Basically I've been kind of thinking that antisemitism isn't a big deal. At all. And there's no rise in it and it wouldn't matter if there was. I think it's functionally almost equivalent to so-called "anti-white racism." Jews were persecuted in the past, but time moves on, and they're not an eternal victim. They are now a race of oppressors, just like white people. And not all white people are bad either, but no one gives a fuck if I call a white guy a cracker, because it doesn't matter. There is no systemic anti-white racism, and there is no systemic antisemitism anymore either. Jews aren't being rejected from jobs or housing.
Basically, I don't think antisemitism or any purported "rise" in it should matter at all when discussing a genocide. It's gotta be one of the least impactful forms of racism when it comes to actual material consequences. It mainly exists online and not in real life. It is SLIGHTLY worse than "anti-white racism," as the odd Nazi will shoot up a synagogue every once in a while, but they'll also shoot up grocery stores or schools so, you know, there's that.
It's not like antisemitism is good, but it shouldn't be treated like it's a graver sin than anti-black racism or Islamophobia, which it currently is. You're ostracized from society if you're deemed an antisemite, whereas with other forms of racism you can get away with a lot more. It's a double-standard that makes zero sense with the current power dynamic.
100 posts and 17 image replies omitted.>>2501008Antisemitism is the hatred of Jews for no reason. Everyone who hates jews has good reason for their hatred. Ergo, antisemitism isn't real.
>>2501419why cant antisemites proudly call themselves antisemites? that is a psychological question i pose you to ask yourself.
>>2501426Most Jews aren't even Semitic.
>>2501431to "hate jews" means considering jews seaparate from yourself. if theyre not semitic or white, then what are they?
>>2501447>to "hate jews" means considering jews seaparate from yourself. if theyre not semitic or white, then what are they?Members of a religious cult following certain magic rites.
>>2501452if a jew converts to christianity do they become good?
>>2501280If your hatred is focused solely on Islam yes you are. And an hypocrite
>>2501458that wasnt the question but nice dodge, abdul.
>>2501463I'm latinx, nice of you showing your true colors here
Reported, zionazi
>>2501453>science disagreesYour graph says they're not semitic except for the Iraqi Jews.
>>2501468>Your graph says they're not semitic except for the Iraqi Jews.I mean Yemeni. Didn't realize there was a down triangle with outline and without.
>>2501465>if you oppose islam then you are a zionistthe left is fucked.
>>2501453lmao interpret your own graph
>>2501476Whatever you say, zio polyp
>>2500636BadEmpanada has exposed that the actual victims of modern hatred and antisemitic conspiracy theories are Qrabs, not Jews
>>2501468It shows them clustering near East Mediterranean and Levantine groups.
>>2501426Too much self respect to give themselves a a made up jew-babble title
No such thing as antisemitism in 2025
Anti-arabism and islamophobia however is real and genocidal, as seen by the jewish supremacist settler colony atrocities in Palestine
>>2501561BadEmpanada is spot on jewish victimhood status btw
you can always tell when the West is committing genocide against Muslims in the Middle East and pogroms against Muslims in the metropole because shitlib media starts squawking about how "the main problem in the West right now is the possibility of antisemitism rising again"
>>2501504NO such thing as an ancestral homeland.
>>2501504Aren't Ashkenazis originally from the steppe?
