>>2475189Well that's the thing, which leftist individually has the ear of the proletariat that they
could target in the way that any figure in the political establishment does over the state and bourgeoisie? There's no one ordering Kirk to be shot and no one encouraging the populace to celebrate his shooting, it's all the response of individuals to what the establishment chooses to promote and who they choose to promote it through.
They're angry and advocating suicide bombing Whole Foods because it's at times like these they realise that simping for the side that exclusively has kings, queens, rooks, bishops, knights, etc while the other side has pawns exclusively means you're not actually a punk at all, you're not the insurrection, you're not the 3.5%'ers.
When a pawn gets a shot off at one of the larger pieces and the shocked reactionary demand comes for retaliation, what piece amongst the pawns would be sufficient? None of them, the only alternative is lots of them.
>>2475204Damn you’re right. Even if the shooter is exactly the type of person they think it is, there’s no left equivalent of Kirk or any of their weird wirecloth daddies. Nobody would care if AOC or whatever got shot.
>>2475200I’m only here because every site on earth is doing psycho crackdowns on even the mildest jokes.
>>2475175Yeah in this way Sam Hyde is just a /pol/tard. The second anything happens he’s screaming Kamala Harris is a n
* and leftists want to rape him.
>>2475233>Stickman?He was a helmet and gasmask-wearing fascist meathead / thug / enforcer type who clubbed someone over the head with a stick in 2016-2017 or so and became a symbol on the right.
>>2475187>Everyone's gangsta when political violence is based stickman, dodge chargers plowing into protesters, kids driving to other states to gun down leftists in "self-defence" but record scratch when Kirk gets shot … shooting the CEO of a health insurance company or the talking head of TPUSA isn't conducive to that fantasy.>>2475204>They're angry and advocating suicide bombing Whole Foods because it's at times like these they realise that simping for the side that exclusively has kings, queens, rooks, bishops, knights, etc while the other side has pawns exclusively means you're not actually a punk at all, you're not the insurrection, you're not the 3.5%'ers.I was thinking about the "spectacle" aspect of this. TPUSA is a corporate-style organization with a lot of money behind it, and it effectively serves as the Republican Party's campus youth organization, with chapters on many college campuses. They have full-time people going around setting up these chapters, bringing in speakers, and you can see the mass-produced / manufactured quality of this organization in its annual conferences and in the glossy signs and imagery. There was a TPUSA group on a college campus where I lived (awhile ago), and I knew some of the leftists at the college, and they were having problems with the TPUSA members as they were given cameras and encouraged to crash their meetings with the "I just want to debate" schtick. (The TPUSA people were thrown out and the leftists then set up a "guard" of sorts to watch the door.) It's a reproducible template, same gimmick, same signs sent to chapters straight from TPUSA headquarters.
Kirk's "debate me" stuff is also more like theatre or entertainment in practice, with Kirk as the head of a highly structured machine for extracting viral clips from tripped-up students, who serve as foils, while Kirk was calm and collected. It's set-up by design to convert hecklers, protests, and disruptions (people shouting at him, storming the stage, etc.) into MORE content. The confrontations produce the clips which get fed into social media which results in traffic statistics which is then presented in PowerPoint charts to the donors.
But the viral content-making machine the TPUSA created around Kirk also amplified his own sudden and violent death, which also totally disrupts that "system." People like predictable progression like pop music. Introduce chaos and "noise" and the music stops making sense. People get nervous.
>>2475242>I'm not happy or sad that Charlie Kirk got whacked, what I'm interested is what happens next. >>2475247>They’re like trying to lay this guy in state. TBH I’ve been going around reading the net expecting bad things but to my surprise I don’t see mass consensus on this. I guess they're trying to regain a feeling or sense of control?
>>2475247It’s the first time I’ve seen anything in the mainstream with the same “fuck them kids” type reaction that normally only weirdos like me have.
I think the majority might finally have shock jock fatigue.
>>2475294Honestly, a few ultras came here to cry that this shooting won't accomplish anything, but if nothing else, it turned 🍀reddit.com🍀 into a decent website for just one day.
It's a 9/11 miracle.
>>2475217Whatever happened to that guy who would crash out over Jimmy Neutron? I miss his rants.
>>2475324When people make claims like that about AOC it feels either completely misguided or hyperbolic. Either way it makes it easy to become disconnected about how normies view her.
