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>>2489839Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisLast thread was deleted due to being an utter dumpster fire where the OP himself fucked everything up, let's try a little better this timeOne thing I get so sick and fucking tired of is every time anything bad happens in a red state, or really any state at this point, any time anything bad happens to anyone, there is the top comment, the top fucking remark is some liberal going, well, you got what you vote for, maybe you'll get out and vote. Do you really think that this government represents any fucking citizen of this country? You're out of your fucking mind, you're out of your fucking gourd. The government only represents the corporations. You have the illusion of control. The liberals are so invested in this system that they literally see no other alternative to it. They just piss me off. Oh, there was a big fire in Louisiana. Well, most people deserve to burn to death. You got what you vote for. Louisiana is a neo-colony, an extraction colony. The people who live in Louisiana, which is a primarily black state, do not have any control, really, over their own government. Because the government is representing the corporations doing the extraction. This is neo-colonization. It's like very basic economic theory. But you get what you vote for. The votes don't matter. Corporations control the government. You get what you vote for. This is a completely ridiculous worldview that I have such a fucking hard time with. Wishing despair on people because of imaginary fucking ballots being cast. When the majority of the country doesn't vote, liberals make me fucking sick.
You know what, you know what I've noticed? Is the people who are the most politically educated, the people who have the logical reasoning and theory as to why the system is immoral, why the system needs to be burned to the ground, why the system is causing all this harm, the people who have read the socialist books, these people are typically, almost certainly, well-resourced, well-off, working good jobs, making good money people. These are people who are making more money than I will ever touch at a job. And they have the lowest risk tolerance imaginable. A radical action to those people is going to a predetermined march around the city and holding a sign and feeling like they did anything of note. They didn't, but they feel like they did. Meanwhile, people who are willing to take the most risks, people who are willing to do the most, people for which burning down this system is a matter of life and death, people with nothing to lose, they typically have not read very much at all. Sometimes they don't even know how to read. And we can immediately go, okay, what is the racial breakdown of that? Because typically the white folk are well-educated, well-fed, well-resourced, and know things need to be burned down, but will not take the risks relying on the people who are unresourced, disenfranchised, non-white, to take those risks. And that has always been a little bit fucked up to me. You know logically, you have all the theory as to why this system is fucked up, but you can't take the risks because you don't want to lose the comforts this system has granted you, and I find that to be ever so slightly disgusting. Especially when you have people out here risking everything, not to burn the system down, not to organize, not to do revolution, but to simply feed their children. We've got men out here risking five to ten years in prison to steal diapers. It shouldn't be on the most disenfranchised people to be the leaders. They've taken enough shit. Step the fuck up. Do fucking better with your resources, with your time, with your energy, because you owe it to the fucking people.
>>2491316I'm just so fucking tired of educated motherfuckers telling me about some shit about political revolution, or reformist nonsense, or who we vote for, like, bitch, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I get so sick of people who have read all the right books, and can say all the right things, but have never experienced struggle. Getting to determine who, or how to struggle was fucking lit. Like, you don't get to determine shit. You can't even stop eating Uber Eats. Delivery, you get delivery twice a day to your fucking Raytheon-ass job. The old Raytheon-ass fucking job. You working for the fucking empire, and its keeping you comfortable. But because you fucking watch fucking, what, Second Thought on YouTube? You get to have a say? You get to call yourself a socialist? Bitch, you ain't shit. You ain't never gonna be shit. Being a fucking revolutionary means willing to die for the people, and for the cause, and if you are not willing to die for it, then shut the fuck up. And give your resources to someone who is, and stay the fuck out of the way. That's how I really feel. That's how I really fucking feel. Because I am so sick of these internet-ass debates. I'm so sick of this fucking internet bullshit. I'm so sick of these fucking syncophant motherfucking Patreon accounts with making 90k a year. Talking about the most we could do is vote. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I'm not just saying the most we could do is vote to a motherfucker who ain't got no choice but to go steal some diapers. Why don't you just vote for some more fucking diapers, dawg? Why don't you just vote for them? Y'all motherfuckers make me laugh, for real.
