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Previous Thread: >>2495617

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Not reporting is bourgeois
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the main purpose of the US army to be stationed on Chagos is to bully Iran and to a lesser extent, China.
If anything, the Chagos issue must not be ignored by anti-imperialist americans as it is tied with anti-Iranian and anti-Chinese operations. You are so stuck-up on 'why should I care about Chagossians', you turned it into a sentimental burden, you cannot see the imperialist geopolitical side of things.
Also stfu about this '2nd best country in africa'. Best country in Africa means nothing. It is still lightyears behind the imperial core of the world. People will not shut up and take it in the ass just because they are in the second or third or fourth 'best country in Africa'.

>>2498497
Read Marx on the reserve army of labor, relative surplus popluation, etc. to learn why "just get a job lol" is not really a matter of personal choice under capitalism

>>2498499
others who are more deserving are getting raped, where as in comparison you are getting a mild yelling, so no i'm not gonna care, and it is an injustice that your little island got turned into a military base, problem is though they can bully iran without chagos just as easily

>>2498501
get a job, chagosian

>>2498502
>America can still bully with one military base fewer
>therefore, let us not do anything about that one military base
>the same logic applies to any other military base
>therefore we do nothing

>>2498499
this guy is just crashing out and thinks "being the villain" is how you shut other people up. deeply reactionary brainrot.

>>2498504
and do what exactly?

>>2498506
no it's how you tire them out by letting them get what they want and making them leave, no one is convinced the chagosposter either way

During the Cold War era, following the British withdrawal from East of Suez, the United States was keen to establish a military base in the Indian Ocean to counter Soviet influence and establish American dominance in the region and protect its sea-lanes for oil transportation from the Middle East. The United States saw the atoll as the "Malta of the Indian Ocean" equidistant from all points.[146] The island has served as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for United States activities during the Iranian revolution, the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Operation Desert Fox, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. In the contemporary era, the atoll retains a key role in America's strategic approach to the Indian Ocean, acting as a flexible forward military hub able to support a range of offensive activities.[147][148] American gunships based off the island participated in Ethiopia's invasion of Somalia in late 2006.

>>2498502
>i can't care about more than 1 thing at once
>asking me to care about anything is asking me to care about that thing more than anything else
>yeah it's bad but at least you're not on fire and getting rolled in glass
>being an asshole to people is how you make them shut up about the political issues they care about

this is the essence of your entire argument. it's stupid lol.


>>2498510
alright explain to me right now why anyone should care about the chagos islands problem as much as any other american atrocity

>>2498508
>it's not how you shut them up it's how you tire them out
everyone can just see you're being a dick and saying the occupation they suffer under is unimportant because At Least It's Not Literal Medieval Raping and Pillaging

>>2498512
>alright explain to me right now why anyone should care about the chagos islands problem as much as any other american atrocity
it's interconnected with those atrocities and part of the forward operations against Iran and China. someone already explained this.


>>2498513
no, it's because they live far better than many a victim of american atrocities, so i'll say it again for you, why should you care more about this island than any other victim of US imperialism? because are you gonna keep saying "noooo you can care about more than 1 thing at once!!! and it's like broken glass and rolling around!!!!!" because sure, but why is this island so important that i MUST care about it or i'm adolf hitler 30103103899

>>2498503
Not an argument, Not Chagosian, I have a job, Read Marx

>>2498514
and it isn't necessary for those either, sort of a problem if you ask people to care about it when it's barely a blip amongst issues that should be solved to combat american imperialism

>>2498517
>no, it's because they live far better than many a victim of american atrocities
what a race to the fucking bottom this is
again. your entire argument, laid out over all your posts is ridiculous:
>i can't care about more than 1 thing at once
>asking me to care about anything is asking me to care about that thing more than anything else
>yeah it's bad but at least you're not on fire and getting rolled in glass
>being an asshole to people is how you make them shut up "tire them out"* about the political issues they care about