>>2475189Yeah I don't get how they think a civil war would work geographically. We all live amongst each other. None of my neighbors had political signs in their yards and none of us have bumper stickers. No one knows who votes which way. How the fuck will they identify each other?
I'm not going to walk around with a Fuck Trump sign on my back. Or will the government give it a push?
This is my stoned paranoid mind running wild, but what if they unleashed some sort of A.I. on forums like this and publicly doxxed everyone along with all of their posts?
That would suck. Years of being "anonymous" only to have it be tied to my IP addresses over the years through some computer sleuthing magic and be outed in my town as whatever you could assume from my thousands of posts.
I sure hope that's never possible. And I am not prepared for anything. Money in the bank will be useless if there's some major shit. I have no guns or stockpile of food and clean water. No working generator, no plan whatsoever. Not even a stash of opiates and booze to kill myself with if needed.
I have the money. What should I do with it while I have time?
>>2475418"Trump says that person went to "the father", who went to a US Marshal - "who was fantastic by the way".
Trump says the "person" - presumably the person who recognised the suspect - was a "person of faith, a minister"."
It's a father in religious way, not literally his father^^ As far as I understand
>>2475415>Donald Trump saysWhy the hell is he announcing this to the public before the authorities do. He did the same thing with Kirk's death, too.
He's not good at all with hiding who his special little buddies are. The metal of freedom just turned into a favoritism award
>>2475421And you believe that?
Why would it be ironic?
>>2475428I noticed this weird shit with the tshirt too but
>1: It's basically where his heart is>2: You're going to need a beefier bit or armor to stop a rifle bullet I think>3: They don't deflect because they aren't metal, kevlar is more like fiberglass and cloth Ultimately doesn't matter
>>2475462That's tame. There are lots of rightwing dingbats who think that. He's not advocating for the same shit as Kirk beyond that type of weak and common point.
No matter what Shapiro has said he seems like a lesser evil. If only because at least he's not in danger of becoming one of those "it's the JEWS" schizos. That counts for a lot these days.
Dammit I hate going to sleep while news is unfolding. But I need to catch some Zs. The indica rice crispy 25mg I ate has mixed with the kief-topped bong hits and I cannot fight it anymore.
>>2475483lol
>>2475426M A T E R I A L
C O N D I T I O N S
>>2475567Ugh
At least he was homophobic
>>2475629The problem is that Zionism is central to American politics now as the government is practically worshiping Israel with religious level of zealotry - and this attitude infringes on all the corners of American politics, starting with free speech - criticizing Israel is extremely punishable now and this might be just the beginning.
In other words, Zionism became a backdoor to reinforce fascism in America - albeit its potential for popularity is ridiculously low and it must backfire spectacularly.
>>2475696Retard.
>>2475636Also retard,
>“So much of the success we’ve had in this administration traces directly to Charlie’s ability to organize and convene,” Vance wrote on social media, referencing Kirk’s role in getting Donald Trump elected last year. “He didn’t just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government.” >>2475712Yes it is.
>>2475711Still suspect yeah.
>>2475390civil war is not a "just go kill your neighbor" polyp fantasy (unless its some stupid ethnic shit), its "we have two concurrent governments, and they are drafting people to fight each other"
and honestly I dont think a civil war in the usa is likely, your government and army are way too powerful and all your security forces are behind it
years of lead style frequent assassination of political figures now that can happen, but even then I have some doubts it would that common
>>2475757No, he only got caught because his dad snitched on him lmao.
Ted K also got turned in by his brother.
>>2475798The fact that the name was change indicates it's some rando.
>>2475771False information.
>>2475799>The fact that the name was change indicates it's some rando.lol almost certainly some retarded /pol/tard guess based on circumstantial evidence, just like they "identified" several people as the shooter in the past 24 hours and it turns out none of them were tyler robinson
some people here really think that /pol/ is some secret well of truth
>>2475754just because a few morons say this doesnt mean it has anything to do with reality
>>2475751at this point im pretty sure they just arent engraved, or we would have seen them, and theres no way someone gonna engrave that much shit on a fucking bullet casing
>>2475836Yea, the guy is into
vore which is hot but he's pretty cute ngl.
