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>>2495617Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2497035Brazilian Sandi anon won
he is no longer here but he left a board full of Sandis behind
>>2497032Ever since Bolsonaro rock ACKed, Sandi anon stopped posting
curious
>>2497035>do any good jews exist to you?Max Blumenthal.
>"Israel has taken over Trump and so any pro-Trump content is being managed by Netanyahu's cutouts. Ellison, Barry Weiss, CBS just had a, a, ombudsman installed who's a veteran Israel lobbyist named David Weissman from the Hudson Institute. So pro-Trump is basically Israeli controlled and that's what this is about.
>"And they're not going to stop there. They're basically trying to retrench control because they have lost the PR battle, they've lost the political battle after October 7, even though they believe that they've won the military battle. But I think, they may have won a Pyrrhic victory there.
>"Those lines you read were corroborated days after I reported them by Vice President J.D. vance who was seated in Charlie Kirk's chair hosting his show, after his death. He said that Charlie Kirk did go to the White House and lobbied against striking Iran. He didn't have the details I had on Trump, but he probably was there but didn't want to embarrass Trump. But of course Trump was afraid. Of course Trump is completely controlled and cowed and cucked by Netanyahu. That's why Netanyahu, according to Tucker Carlson, someone who's much more connected than I am to Trump world, said that Netanyahu is running around the region bragging about controlling Donald Trump.
>"I mean Netanyahu said this openly about the U.S. before, or at least he said it in private and the video was leaked. In 2001 he was bragging to a small group of settlers on in a sort of hid and he didn't. I don't think he knew he was being filmed. He said the U.S. Is a thing you can move easily. So this is textbook Netanyahu.
>"How does he control Washington through AIPAC? They control the Congress. They control media through assets cutouts like Larry Ellison. They're controlling Trump through Miriam Adelson. They're controlling Marco Rubio through Paul Singer, his largest donor, who is a just a neocon representing Israel. Ike Perlmutter, longtime donor to TPUSA, also big donor to Trump. He's another pro-Netanyahu donor, Ron Lauder. There are so many of them.
>"Actually, if you're watching this now, you can look up Netanyahu's millionaire and billionaire list, and you can find online a handwritten list of millionaires and billionaires inside the United States that Netanyahu uses personally. He, he personally wrote this list up to exert control over U.S. Politicians." >>2497044and a 5th guy meta-complaining
(and a 6th guy meta-meta-complaining….)
>>2497000>>2497034>>2497019>>2497017>>2496987>>2496998bullshit. the bullet would have come in through the back, in this theoretical thesis, the exit wound (now on the front), wouldn't look as clean as is seen. when a bullet with enough energy to completely pierce through a body leaves two holes, one exit and one entrance, always the entrance is clean, the exit is super messy.
0 knowledge in forensics.
>>2497058>Ericawhat could possibly know that twat beside grifting average burgers.
>>2497062he manifested the bullet. you an clearly see him tired of talking about gang violence for the 1000th time.
>>2497120her jail break was fucking legendary:
>In early 1979, "the Family", a group of BLA members, began to plan Shakur's escape from prison. They financed this by stealing $105,000 from a Bamberger's store in Paramus, New Jersey. On November 2, 1979, Shakur escaped the Clinton Correctional Facility for Women in New Jersey when three members of the Black Liberation Army visiting her drew concealed .45-caliber pistols and a stick of dynamite, seized two correction officers as hostages, commandeered a van and (with the assistance of members of the May 19 Communist Organization) made their escape. No one was injured during the prison break, including the officers held as hostages who were left in a parking lot. According to later court testimony, Shakur lived in Pittsburgh until August 1980, when she flew to the Bahamas. Mutulu Shakur, Silvia Baraldini, Sekou Odinga, and Marilyn Buck were charged with assisting in her escape; Ronald Boyd Hill was also held on charges related to the escape. In part for his role in the event, Mutulu was named on July 23, 1982, as the 380th addition to the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list, where he remained for the next four years until his capture in 1986. State correction officials disclosed in November 1979 that they had not run identity checks on Shakur's visitors and that the three men and one woman who assisted in her escape had presented false identification to enter the prison's visitor room, before which they were not searched. Mutulu Shakur and Marilyn Buck were convicted in 1988 of several robberies as well as the prison escape. >>2497184Hmmm I see, great purge of 1937 first, then 1944 mass culling of Nazoids.