>>2491298Lenin viewed homosexuality yet as a "depravate/sadistic" act or compared it as lust that would divide the revolution further and damage popular support, the reason he didnt criminalized it because he was supported by many gay people and criminalizing it would put the USSR on the level of powers imperialist powers like great britain, and because he died.
if lenin lived up to today he would be in favor of queer emancipation considering the advances on psychology and gender studies
>>2491336i am the anon; thank you for your reply
>>2491351unfunny lame standup comedy attempt
>>2491316Most people who read theory are broke themselves
>>2491349He stopped taking Tylenol
I be hating on America every day but it’s honestly tragic watching America rot like this, because for all its evil and madness, it’s the only country where you can immigrate to and actually be claimed as one of us. That feeling, that instant sense of belonging, this is uniquely American. Anywhere else, Europe, Asia, even the so-called progressive countries like Sweden, you’ll always be the foreigner, the outsider, the one who never fully fits, even if you were born there and carry citizenship. But here you can breathe the air, walk the streets, and feel American before you even get the papers. And it’s sad watching MAGA fascists destroy the one thing that makes America kind of cool.
>>2491436"Trump admin expected to link major pain reliever to autism" Lol teh fuck.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/21/health/trump-hhs-autism-reportCan't RFK do something useful like legalize psychedelics and MDMA
>>2491471truth nuke. and then when you point this out you get two varieties of trolls:
>umm what does palestine have to do with communism. who cares.or
>you're actually the real zionisthate this shit.
>>2491584>china is giving another 20 billions to israelthe majority weapons are from the US govt. No amount of boycotting israeli goods as an individual will stop the flow of weapons from your government to their government. You are out of reformist options.
>>2491581This is a deflection. You can't do anything to China without acting through your country's even more zionist military and government. You should start by cleaning your own house, which is much more disordered by every single metric.
>>2491581Should China stop selling stuff to israel? Yes. but you are trying to clean up a spec of dust 3000 miles away before you clean up the pile of shit you are standing in.
Is it "Good" that China sold 2 million in weapons to Israel? no. obviously not. But what did the USA sell to Israel in the same year? 665 million. That's literally 332.5 times more. It's not even close. And what is China selling? Mostly unassembled parts. It's not "Good" but it's not
as bad. No I am not felix asking you to risk your life right now but maybe you should consider that whining about China trading with Israel while sitting in the USA looks like you're crying about an anthill the top of a mountainpeak. Make sense? No? Still disagree? Then I don't even know where to begin with you.
>i can oppose both at the same time.But you should think of priorities. What is your power level of affecting Chinese policy relative to your power level of affecting American policy?
>>2491608what?
>>2491609>you are saying 20 billion more to israelnot at all. i said china shouldn't trade with israel. but you live in america. you can't do anything to china. you can fight your own government much more easily? Do you disgaree or deflect.
chinese trade with israel for money and vice versa. america actually gives israel weapons for free, in addition to trade. but if you just want to look at the raw numbers of israeli/chinese trade, that's also misleading, since the USA sells 332.5x more WEAPONS to israel than china does. do you acknowledge this or deflect and make up some shit I didn't say (again)?
see
>>2491615
>but the chiense sell commercial drones which get retrofitted with weaponsyes and they should stop doing that but I can't do anything about that and neither do you. Where do we live? Who is selling the most weapons to Israel? China? No. The USA, Italy, and Germany. Those are the biggest enablers of this genocide in a very long list of countries, one of whom is china, yes. do you understand what I'm saying now or are you going to keep pretending i'm saying "another 20 billion to israel" in bad faith?
