>>2502047
Not be happen

Melenchon is an opportunist, a lifelong anti-communist

>>2467061
OP should learn Esperanto.
Language differences isn't the only barrier to a global proletariat.
Barriers to remove for the global proletariat:
#1:
Political barriers of the hegemonic powers between NATO and Russia is another barrier.
#2:
Religious barriers between Christianity, Islam, Judaism. Between sects of Christianity, Catholic, Orthodox, Protestantism.
#3:
Nationalism & racialism.

>>2502245
How about high-speed rail and the internet?

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>>2501881
Can we have tshirts

>>2502486
Only when you are inside of your Commie Bloc Apartment (all “Single-Family Homes” in “Suburbia” will be Bulldozed, with “Suburbia” either replaced with High-density Walkable Commie Blocs connected with Streetcars/Subways/Bullet Trains, or allowed to return to Nature, 🚆🚊🚋🚇🚄🚅🚈🚉🚃🏙️🌇🌃🌆🌲🌴🌳🌵✊😜!), as when you are in public you will have to wear a Mao suit over your T-shirt like they did in Maoist China, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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Not only should we preserve as many languages as possible, we should actively promote creating new languages. You should be required to create your own conlang in order to graduate basic education, on top of learning your native language, the lingua franca, and a random endangered cultural language chosen for you. Not being a polyglot should be illegal. You should be capable enough to read and write an epic poem in each language. This would be the final exam for each of them. If you think this is expecting too much, your understanding of human capabilities has been turbo-cucked by capitalism squandering human potential.

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>>2501836
>Women having Hair longer then a Pixie cut
<doesn't mention body hair at all

>>2502962
Women are not supposed to have Body Hair, and after the Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, all Women will be forced to keep the Hair on their Head extremely Short (Pixie cut or Shorter), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2503064
>Women are not supposed to have Body Hair
ok urbanite, keep your ingrown hair cysts

>>2503089
That only happens if you don’t know how to use a Razor, or don’t clean it with Rubbing Alcohol, 😂🤣! By the way, Comrade, what do you think of the Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution forcing all Women to keep the Hair on their Head extremely Short (Pixie cut or Shorter), ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🤔?

>>2503256
>That only happens if you don’t know how to use a Razor
razors are bourgeois and shaving your natural body hair to appear more childlike is an urbanite degeneracy, same with wearing glasses creating the illusion of larger eyes
>forcing all Women to keep the Hair on their Head extremely Short (Pixie cut or Shorter),
why restrict it to women? some men can grow longer hair too if not cut often enough

comrade, you don't seem to be invested in the cultural part of the "GPCR" enough, please keep that in mind when you'll be attending today's self-criticism session

>>2503406
gender abolition and maoist revolutionary androgyny is unironically transphobic and would only hurt people with dysphoria

>>2503444
>workers rights are unironically ableist and would only hurt disabled people
try harder

>>2503444
Flattening/Abolishing the Reactionary Gender Binary by forcing all Women to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter), Banning Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/lipstick, replacing Reactionary “Natural” Childbirth with Artificial Wombs, and forcing everyone to wear Mao Suits (Capitalist Business suits are Banned as well), is extremely Historically Progressive as it will both liberate Women from the Reactionary Superstructural chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, and dramatically reduce the rates of Gender Dysphoria, with the caveat that Sex Changes will be Free and Legal if you still really want one so it is the Dialectical opposite of Transphobia, and Flattening/Abolishing the Reactionary Gender Binary will simultaneously eliminate the Superstructural basis of Sexism, Transphobia, Homophobia, and Patriarchy, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!


>>2503473
there is no evidence that androgyny would work to alleviate gender dysphoria from transfems "dramatically" as you claim

the reality is it would just hurt those of us who need the expression for a feminine identity

Also what about trans girls who dont feel like they look like a girl with short hair

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>>2503473
you are not abolishing the gender binary, you are reinforcing it by implementing different rules for the two genders
>forcing all Women to have extremely short hair
men can grow long hair too btw
>replacing Reactionary “Natural” Childbirth with Artificial Wombs
i highly agree with this though. what will you do to the bourgeois family structure?


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