Here is his channel if you are curious:
https://www.youtube.com/@FemboyVulpAAAix He honestly looks pretty similar to the supposed shooter.
>>2475869>dude was obviously just a nihilist that wasn't a complete cuntI wouldn’t necessarily say this either.
>>2475878>>2475879That father has fucked himself now. He got an entire political spectrum after him now for a variety of different reasons. Should’ve just stayed quiet and remained unknown.
>>2475851Nobody believes the media anymore. The right wing has all these institutions but
1. Nobody trust or believes in any of these institutions
2. Neoliberalism has gutted these institutions so they’re completely ineffectual
3. On top of being massively defunded they’re now all stacked trumps friends. Moronic grifters
It’s over for rightiods, nobody cares if they get gunned down in the street and most people want to see it including other rightiods. These people will never reach the competency of the Nazis, which is saying something considering the Nazis were all mornic esoteric grifting faggots too. The fact we’ve been cowed by these people is embracing.
PAPER TIGER >>2475911The real question is will they find furry ERP?
That is now the question gripping this young nation.
>>2476000"
what the difference"
>>2476003>>2476003ukraine
that was made by an ukranian neo nazi "satanist" group
>>2476003>damn even the ops in langley have been outsourced to india<le langly 200%!People can be schizo fascists without you, american. Believe it or not but not
everything revolves around you at all times.
>>2476059It's really really weird which songs the far right chooses to associate themselves with internationally.
For example in the UK, Germany and Scandinavia Neo-Nazis groups are obsessed with playing Gigi D'Agostino's 2000s rave classic L'amour Toujours while giving Hitler salutes and the like
>>2476037>posthow is what he is saying not hate speech?
>>2476046>troops don't hold allegiance to states Dumbest thing i have read ots in a while, what do they hold allegiance to then, the moon?
>>2476146whats with rightoids and their cringe warhammer/deus vult crusader shit
is it legit autism?
>>2475246>But, like, what do these people think Kirk was actually achieving? That's the point. He did nothing. He was as known
for his small face and for crawling around in a diaper that one time as he was for his actual debates. Leftists thought he was worth assassinating in broad daylight in front of his family and thousands of college students anyway.
>>2476220Not "source" per se, but people have noticed that the bullet engravings fit groyper culture.The Ciao Bella song, despite being about antifascism, has been co-opted by fuentes and used against antifa. It's also on the groyper playlist right now.
The "bulge OwO" thing is also used by the groyper community when doing "transvestigations" and mocking furries.
Nick fuentes has also called charlie kirk a fascist who is a fake conservative and secretly a liberal, and in general they seemed to have been feuding lately. This would explain the "catch this fascist" engraving.
>>2476252He should have been killed long ago.
Debate is worthless. You do not debate your oppressor and those who stand with the oppressor.
We must be getting raided still. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
>>2476252Dumbass
>>2476285Also his organization does the editing lol
>>2476350and then peterson lost a jubilee debate, got CIRS immediately after and disappeared again
>>2476361prolly feels gritty and sandy tbh
>>2476383because youre repeating retarded slogans lol
>>2476367>the publiclol youre just a lib looking for votes but dumber, not a serious communist
>>2476383>nuanceno, it requires complete revision. why stick to the old script and not makea new one?
>equality for all and abolish capitalismi'll play kirk in this situation:
- we already have equality, and capitalism is better than socialism, which has failed every time its been tried.
>>2476384>>2476390>decided to not follow the conversation but jumped in anyway https://x.com/DavidShuster/status/1966576856515203480Groyper shooter confirmed
He hates Charlie Kirk for not being radical enough and covering up the Epstein stuff
>>2476396>>decided to not follow the conversation but jumped in anywayyoure literally a bunch of libs but even more impotent and stupid than the democrats
>>2476398communism is about the proletariat im pretty sure
>>2476403"the public" is a vague abstraction that in practice includes people of any class. its like speaking of the masses, humanity, civilization, etc. absolutely useless
>>2476406>communism is a classist movement about the emancipation of the proletariat>uhhhh but proletarians are humans so is communism not about humanity ergo we need to appeal to humanity instead of focusing on proletarians :DDDDDDyou are retarded lol
>>2476399Thanks anon. I was on the fence earlier about him being a groyper or a leftist. You have cleared things up completely.
Groyper confirmed.