>>2491385See
>>2485353:
>These people, however, are sociopaths, they're lizards. They don't give a shit about anything but themselves and this woman and what happened to her are just props for their insane desire to see every minority in a camp or whatever their particular fantasy is this week. If it wasn't her, it'd be someone else, and they'd be similarly forgotten by these freaks in a month. >>2491632>but i am literally an american arguing with other americans that the chinese are to blame.*arguing with other americans who are saying
god dammit
>>2491315These people spent months bragging about turning twitter into nazi pedophile central and saying that anyone who didn't want their healthcare or their families' healthcare taken away was stupid and irrational
Literally what the fuck were they expecting, it's a wonder how something like this didn't happen *sooner*
>>2491665It happened after my dad was born
>>2491673Indirectly via my dad
>>2491577I hate funko pops so much
They are fucking ugly as shit
>>2491713>Ohh so it's like an island resort! That doesn't sound so bad!What the NatCons and RFK Jr. have in mind is probably a lot like Nayib Bukele's "tropical resort" in rural El Salvador.
>>2491702>Comparing Donald Trump to Ibrahim Trarore.I don't want to see this image ever again.
>>2491637People are saying eugenics but it's honestly way fucking simpler.
Boomers got yelled at and hit if they didn't "act right" so it makes them angry when they see people being allowed to deviate socially in any way. It's similar to the anger over "manspreading" where nobody's doing anything wrong and they're just displacing anger from how their behavior was forcibly constrained (sitting with your legs together in that case).
>>2491758Mr. Star Spangeled uyghur doesn't deserve his thumbs. >Trump said it, so I believes it
His life must rock, all he has to do is listen to Trump.
<Paracetamol use by the mother during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk of childhood asthma, but so are the maternal infections for which paracetamol may be used, and separating these influences is difficultif you don't treat your illness, the infection might kill your baby off instead of letting them survive into adulthood with a chronic disorder which Jeffrey Epstein's friends don't want to pay a few extra dollars of health insurance for. They literally want fewer children to survive difficult childbirths
>>2491945>Organic chemistry seems fucked up.Yes, but tynenol is actually simple and could be comprehended in an undergraduate college class:
<"N-(4-hydroxyphenyl)acetamide" compare it to some other normalized chemical we see everyday like caffeine:
<"1,3,7-Trimethyl-3,7-dihydro-1H-purine-2,6-dione"caffeine is literally a similar class of chemical as urine acid but you won't see these stimulant addict pisspig fascists ban it!
<The word purine (pure urine) was coined by the German chemist Emil Fischer in 1884. He synthesized it for the first time in 1898. The starting material for the reaction sequence was uric acid (8), which had been isolated from kidney stones by Carl Wilhelm Scheele in 1776we salute our brave heroes in 1776 🫡🦅
>>2491972>I think you're reading too much into it.what part was reading into it too much? saying it was a dogwhistle?
>Could be he was just trying to think of a levantine food and of course he has no knowledge of what they ate in biblical times there.that is exactly what i'm saying though, just in a more roundabout way
>>2491680First a tragedy
…
This already was done in the first term.
The greatest aid packet done by the IMF (and now triying to be paid lolololooool) was done to save his economy from the heckin leftisterinooos of Peronism (didn't matter since the guy was a centrist cuck)
>>2492011 (me)
33 pesos to now 1400 pesos per dollar
bruh…
>>2492022>I've been accused of carrying water for Big Pharma for for pushing back against antivaxx propagandathose people are deeply unserious
>So what in the goddamn fuck is this?reactionaries are inherently hypocritical because they have no consistent theory of reality. they are just reacting to things by definition.
https://fortune.com/2025/09/22/reed-hastings-democratic-megadonor-supports-trump-h1b-visa-policy/One of Silicon Valley’s most prominent Democrats just called Trump’s $100k H-1B visa fee a ‘great solution’
>As tech leaders across Silicon Valley blasted President Donald Trump’s new $100,000 H-1B visa fee as a threat to innovation, Netflix cofounder Reed Hastings broke ranks, calling it “a great solution.”
>In an X post on Sunday, Hastings said he has worked on H-1B politics for three decades and argued the steep cost would reserve visas for “very high-value jobs,” eliminating the lottery and giving employers more certainty.
>Hastings’ support is surprising for a few reasons. For one, as one of the biggest Democratic ‘megadonors‘ who is heavily involved with party politics, he rarely endorses any of Trump’s actions and in fact has said the President “would destroy much of what is great about America.”