Kill Prigozhin first, then Zelensky.
Thank you for your clear response so that my Z-brain understands.
>>2497183Imageboards are "for adults" but let's be real, you enjoy them the most when you're a teenager and they still have that forbidden fruit appeal
t. oldfag who started way too young in the 00s
>>2497207on one hand imageboards are based for being less astorturfed and having more free speech, and like you said, being less egocentric, revolving around user profiles, upvotes, and other forms of approval-seeking.
On the other hand they're a user-unfriendly confused mess where it is very easy to derail and troll any discussion, and the word of the biggest idiot is just as good as the word of the most well informed person, because lurkers cannot approve/diapprove of a post with a thumbs up/down, but must stop being lurkers to do so.
>>2497243Israel doesn't want to "annex" the west bank. Because functionally, all of Palestine is already Israeli occupation, and the PA is just a thin veneer of bureaucracy over it.
For starters, they don't want to give the residents full Israeli citizenship because Zionists very much value keeping a Jewish majority.
Also, as it is right now, Israel can benefit from the cheap extra-ecxploited labor of Palestinians under apartheid, but is neither dependent on them, nor need to pay their bills. Compradors and other US satellites pay the PA bills through donations. Which would otherwise need to be paid by Zionazia, a concept utterly unacceptable to the average Pissraeli. And, of course this would greatly undermine Israel's power under apartheid, occupation or not, because then cutting the travel permits or denying employment ot Palestinians means paying higher subsidies themselves.
>>2497243Israel just bombed Qatar, a great cocksucker of America.
Saudi Arabia, another great cocksucker of America, just signed a mutual defence treaty with Pakistan (yes, that too a great cocksucker of America).
Methinks Trumps understands that after the hit on Qatar, cocksuckers of America understood that America does not give a shit if Israel attacks them, and thus they are moving to secure their defences independently of America. So the Don is giving an air of toughness of Israel, to sort of re-increase his stocks among the cocksuckers in the Middle East.
>>2497254to elaborate on what I said here:
>>2497261It would be possible to look at local news from each state, using an aggregator like this one:
https://www.50states.com/ce/and just comment on that news from a revolutionary communist perspective of building dual power at the local level, and then disseminating that to activists who are embedded in those respective scenes
>>2497268True. To annex the West Bank is just pain in the ass. Millions of Arab Muslims to be given citizenship, Right to vote etc. Ofcourse in that case, Likud doesn't win another election ever.
The PA is already policing the Palestinians and preventing any armed resistance movement there. The Israeli settlers already move into the West Bank and already occupy and use land they like.
So this situation is perfect, they got Arab lands without the pesky Arab humans.
>>2497273it will rain
again and again
Cocksucking compradors ever since the days of Lawrence of Arabia. All this talk of western degeneracy when they have been loyal cocksuckers of western empires since the early 1900s. They were also anti-soviet as fuck. Fuck them.
>>2497215>and the word of the biggest idiot is just as good as the word of the most well informed person, I mean, that's a good thing. I like that there's no option to order the posts except chronologically, so everyone gets a fair chance to be seen. On places like twitter, when you drop a comment, nobody is likely to even see it unless you have followers and etc.
I think the worst part is that means that "effort posts" are often lost in the fray. Also you may drop a post everyone likes, but nobody even responds to, because it's kind of dumb just dropping a "this." I've had posts I got no response to, but later ended up seeing in screencaps(in a positive way) much later, but at the time 0 feedback and I wouldn't have known if I didn't perchance see it weeks/months later.
>>2497268the revisionist zionists, and the likud clique have long believed jordan is already a palestinian state which they can boot the palestinians of the west bank across the river into and annexe so called judea and samaria
its called the 'jordanian option'
i believe there was even whispers of this with kushner before oct 7 ? and the possibility of a coup agaisnt the king of jordan?
they dont need palestinians as cheap labour any longer. they can import workers on contract from asia.
>>2497292yes. mostly lower caste men from india who get their visas ripped up upon arrival and essentially enslaved.
>>2497284>Nah, they're more imitating gulf kingdoms. They are becoming true MENAoids.but Americans do this with LatAm men
>>2497300>covering all above with a basket, and regarding only what is below Ben Franklin put baskets on old hags heads and fucked their plump asses like a madman
based.