>>2498514
earlier this year, when Iran and Israel were bombing each other and there was a risk of US getting into the shitshow, the B52 and B2 bombers of Chagos were on high alert to go bomb Iran. Even though there are military bases in the Gulf, USA prefers the bombers from Chagos to do the bombing because
(i) an attack from Qatar or Saudi will be met with retaliation on Qatari or Saudi soil, which the latter will not agree to.
(ii) Iran can easily attack Qatar and Saudi but Chagos is too far out.
The other anon is trying hard to paint Chagos as this smol bean military base with no relevance. In reality, it is one of the most important bases outside of Europe.

>>2498519
I never saw anyone ITT crash out so hard if someone brought up, for example, east palestine ohio chemical train crash leading to cancer deaths, or some other local issue. Why does this particular local issue getting brought up piss you off so much? I really don't understand. Just ignore if it doesn't interest you. You actually feed it by complaining about it, but also look like a cruel dickhead.

>>2498520
'far better' is an exageration. That guy has no idea about the life of chagossians. He just googled Mauritius and found nice tourist hotels on the beach, he concluded everyone on the island is having the good life. That's like seeing how rich whites live in South Africa, and assuming all 55million South Africans are living the good life. He would do well with apartheid nostalgists who usually say 'in the old days, South Africa was the best country in Africa. We produced so much. The rand was almost equal to the dollar'. He has /pol/ level reasoning.

>>2498525
your country is not at war, it isn't in a debt crisis, it has a low infant mortality rate, etc, by the standards of the region you are effectively living in paradise and you act like you are an ethiopian fleeing into a different province because your village has been attacked by genocidal militias, grow up

>>2498527
>your country is not at war, it isn't in a debt crisis, it has a low infant mortality rate, etc, by the standards of the region you are effectively living in paradise
this is literally the rhetoric neoliberals use to shut up 1st world workers

>>2498524
I think he is a glowie who served in the US airforce or navy in the past and he was stationed in Chagos. So seeing the Chagos issue brought up makes him lose composure.
There are many US servicemen who love chagos as its water is crystal clear and since American military men are the only humans there, they get this pristine untouched tropical beach all of themselves, without the crowd and pollution and what not

>>2498527
not gonna shut up just because others have it worse than I do
using that logic, americans and europeans should never bitch about anything, they should never oppose neoliberalism etc, since they live better lives than the rest of the world.
And when are you moving to Ethiopia or Sudan to help the locals there? It seems like you are most concerned about these countries, to the point where any other country's problem makes you lose your shit.

>>2498528
the difference is you're trying to claim that you've been dealt a truly unfair fate, when you've been dealt precisely the opposite, talk to the people from those countries i keep mentioning and you'll see why i keep bringing it up

We need to do something about this antisemitism

>>2498532
the fact that other countries have it worse does not mean we have been dealt a 'fair fate'.
You are imperialist through and through, you believe it is correct to dictate the lives of others and just because others have it worse, they must be thankful and not complain.
Nope, we will haunt you.

>>2498532
>tlak to people from those countries
I have friends and colleagues from Sudan and Ethiopia
I even spoke to a guy who was injured fighting in South Sudan once
None of them hold your retarded positions

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>>2498515
I didn't but thanks for pointing them out, I was in crash out mode earlier. Too many things happening right now IRL for internet shit man.

Trump continues to invade various cities and I think this needs to be more propagandized, more news on that would be good. Especially if they come from on the ground people. Ie you're in portland, give us the sitrep.

Less political stuff too, helps grow the audience and get more working class people into the heavier political content.

>>2498534
haunt me? it's better if you just went to people who gave a shit
>>2498535
and they deserve consideration far more than your people do

>>2498532
<when X speaks
>X should shut up because Y has it worse
<when Y speaks
>Y should shut up because Z has it worse
<when Z speaks
>Z should shut up because … etc etc etc

Everyone can see the race-to-the-bottom divide-and-conquer bullshit.