>>2476439>its a "no"its a "yes, but no" as youve already admitted
keep sageposting though.
>>2476437im asking questions and people are getting mad - almost as if what people say is based on nothing.
>>2476447>homophobic insults because im asking you a basic questionvery intelligent.
>>2476446so communism is an elitist anti-human ideology?
>>2476448>>2476440>perspectiveits not an opinion lmfao. if you want to appeal to other classes then just go join some irrelevant political party or even the democrats
>u mad bro?lol youre just getting called retarded bc of your retarded posts brah
>>2476449>and won't reveal his plansway to out yourself as some retarded faggot who spends all day doing nothing of worth. communism isnt some magical indecipherable shit its literally just trying to unify the disconnected struggles of proletarians
>>2476245>Nick fuentes has also called charlie kirk a fascistSource?
I know he didn't like Kirk, but did he actually say "fascist"?
>>2476453>communism is an elitist anti-human ideology?Holy shit, you are
so close to getting an understanding you would've had if you bothered to read literally anything before coming in here………..
>>2476456im being called homophobic insults, not ableist insults
>>2476458so thats a "yes"?
>>2476466>yescommunism is an elitist anti-human ideology
good to know.
>>2475462Shapiro is objectively worse than Kirk
Shapiro and Destiny are the two biggest scumbags
>>2476245This is such a reach.
Most likely the shooter was either a leftist (probably some sort of Anarchist) or a lib.
I still haven't seen anything (excluding an unsourced tweet) that would point to it being a right winger.
>>2476521>>2476538Wait did he actually post a fucking fake screenshot?
I figured it was bullshit cuz there's now talk about how it was one of his family who said Kirk was too hateful and not the kid himself.
>>2476591Oh mah gaa
It's Astolfo in the daily fail
>>2476578Nah, like it or not the “ur gae” disqualifies it from the left.
>b-but it’s not THAT homophobic!This is why your guy is dead.
>>2476609On another note, Tucker's 9/11 documentary, which was supposed to air on 9/11, hasn't aired as of yet apparently.
Considering that 9/11 was an obvious inside/CIA/Mossad job, this raises additional questions.
>>2476718does azealia banks count
but seriously all the e-celebs are afraid of getting merc'd now lol
>>2476333>yet to see >exceptions applysounds contradictory
>I say this as a communistthen you should know most public debates are just rhetorical duels with 0 value to the search of truth, and debates between people with opinion too far apart are simply completely worthless at anything but spectacle. But im pretty sure if you looked for it you could find libs decent at it.
also communist are simply not present in mainstream discourse so ofc you wont see them debating people.
>>2476718I’ve being feeding on this like a crack whore, and the only place where shameless video content isn’t getting instantly struck is somehow TikTok. I’d never used TikTok before this. But it’s obviously short form brainrot.
There are a few people on YT that I know of that might, but they’ve all suddenly gone silent and I’ll feel dumb if I namedrop them and they come out bitch made.
>>2476718but it is a tragedy to waste a life: mr. kirk should have been given the opportunity to attend re-education, or if he was truly as stupid as he acted he could have served his country doing simple tasks somewhere his poisonous words couldn't offend or incite otherwise decent people. 🥲🥲🥲
education is liberation anon. 🫡
>>2475352boolet didn't go through his head though
also the cock man is right. just having a cardiac event like hyperrythmia will cause you to black out very quickly, and you don't have any time to reflect on it except maybe "oh shit I'm blacking out I don't want to die". cockshott is wrong on it having to have been some kind of "trained sniper". more on this below
>>2475284>this is the power of the gunthe gun is good
it doesn't take long to get decent with a rifle. with a good rest you can hit 1 MOA (1" at 100yards/2.5cm at 100m) if there's no wind. the kill zone on a human is about 30 cm in diameter. at 200 meters that's 6 MOA which shouldn't be too much trouble, again assuming no wind. 400 meters is probably the limit where things become significantly more difficult
with a semi-auto you can squeeze off a couple more shots before escaping, but even a bolt-action is pretty fast if you train with it. semi-autos have a risk of jamming that bolt-actions don't
suppressors are also important. a big game hunting can like the Stalon XS149, the A-TEC MEGA H2 or the HQS Hunter X will bring the noise down 30-40 dB
finally, soft point bullets will cause an animal to bleed out swiftly
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