>>2497346he knows Cucktin doesn't have the balls
the Ayatollah will raise a million red, purple, black flags before throwing a single (one, 1) rock on an American ship
Xi literally does nothing
Kim doesn't give a fuck about honkoid generals
so nothing to worry about
>>2497162what is this in the tent above his head
you can see it for 3 frames
>>2497419Trump is a lazy fascist.
He’s too sluggish and too much of an aging dotard to be effective. All his Project 2025 Curtis Yarvin influenced cabinet are trying to coax him into the role but bro just wants to golf.
>>2497428That blob cartoon you keep posting scares me
Theres something off about it
>>2497595His Inherent Vice adaptation was pretty faitlhful but he's kind of all over the place with adaptations. some of his adaptations are very loose (there will be blood is so loose as to almost be nothing like
Oil!) while inherent vice is about as beat for beat as it can get within the limitations of having to be shorter than a novel
>>2497307also chummed up with Bannon and Thiel
>>2497601the gallons of blood may affect the weighing tho
>>2497598Are you saying you prefer the current state of things? Because dealing with moderates is still preferable to nazis imo, especially when you have to live under their rule. Things were boring, the biggest "scandal" of the Obama years was PRISM and drone striking brown children. Yet now those are just accepted by the public with no criticism or scandal to speak of. Bombing brown children and using the intelligence deep state to harass Americans is normal.
Obama was a garbage president, but living under the rule of "moderates" at least meant trans people weren't being designated a terrorist group. Sure, the current era has more revolutionary potential but that comes from the fact more Americans are feeling the political instability and lack of safety. I guess if you're not American that's seen as a win.
tbh I'm often conflicted on where I stand in the CPUSSY vs Iron Felix spectrum, as I understand the need to accelerate the deteriorating conditions for Americans to force them to revolt; but at the same time this comes with a lot of human suffering in the short term that we have to live through and watch our loved ones go through. You can't claim to have a heart and say you prefer living under Trump than Obama, seeing how many of your neighbors are being terrorized on the daily by the Trump admin. If you're a third worldist not living in the US this is the best possible outcome though I suppose, since conditions have only gotten better in the third world over the last 20 years and Trumps incompetence just accelerates that. He can't even do imperialism correctly.
>>2497645give it a year and i guarantee you he will go to the 30 percent range
(because thats when the economic recession will happen)
>>2497343What they call "annex" is just putting more of Palestinian land under formal military occupation rather than *wink wink* "independent" ghettos under the PA still subject to Israel's jurisdiction. Or, in the case of current propaganda, map-painting in ways that suggest the Palestinians have been previously removed to provide an easy fantasy strawman for liberal Zionists to protest, and therefore protect the real plans which are already in motion.
There is a slight-of-hand around the word "annexation" being played right now. To promote the idea that there was, before now a hard division and autonomy for Palestinians rather than the archipelago of ghettos.It just hasn't been reported on, because it is inconvenient to the "Israel defending itself" narrative that most of the people currently denouncing Netanyahu earnestly followed, up to a couple months back. But it has gone on, in parallel to razing Gaza.
With eyes on Gaza, Israel has quietly annexed the West Bank
https://thebaffler.com/latest/the-annexation-of-the-west-bank-is-complete-nathaniel The "Last Supper" was a July 21, 1993 dinner at The Pentagon hosted by then-U.S. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin and Deputy Secretary of Defense William Perry to discuss defense industry consolidation in the United States. The name was bestowed by Norm Augustine, then the head of Martin Marietta and an attendee at the dinner. The recent end of the Cold War had raised calls for a peace dividend and Perry warned the defense industry that it would need to consolidate to survive coming budget cuts. The number of prime defense contractors in the U.S. would decline from 51 to five in the following years, consolidating the industry into only a few major companies.
Hegseth’s surprise gathering of top military brass is to deliver speech on ‘warrior ethos,’ sources say https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/26/politics/hegseth-generals-meeting-warrior-ethos> Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s surprise gathering of hundreds of generals and admirals in Virginia next week is being called so he can describe the administration’s reinvention of the Department of Defense as the “Department of War” and outline new standards for military personnel, according to half a dozen people familiar with the planning.
>“It’s meant to be a show of force of what the new military now looks like under the president,” a White House official told CNN.
>The meeting is expected to resemble “a pep rally” where Hegseth will underscore the importance of the “warrior ethos” and outline a new vision for the US military, said three of the sources. He is expected to discuss new readiness, fitness and grooming standards the officers are expected to adhere to and enforce.