>Secondly, Hastings’ support cuts against the dominant mood in the tech industry, where most companies are alarmed about higher costs and the chilling effect on talent pipelines. Elon Musk, the on-again, off-again ally of the Trump White House, has fiercely criticized the potential changes to the program.
>Many local tech leaders have said that the six-figure fee could deal a serious blow to innovation and competitiveness in Silicon Valley. Venture capitalist Deedy Das, a former H-1B holder and partner at Menlo Ventures, warned that the policy undercuts America’s biggest advantage: Its ability to attract global talent.
>“If you stifle even that, it just makes it that much harder to compete on a global level,” he told CBS News.
<Against that backdrop, Trump’s Friday proclamation requiring a $100,000 payment for each new petition sent shockwaves through the tech sector.
<Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick initially said the fee might be annual, fueling panic among employers. By Saturday, the White House clarified: it’s only a one-time payment applied to new petitions in future lotteries, not renewals or re-entries by existing visa holders. Lol it's a gacha system that costs $100k per roll, and maybe you get an employee.
<“This is NOT an annual fee,” spokesperson Karoline Leavitt wrote on X.
<The clarification calmed some immediate fears, but not the broader unease. Many employers rushed to get their H-1b holders tickets to fly into the U.S. before the fee was enacted. Indian biotech professional Shubra Singh told CNBC that her Saturday dinner in Pittsburgh with H-1B friends was derailed by anxious news alerts that left many rushing to change travel plans. >>2492040>Do you see Israeli genocide stopping anytime like "the wind"?In my analogy, American opinions are like the wind. They change frequently and rarely pick up enough momentum to blow anything important over. In this analogy the genocide is not "the wind" but the thing that the wind is failing to blow over.
>more people are holocaust deniers nowleave it to Americans to finally become anti-zionist in the most retarded and reactionary way possible
>>2492079She has her head down, then she turns her head to the sky perfectly synced with the rising crescendo. So fucking cheesy.
I really think Evangelicalism is just musical theater for people who hate gays.
>>2492082Let the woman mourn her loss
I don’t like the misogyny I’m seeing here
>>2492096What is it with such extreme violent talk here
You are becoming like /pol/
>>2492142Okay fine I'll read it.
Okay I did and FUCK YOU I was right. They are.
Women aren't championed for OF, they're constantly harassed about it. Men aren't called losers for having sex. That shit just doesn't happen. Nobody is demonized for being an "OF pimp." Literally does not happen and I can't even name one.
The severity of the impact of pregnancy on a woman's entire being is probably not well understood by the young man writing this. It will become clear when he's older and more mature.
Men aren't branded as losers for being stay-at-home dads. That shit literally does not happen. Women are constantly attacked for not having children and having careers instead. It's pretty much relentless and mainstream (constant bitching about TFR). Also welfare is for everyone.
Misogynists like Tate are very popular. They run the government really. Feminism may have had it's moment but it's over.
Schizoposting.
Schizoposting.
>>2492146>Men aren't called losers for having sex. That shit just doesn't happen.bruh who are you trying to fool
it was the feminist liberals who mainstreamed virgin shaming and calling everyone you don't like an "incel"
>>2492151I really do wonder where people are picking up on the message "you're AWESOME for doing OF." lol. That message just doesn't exist in culture anywhere.
In reality, girls are harassed about it especially often, and usually because they don't have one. They'll get comments and messages taunting them and accusing them of inevitably selling nudes. They'll be attacked for anything that gets them money otherwise, and if they don't have OF and refuse, viewers just make posts in thier comments about them having a secret OF anyway. This is basically a ubiquitous treatment for attractive women lol. Fending off this stuff is unpopular and often pointless.
It goes without saying that if they do have OF they're just treated like trash, and they can't use social media. They just have to have anonymous alts.
>>2492147>>it was the feminist liberals who mainstreamed virgin shaming and calling everyone you don't like an "incel"Read the words you are replying to again man.
The original post said that men who have casual sex are "shamed as predators and losers."