>>2498540
you clearly give a lot of shit since you've been replying for a long time now

>>2498543
well I'm not a mod, so all I can do is fight him (which I have been)

>>2498540
what have you done for Ethiopia and Somalia?
btw, as >>2498509 points out, the US army stationed in Chagos participated in the Ethipian-Somalian war of 2006. So yeah, as >>2498514 said, it's all connected

>>2498543
and i'd do it again, and again, and again

>>2498536
you had to hop on the tor node to post snobby ruling class insult. My mother could read, but the fact that you look down on people who can't says a lot.

>>2498546
now i care 5% instead of 0%, thank you

>>2498511
That's a nice leaflet, I've seen plenty like these, its too bad your mother didn't know how to read.

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so I guess we're letting a /pol/ shitposter dictate discussion instead of talking about the new directive or boots on the ground in portland? Guess I'll see you all on Telegram when they shut this place down for being "extremist"

>>2498549
>i view giving a shit in the most transactional way possible
we know

>>2498549
what have you done for Ethiopia and Somalia?
You, who decides which victims of imperialism is most deserving of being talked about..

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>>2498552
Or you know, talking about this:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/

>Section 1. Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence. Heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence in the United States have dramatically increased in recent years. Even in the aftermath of the horrifying assassination of Charlie Kirk, some individuals who adhered to the alleged shooter’s ideology embraced and cheered this evil murder while actively encouraging more political violence. This was preceded by the 2024 assassination of a senior healthcare executive and the 2022 assassination attempt against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Two separate assassination attempts against my own life in less than 3 months took place during the 2024 Presidential election cycle. Riots in Los Angeles and Portland reflect a more than 1,000 percent increase in attacks on U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers since January 21, 2025, compared to the same period last year. Just yesterday, a shooting targeting an ICE facility in Dallas resulted in multiple casualties. Separate anti-police and “criminal justice” riots have left many people dead and injured and inflicted over $2 billion in property damage nationwide.

>This political violence is not a series of isolated incidents and does not emerge organically. Instead, it is a culmination of sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society. A new law enforcement strategy that investigates all participants in these criminal and terroristic conspiracies — including the organized structures, networks, entities, organizations, funding sources, and predicate actions behind them — is required.
>These campaigns often begin by isolating and dehumanizing specific targets to justify murder or other violent action against them. They do so through a variety of fora, including anonymous chat forums, in-person meetings, social media, and even educational institutions. These campaigns then escalate to organized doxing, where the private or identifying information of their targets (such as home addresses, phone numbers, or other personal information) is exposed to the public with the explicit intent of encouraging others to harass, intimidate, or violently assault them. As in the case of several ICE agents in Los Angeles being doxed, the goal of these campaigns can be to obstruct the operations of the Federal Government as well as aid and abet criminal activity the Federal Government is lawfully pursuing. These campaigns are coordinated and perpetrated by actors who have developed a comprehensive strategy to achieve specific policy goals through radicalization and violent intimidation.
>There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.” These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution. This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties. Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality. As described in the Order of September 22, 2025 (Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization), the groups and entities that perpetuate this extremism have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations. For example, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin engraved the bullets used in the murder with so-called “anti-fascist” rhetoric.
>The United States requires a national strategy to investigate and disrupt networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence so that law enforcement can intervene in criminal conspiracies before they result in violent political acts. Through this comprehensive strategy, law enforcement will disband and uproot networks, entities, and organizations that promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society.

>>2498557
that's what I meant by directive, I wasn't sure what to call it because it isn't an EO.

>>2498554
he aint done shit

>>2498341
i bet this anon would post this image in response to someone talking about the genocide in palestine lol. just a deeply unserious individual

>>2498570
>i bet this anon would post this image in response to someone talking about the genocide in palestine lol. just a deeply unserious individual
How's the weather in Chagos.

Just posting to finally bumplock this old thread.


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