>“It’s about getting the horses into the stable and whipping them into shape,” said a defense official familiar with the planning. “And the guys with the stars on their shoulders make for a better audience from an optics standpoint. This is a showcase for Hegseth to tell them: get on board, or potentially have your career shortened.” >…>>2497722>Nah, the right in America are moving away from nationalism and toward libertarian populism.Libertarianism died with the tea party bro settle down
>The right in America do not want a powerful state government dominating every aspect of their liveslmao
>>2497215>on one hand imageboards are based for being less astorturfed and having more free speechIt's actually easier to astroturf imageboards - just have a bunch of bots force meme your position and drive others out until it becomes the consensus. How do you think Nazis took over 4chan?
>and like you said, being less egocentric, revolving around user profiles, upvotes, and other forms of approval-seeking.There's plenty of things like that on imageboards as well.
>>2497384The American trailer makes this look really like a very generic action movie, to the point that I almost didn't realize it was directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, but the UK trailer made it look more "indie"
Marketing, eh?
>>2497384Just got out of watching it, i liked it.
"I am a christmas adventurer!!!"
>>2497790Can’t say I’ve seen much about the CPA, are they part of solidnet? They may be a fraternal party of ours.
I’m sure a lot of them are lovely though!
>>2497787The Communist Party line is to voot for moderate side of fascist imperialist monopolist? Sounds fascist
>help socialists abroad from greater aggression and workers at home from brutal repression Interesting. please explain how voting democrat has helped Communists.
>>2497032These fucking worthless retards are ruining everything valuable.
They are always talking about fucking Palestine.
They should all just be put in jail for wasting for consistently wasting everybody's time.
I warned everybody from the beginning to focus on constructive things, then this subgroup comes into every group they can find just to talk about Palestine.
The only course of action is to jail them indefinitely, if we send them to Palestine they run away immediately.
That is because they are ok with good people dying, but not themselves.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2497757it was fucking shit. More or less was a generic action movie, with endless pastisches of other movies.
Wasn't good. Apart from anything else it couldn't decide what it wanted to be in style, what it wanted to pay reference to.
>>2497787It's wild that these obviously reasonable and pragmatic, normal and diplomatic actionable steps are denounced by the contemporary "left" (even self proclaimed communists).
Why have we become so moralizing and black and white thinking? Have we always been this way? Or is this the result of some cointelpro shit?
>>2498025Stay mad, lib.
>>2498031Westerner communist that understands communism much better than many ITT, living in South America.
>>2498031>who the fuck even is this guySnark Cuckerberg on tiktok
>and why do people keep posting him hereBecause his rhetoric resembles half of leftypol: He's sort of a third worldist lolcow: A nonbinary pansexual australian man who moved to colombia and calls himself a communist but his entire ideology is just "Americans of all classes are treatlerites who must suffer for their original sin of being born in the imperial core" even though he basically comes from Bizarro America
>>2498037This is a fair point. I think may be the ultimate reason why collaboration has been near impossible because this genocide has been happening for 80 years.
But I still find there's a general problem with black and white thinking in the western "left" in general.
I saw another communist with great politics get eaten alive once just for serving on a jury and convicting and sending a rapist psychopath
to prison. Because ACAB or something.
>>2498040So are you saying "class collaborationism" is bad? Or is it pragmatic? Cuz you know, when you go to work to make money to feed yourself and your family, that is class collaborationism too. When you go to work and your coworker who has children is also a racist asshole, you have to get through the day and bite your tongue because you both have people who depend on you etc. That's bipartisonism.
Lotta "-isms" we leftists seem to use as cudgels, we say them with spittle flying, without really explaining or thinking about how they might be used productively or whatever.
Very BPD to think so black and white, as we "leftists" seem to do in the west. To absolutely no avail.
>>2498071>>2498077You say that but you don't… define? Communism yourself??
Please define it. Go ahead. I think we western leftists use that word without even agreeing on what it means in the first place.
So instead of being a snarky little shit, why don't you define it?
>>2498082>>2498081I've been on this board for like 5 years homeslice. I just space like a dick because I hardly post.
I'm working on it, you bitch. Eat shit.
>>2498073NTA
1161 not going to jail not amerikkkan lmao
>>2498077>So are you saying "class collaborationism" is bad? Its the backbone of fascism, so go ahead and do what you want before the ICP mobilize and shoot you in the back of the head for being a petty bourgeoisie.