And the post you are responding to says that that does not happen.
>>2492163Ahh the number one obsession of American ‘leftists’: SEXXXO!!!!!
Followed closely by DRUGGGS!!!
>>2492170The mods nuked the thread
Not chagosposter
>>2492176The ruling class? More like the child molester class.
there’s a reason so many Americans are insane about the subject of pedos. Like 60% of this county has been diddled. Prolly why were all sexual neurotics, flipping back and forth between celibacy and hyper sexuality. The reason the Epstein has has so much sticking power in the media.
>>2492197Israeli-American Dual Citizen & Convicted Israeli Spy, Jonathan Pollard
“The 1st thing the [Israel] Gov should have done is tell the Hostage Families, you will keep your mouths shut or we will shut them for you”
>>2492213Please be a troll…
Either you're a glowing piece of shit or a complete moron if not. You think Candace Owens is hated only because she's a black woman?
>>2492238>Sorry blood and soil retardReading comprehension left the chat. Where did I say I support anticolonialism? I'm literally saying the opposite.
USA has the right to exist.
Israel has the right to exist.
Stop demonizing only one.
>>2492253There’s no peasants in America and 25k is vastly more than anyone in the third world outside the haute bourgeois is making
>but muh relative purchasing powerDoesn’t matter, access to infrastructure alone makes every American a non proletarian.
>>2492257moralism
>>2492256peasants aren't revolutionary so what's the problem?
>>2492297not really
>>2492298European nations openly display the German Nazi swastika and consider it their culture, they'll abandon liberal democracy, fascism will rise again and history will repeat as a farce. This is your future and america won't save you
>>2492301that's ridiculous
>>2492305you are agreeing with what i said. the USA will lead the fascist coalition of the global north
>>2492260Seriously, mods can we just ban these guys
>>2492257 ?
All this anon does is argue
>actually sweaty communism is when no iPhone >>2492298The U.S has been leading a fascist coalition since post WW2. That coalition is falling apart along with the U.S. The treats are dried up, the U.S ruling class sold its manufacturing base for more profits which allowed the “third world” to catch up in development. Barring WW3 capital has accumulated long past the capitalist classes abilities to paper over the contradictions and maintain the flow of treats. Communism(socialism) despite being demonized worst than Nazis for decades enjoys a plurality of support among Americans Youth and adult population and is only growing under increased state repression. Sorry burgers are going to have a redemption arc this century and be a beacon of hope for the working class the world over. The rest of world had decades to stop us but looks like only we can do it.
>>2492310Gas.
Ate too much burger
>>2492352my guess is still israel, the article suggests the attack, had it not been thwarted, would have disrupted the UN general assembly, and the UN general assembly is famously where you get all those votes every year where most countries basically voice that they are opposed to US foreign policy and, increasingly, Israel. I don't see any reason why Russia or China would want to disrupt the UN general assembly. They both usually use the UN general assembly to also voice opposition to US foreign policy. Russia usually puts forwards a symbolic vote to oppose nazism, neo-nazism, racial discrimination, and xenophobia, and basically only EU countries and the US vote against it which is a huge PR victory for Russia every year. People also oppose the US embargo against Cuba at the general assembly. They also recognize Palestine at the genera assembly. I see no reason why anyone other than the US, EU, NATO, and its proxies (Israel, Taiwan, Ukraine) would have any motivation to interrupt the UN general assembly.
>>2492416i suspect Americans stopped tracking climate related deaths. A lot of these heat deaths in Europe are old people, and vulnerable people. When it happens in the USA it's easy to write off ass "oh they were just old" or "oh they were just homeless."
I remember in Hurricane Katrina a bunch of prisoners were left to drown in their cells.
>>2492416>Europe has more heat deaths per year than America has deaths related to firearmsthis is because Europeans have a more laxed definition of "attributable-mortality" by heat, than the US CDC, which atributes only deaths by heat as "exposure to excessive natural heat". the US CDC even warns the limitation of such a categorization, because a person could die by heat by other means than being exposed to "excessive natural heat".
but even by European numbers
>>2492395140k is an exaggeration. he just wants the EU to buy burger oil/gas. that's all.