>Cuz you know, when you go to work to make money to feed yourself and your family, that is class collaborationism too.If your mother is Bill Gates maybe.
>>2498089Brace on a recent TA ep talked about Antifa, how he doesn't identify them and thinks they're ineffectual, and also a story about punching an antifa guy because the antifa guy was shoving an old lady calling her racist or something.
Antifa really are a type of (semi well-intentioned but ultimately flawed) Lumpen. Hate to say it but it's true ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>2498104Sorry I didn't mean to imply I agreed with the "libs killing other libs" comment because that is actually retarded and atrocious.
It just irks me when I hear the word communism thrown around all the time, especially as an in-group identifier without actually defining it in a positivist sense. We seem to use it to just say "not republican, democrat, socdem, nor demsoc" but that's a purely negative thing.
And also, the communist manifesto, while it's alright, I don't think really covers marx's real opinion on strategy overall, and honestly comes across as a pamphlet everyone else coerced him to write because they needed a manifesto so he was just like "ok whatever here" almost sarcastically. But that's just my take.
>>2498059>if everyone consumed the way even poor Americans do?Why turn it into this individualist thing where if Americans just chose as individuals to make le more environmental choices as consumers, all the bad stuff would stop happening?
I've said this before but what exactly are you supposed to do when everything, including subsistence, is sold to you in the most unsustainable packaging possible? The billionaires at the petroleum companies spent 50 years normalizing putting plastic in, on, and around everything. American standard of living will continue to decline with the empire, but eventually in a few decades, 1.5 billion Chinese will consume the way Americans consume now. You have to change the system at a global level, not just tsk tsk people for not spending all day researching the most le sustainable alternative.
I garden and compost and eat mostly vegetables btw, and I don't order stuff online, even though some of the people I live with do, but this option of "just live more frugally like a peasant lol" isn't available for everyone, like people living in apartments in the city. in the city you get sucked into the cash nexus and assuming you don't have time to cook, you eat out, and when eating out, you often find yourself being served on a paper plate with plastic fork and knife, or in a styrofoam container, with a plastic cup.
>>2498113Think I might start Namefagging for a bit.
We'll try this out. Now dawns the age of the Normal Marxist, who is a mature adult with a real job (I work in a mostly hispanic employed factory for $22/hr)
i am genuinely losing my hope, the fact that half a million would be killed and exterminated by israel in the worst possible and most gruesome ways, while aided by NATO munition, NATO logistical support, NATO trade, and euro-american diplomatic support half a decade, and now those countries also responsible for funding ukronazis and bandeirites, as also collectively fucking eastern europe also are washing their hands, crying crocodile tears while it hasnt been a fucking year they tried to starve the UNRWA, now they "recognizing" the collaborators from PA as a way to save face.
Meanwhile all those politicking, and collaboration done by western ""democracies"", almost a million is dead, a entire city in rubble, and NOTHING DONE outside useless diplomatic sanctions or soft power action.
I genuinely lost (a long time ago) all my hope on a change done by the collective west, but now, at this point i just want russian nukes to fly and end this disgrace collectively.
Americans and Euroaches are collectively funding a genocide while posing as a "moral example", and i legit feel powerless to change the dynamics of global geopolitics as a fucking brazillian
>>2498105This view on your party is no different than religion.
>>2498110No, you redditors did not organize shit. A bunch of trade unions organized it along with spontaneous wildcat strikers. There was no Leninist, centralized party conducting it according to the holy scripture of the reddit intellectuals.
You know you can't dispute this because you didn't even refute his point. You just linked to that site and implied they're in charge of it, which they're not.
>>2498114Right. The only way to live "sustainably" or "ethically" in an urban center is to mostly subsist on other peoples waste (dumpster diving) and steal everything else, which is a high-risk way to live depending on where you are with regard to policing. I'd imagine that this way of living will get more difficult in the US and is probably much more difficult in China than it is here considering the level of active vs passive surveillance that the average person is subject to, but I wouldn't actually know, and China's surveillance infrastructure isn't any more totalizing than the US's when you actually draw enough attention from the feds for them to pay attention to you.
The longer I live as this flavor of lumpen, the more convinced I am that we comprise a much bigger portion of the urban population than the Information Machine makes anyone want to realize. Part of the practical function of Social Power's utter dehumanization of the criminal and the junkie is to make "regular people" unaware of how many people live on the fringes. Hitting post before I lose the plot even harder.
>>2498139>This view on your party is no different than religion.Infantile. One day you'll say "Why is everyone dead, why didn't we just do what Amadeo Bordiga said?"
>You just linked to that site and implied they're in charge of it, which they're not.ICP militants work within CSAN read the party newspaper.
https://www.international-communist-party.org/English/TheCPart/TCP_057.htm >>2498192She's a grade school teacher at a church. She likes John Brown. She said Jesus is Palestinian. The church she teaches for also runs the homeless shelters. She will never come back to the spot because Mr. r/atheism scared her off.
"I don't want to be reminded of these Christians being all around me" they say. "You're a communist, you hate religion too!" They say.
But that person won't come back, that ally lost dude to what? You can't win with this mindset.
>>2498219that's what pisses me off about him
He talks so arrogantly all the time and then he comes and begs because his rent is due.
He is like rich spoiled brats who role-play as underground counter culture try-hard wannabes
He also just lands on a thread, posts the most random shit, and expects us to just understand wtf is going on.
>>2498225give me the title or the link please
I wanna convince myself that my anti-Nazi sixth sense was right from Day 1 when I just sensed that HHoudini is trouble.
>>2497046>Implying they didn't already have control>>2497054I thought everyone knew the exit wound was from the front? At least until I saw commentary that another narrative was sold as the official story, but I don't pay too much attention to the internet.
Now if a shot of the claimed caliber came from the front, most of his neck would've been gone, what was left of his head would go to the right and the inertia of impact would throw his body back. He wasn't wearing anything that could be misconstrued as the splatter visible from the back before the exit from the front. His spinal column collapsed the same way as deer I've harvested; they drop in place, the entry splatter of blood and fur is visible and good cuts of meat (and bone) blowout in all directions from the exit. A heart shot is ideal to not waste meat, but if it's gut shot the deer can run til it bleeds out. If they ran into thicket, I had to track it by blood, relying on foraging ants to how me the way. So I've hit the spine out of laziness. The point is, I took for granted every hunter knew this. The human neck doesn't have as much mass/ resistance as big game, but I can't see the hit being done with a .30-06 without making more of a mess.
>>2498184>If I didn't know any better I'd begin to think that some of you didn't actually care about communism at all except as a rhetorical device to make yourself look smart and above it all.That is a very accurate assessment of half the people on here and online communists in general, and honestly it's becoming a bigger problem as conditions deteriorate. To me that says either:
A. More people are identifying as communist or socialists to appear intellectually and/ morally superior.
Or…
B. There was already a ton of people like this, and the declining conditions are exposing these people for who they really are.
Either way it's pretty alarming.
>>2498271An anonymous message board free from attention whores.
Jesus Christ, the whole point of this format is so we can discuss subjects other than the personality of the users.
>>2498287>Way I see it Leninist, I only see failure. A lot of failure. Failure to develop a proper workers party. Failure to keep a presence into the modern day. Failure to notice the inherent corruptible aspects of the top-down approach the vanguard party system utilizes.This, the vanguard party and the undemocratic paradigms created by China and Russia really do suck. People say Social Democracy is class collaborationist, but the vanguard party system is the ultimate form. I remember someone posted some, general plan, whatever they call it in China. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They're like, the class struggle is over, because the vanguard party is in power, but then it kind of acknowledges there are still classes and still bourgeois.
Vanguard party is the ultimate "back to brunch" for the class struggle. It makes the fate of the country completely luck of the draw like a feudal kingdom. Maybe sometimes you get a bad king and there is nothing you can do about it. Look at how people talk about the fall of the Soviet Union. It wasn't the people's fault, it wasn't the systems fault, it was just the fault of a handful of saboteurs and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The USSR got a bad roll, and that was the end of it. Fucking stupid colossal failure for leftism. Until communists accept it, and learn something from it, this will never go anywhere. But most so-called communists are basically just emotional driven fascists. They'd rather just wallow in "Lost Cause Ideology" like the other fascists and they will have just as much luck turning back the arrow of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy>Lost Cause advocates try to rationalize the Confederate military defeat with the assertion that the South had not actually been defeated; rather, it had been unfairly overcome by the massive manpower and resources of the deceitful Yankees.Sound familiar? Kek.