>>2492434>free healthcare for illegal alienscompletely made up nonsense that people will nevertheless believe. meanwhile let's keep subsidizing Israeli universal healthcare by paying for their military indirectly while they commit genocide.
This honestly reminds me of term 1 when he kept lying about the iran deal. saying that we were essentially giving the iranians billions of dollars of our money in exchange for nothing, when really we were just giving them back their own money that we unilaterally froze in the international banking system, in exchange for them letting the IAEA inspect their uranium enrichment facilities. Look at the total degeneration of that situation because of the US's absurd, narcissistic, sociopathic, brutal, and one-sided "diplomacy" where it makes fake deals with you and then tears those deals up even after you hold up your end? What reason does anyone have to trust this lying snake or the rotten country he is the avatar of?
>>2492465>Trump wouldn't lie because he's a Christiankeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek yeah he's a christian alright:
<pedophile<liar<secretly believes in nothing but himselfjust like your average catholic priest!
Here's a live update feed for the UN assembly.
(The contrast between Trump and every other world leader is cosmic)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/9/23/un-general-assembly-2025-live-day-one>>2492452>from the UN, they have their own calcsdid you read my post?
ack-shually, the UN receives the numbers of each state and then reports it back. the
WHO runs scientific models that are even more laxed than the European agencies. And unfortunately for the burgers, the WHO didn't use the same methodology they applied to the EU, with the US, because they rely on the CDC numbers.
but there are independent studies, not cited by the WHO, that show similar numbers to the loose numbers posted by the WHO
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/2023-set-a-record-for-u-s-heat-deaths-why-2024-could-be-even-deadlierbut right-wingers call it "hoax".
>>2492496No contradiction.
If you put on a purple shirt tomorrow that you chose out of your own free will, then God knowing in advance that you would do that would have zero effect. His omnipotence does not eliminate your decision or railroad you into one path.
>>2492512>The universe is fundamentally indeterminate>indeterminateooh la di da.
It's random.
>>2491680>the appearance of a healthy economynot even that. the loan will prolong the economic "plan" under milei:
>foreign companies take low interest loans in the US>they convert their dollars to ars at price X>they invest in argentine bonds with 40% to 60% interest rates>the argentine government uses imf loans to keep the exchange rate pegged at X>after a year these companies sell their bonds and buy dollars because they know the exchange rate is unsustainable>the government is forced to unpeg the exchange rate in a brutal devaluation>the small investors that didn't sell their bonds to buy dollars are left holding the bagno products or services were generated, all the money from the imf loans was transferred to private companies through garbage bonds and an artificial exchange rate. the absurd interest rates also means that the real economy couldn't access loans to invest and develop. but the working class will have to pay that debt, for generations
>>2492550>So the US cured autism?No, that's not what happened. They have developed and are now marketing Autism Pills.
They're called Tylenol or Paracetamol, i'm unsure of how often you need to give them or the dosage though.
>>2492514>The conpenhagen interpretation is an anti-communist meme.Let's say you have a single atom of radium, a radioactive element which has a half life of 1600 years. How long will it take for that single atom of radium to decay?
Answer: You can't know when it will decay. It could decay one nanosecond from now, it could decay 100,000 years from now, it could never decay at all; you can't know when it will decay because an individual isotope's decay is a random probability. The universe is fundamentally indeterminate.
>>2492578>What you guys think the capitalism symbol should be?capitalism isn't an ideology. it's a societal structure, based on a mode of production. It's like asking slavery to have a symbol.
communism is an ideology and a societal structure because it embeds the structure in a narrative of human emancipation. exploitative structure lacks of narratives, because they all fail to say they will achieve something positive, when deeply analyzed.
>>2492534Trump inflaming his european base like a executioner screwing the bolts in the rack.
Let's see how outraged are the eurocucks
>>2492665The correct angle here is that even a backwards monarchy knows that this shit sucks.
Not only is fascism evil, it's a pain in the ass materially for everyone who has to deal with it.
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