And I would of won too! If it wasn't for you meddling deceitful Yankees!
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-companies-involution-united-states-avoid-cutthroat-competition-price-war-2025-9Communist China wants to take steps to not crash the imperialist economy for some reason. I disagree with this because i want Communist commodities dumped on imperialist market so i can get cheaper hamburger. But china wants to make my hamburger more expensive by not dumping. If tea sells in China for one yuan, why must Communist China condemn us to expensive foods? Please, xi. dump your Communist commodities upon us and spread peace and prosperity to us.
>>2498315Xi is doing an excellent job. Within Communist China, all is well. Tea sells for 1 yuan. But why wont they export the Communist commodities to help us poor americans
>>2498038we are two people pointing out that you can screech all you want about how scawy is the repwetwiwe twopic of Palestine, you little baby screeching lib, we are going to remind you, hammer you down, and choke you until the end of you days and lives for the ineptitude of your actions that didn't prevent the genocides of the peoples of the world.
someone got mad and says:
>They are always talking about fucking Palestine.And for you was more important to question who these people are than acknowledging that we are not pulling out and back from the topic just because your dopamine receptors need another topic to move on from the genocide.
be mad, be mad all you want, take a glass of water swallow it, and grin and bear it. I am angrier at seeing the countless of shredded babies torn by bombs made in the U.S. than you can possibly be for listening again and again about the babies being torn apart on a daily basis.
>>2498346it seems you do not fucking understand
they are in very real risk of DYING
>>2498349you want them to have and raise the kid
just say it
>>2498360I meant 'encourage', not 'allow'
>>2498361yeah, and lets encourage it
>>2498338why would you have to subject yourself to trolls to discuss politics? do you do the same with math or literature? it isn't fragility to not wage a constant psychological warfare against yourself for no particular reason or gain ("thick skin" doesn't exist)
the problem here is that unlike chuds, left-wingers actually want to engage in good faith discussions about topics. now, that poster is an idiot so I'm glad he's out, but this site has become completely sterile and even boring because of under-moderation. the mods know this, it was their long term objective, that's why they removed the little accountability that still existed (censoring the logs, for example)
>>2498423I am not comparing or equating the two. But you guys are defending it because it is the US army occupying the island, so you do not have ZOG excuse. You like having a base in the Indian Ocean to bully Iran.
>theyre not living in refugee campsThey were dumped in ghettos. Not refugee camps, but not great treeatment.
And above all all, ‘pretty good treatment’? So displacing a population, killing their pets destroying their homes etc is all fine as long as one is not bombarding them? At least go to the very end and give them UK or US citizenship, so they can atleast work in the imperial core and make money. But most of they are not even recognised as UK or US citizens.
>>2498427You are confusing chagosposter and Sandi
Everyone you disagree with is not the same person
>>2498436Always
Goon
Politely
>>2498444What is a cracker but a state of mind?
Anyway we should use this for the next general image
>>2498444The ambassador is a latino
He was happy that he was at last considered white
>>2498448Netflix and TikTok did this
And another one
>>2498467I thought Portland was retired crackkker territory
but since Trump wants to invade, I guess I was wrong
>>2498474>why should I carebecause it results from actions of the US army
no one is asking you to cry about chagossians, we are asking you to oppose your fascist army
>>2498475which you can do with a thousand other displaced peoples
>>2498476>supposed tono i'm not, and no one works off this logic, your people are so irrelevant the only way people talked about them is through you forcing people to, that's how "oppressed" you are
>>2498517>no, it's because they live far better than many a victim of american atrocitieswhat a race to the fucking bottom this is
again. your entire argument, laid out over all your posts is ridiculous:
>i can't care about more than 1 thing at once>asking me to care about anything is asking me to care about that thing more than anything else>yeah it's bad but at least you're not on fire and getting rolled in glass>being an asshole to people is how you make them shut up "tire them out"* about the political issues they care about >>2498514earlier this year, when Iran and Israel were bombing each other and there was a risk of US getting into the shitshow, the B52 and B2 bombers of Chagos were on high alert to go bomb Iran. Even though there are military bases in the Gulf, USA prefers the bombers from Chagos to do the bombing because
(i) an attack from Qatar or Saudi will be met with retaliation on Qatari or Saudi soil, which the latter will not agree to.
(ii) Iran can easily attack Qatar and Saudi but Chagos is too far out.
The other anon is trying hard to paint Chagos as this smol bean military base with no relevance. In reality, it is one of the most important bases outside of Europe.
>>2498524I think he is a glowie who served in the US airforce or navy in the past and he was stationed in Chagos. So seeing the Chagos issue brought up makes him lose composure.
There are many US servicemen who love chagos as its water is crystal clear and since American military men are the only humans there, they get this pristine untouched tropical beach all of themselves, without the crowd and pollution and what not
>>2498527not gonna shut up just because others have it worse than I do
using that logic, americans and europeans should never bitch about anything, they should never oppose neoliberalism etc, since they live better lives than the rest of the world.
And when are you moving to Ethiopia or Sudan to help the locals there? It seems like you are most concerned about these countries, to the point where any other country's problem makes you lose your shit.
>>2498532the fact that other countries have it worse does not mean we have been dealt a 'fair fate'.
You are imperialist through and through, you believe it is correct to dictate the lives of others and just because others have it worse, they must be thankful and not complain.
Nope, we will haunt you.
>>2498532>tlak to people from those countriesI have friends and colleagues from Sudan and Ethiopia
I even spoke to a guy who was injured fighting in South Sudan once
None of them hold your retarded positions
>>2498515I didn't but thanks for pointing them out, I was in crash out mode earlier. Too many things happening right now IRL for internet shit man.
Trump continues to invade various cities and I think this needs to be more propagandized, more news on that would be good. Especially if they come from on the ground people. Ie you're in portland, give us the sitrep.
Less political stuff too, helps grow the audience and get more working class people into the heavier political content.
>>2498534haunt me? it's better if you just went to people who gave a shit
>>2498535and they deserve consideration far more than your people do
>>2498540what have you done for Ethiopia and Somalia?
btw, as
>>2498509 points out, the US army stationed in Chagos participated in the Ethipian-Somalian war of 2006. So yeah, as
>>2498514 said, it's all connected
>>2498549what have you done for Ethiopia and Somalia?
You, who decides which victims of imperialism is most deserving of being talked about..
>>2498552Or you know, talking about this:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/
>Section 1. Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence. Heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence in the United States have dramatically increased in recent years. Even in the aftermath of the horrifying assassination of Charlie Kirk, some individuals who adhered to the alleged shooter’s ideology embraced and cheered this evil murder while actively encouraging more political violence. This was preceded by the 2024 assassination of a senior healthcare executive and the 2022 assassination attempt against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Two separate assassination attempts against my own life in less than 3 months took place during the 2024 Presidential election cycle. Riots in Los Angeles and Portland reflect a more than 1,000 percent increase in attacks on U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers since January 21, 2025, compared to the same period last year. Just yesterday, a shooting targeting an ICE facility in Dallas resulted in multiple casualties. Separate anti-police and “criminal justice” riots have left many people dead and injured and inflicted over $2 billion in property damage nationwide.>This political violence is not a series of isolated incidents and does not emerge organically. Instead, it is a culmination of sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society. A new law enforcement strategy that investigates all participants in these criminal and terroristic conspiracies — including the organized structures, networks, entities, organizations, funding sources, and predicate actions behind them — is required. >These campaigns often begin by isolating and dehumanizing specific targets to justify murder or other violent action against them. They do so through a variety of fora, including anonymous chat forums, in-person meetings, social media, and even educational institutions. These campaigns then escalate to organized doxing, where the private or identifying information of their targets (such as home addresses, phone numbers, or other personal information) is exposed to the public with the explicit intent of encouraging others to harass, intimidate, or violently assault them. As in the case of several ICE agents in Los Angeles being doxed, the goal of these campaigns can be to obstruct the operations of the Federal Government as well as aid and abet criminal activity the Federal Government is lawfully pursuing. These campaigns are coordinated and perpetrated by actors who have developed a comprehensive strategy to achieve specific policy goals through radicalization and violent intimidation.>There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.” These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution. This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties. Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality. As described in the Order of September 22, 2025 (Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization), the groups and entities that perpetuate this extremism have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations. For example, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin engraved the bullets used in the murder with so-called “anti-fascist” rhetoric. >The United States requires a national strategy to investigate and disrupt networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence so that law enforcement can intervene in criminal conspiracies before they result in violent political acts. Through this comprehensive strategy, law enforcement will disband and uproot networks, entities, and organizations that promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society. Unique IPs: 124