>>2501565https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews#Genetics>Most genetic studies of Ashkenazi Jews conclude that the male lines were from the Middle East.[159][160][161] >A 2000 study by Hammer and co-authors found that the Y-chromosome of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon among indigenous Europeans.[162] This suggests that Ashkenazim male ancestors are mostly from the Middle East. Ashkenazim had less than 0.5% male genetic admixture per generation over an estimated 80 generations, with "relatively minor contribution of European Y chromosomes to the Ashkenazim," and the total admixture estimate "very similar to Motulsky's average estimate of 12.5%". This supported the finding that "Diaspora Jews from Europe, Northwest Africa, and the Near East resemble each other more closely than they resemble their non-Jewish neighbors." "Past research found that 50%–80% of DNA from the Ashkenazi Y chromosome, which is used to trace the male lineage, originated in the Near East," Richards said. The population has subsequently spread out. >A 2001 study by Nebel and co-authors showed that Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews share overall Near Eastern paternal ancestries. In comparison with data available from other relevant populations in the region, Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent. The study also found Eu 19 (R1a) chromosomes had elevated frequency among Ashkenazi Jews (13%), and they are very frequent in Central and Eastern Europeans (54–60%). They hypothesized that the differences among Ashkenazim could reflect low-level gene flow from surrounding European populations or genetic drift during isolation.[163] A 2005 study by Nebel et al., found a similar level of 11.5% of male Ashkenazim belonging to R1a1a (M17+), the dominant Y-chromosome haplogroup in Central and Eastern Europeans.[164] However, a 2017 study, of Ashkenazi Levites where the proportion reaches 50%, found a "rich variation of haplogroup R1a outside of Europe which is phylogenetically separate from the typically European R1a branches", and concludes that the particular R1a-Y2619 sub-clade is evidence for a local origin, and that this validates the "Middle Eastern origin of the Ashkenazi Levite lineage" which had previously been concluded based on a few samples.[165] >A 2006 study by Behar and co-authors, of 1,000 units of haplogroup K (mtDNA), suggested that about 40% of today's Ashkenazim descend from just four women who were "likely from a Hebrew/Levantine mtDNA pool" originating in the Middle East in the 1st and 2nd centuries CE.[26] The rest of Ashkenazi mtDNA reportedly originated from about 150 women, most of whom were also likely of Middle Eastern origin.[26] Specifically, although haplogroup K is common throughout western Eurasia, its global distribution makes it very unlikely that "the four aforementioned founder lineages entered the Ashkenazi mtDNA pool via gene flow from a European host population". >A 2013 study of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA by a team led by Martin B. Richards tested all 16,600 DNA units of mtDNA, and found that the four main female Ashkenazi founders had descent lines that were established in Europe 10,000 to 20,000 years in the past[166] while most of the remaining minor founders also have a deep European ancestry. The study argued that the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages were not brought from the Near East or the Caucasus, but instead assimilated within Europe, primarily of Italian and Old French origins.[167] The study estimated that more than 80% of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to (mainly prehistoric Western) Europe, and only 8% from the Near East, while the origin of the remainder is undetermined.[168][166] According to the study this "point to a significant role for the conversion of women in the formation of Ashkenazi communities."[168][169][170][171][172] Karl Skorecki criticized the study, arguing that while it "re-opened the question of the maternal origins of Ashkenazi Jewry, the phylogenetic analysis in the manuscript does not 'settle' the question."[173] >A 2014 study by Fernández and co-authors found that Ashkenazi Jews display a frequency of haplogroup K in their maternal DNA, suggesting an ancient Near Eastern matrilineal origin, similar to the results of the Behar study in 2006. Fernández noted that this observation clearly contradicts the results of the 2013 study led by Richards that suggested a European source for 3 exclusively Ashkenazi K lineages.[27] >A 2025 study by Joseph Livni and Karl Skorecki examined mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in the Ashkenazi Jewish population and found that the maternal ancestry of most Ashkenazi Jews traces back to a small founding group of around 150 women.[30] The study introduced a method to distinguish between founder and absorbed mtDNA lineages, revealing that fewer than 15% of present-day Ashkenazi Jews carry absorbed mtDNA from outside populations. Absorbed lineages typically appeared as singletons, while founder lineages occurred multiple times. These findings contradict earlier theories suggesting a mixed origin, specifically, Near Eastern male and European female founders, and instead support a unified origin for both maternal and paternal lineages in the Near East. This conclusion is consistent with prior Y-chromosome evidence indicating a Near Eastern paternal origin.[30] >>2501688A distant paternal ancestry that other Mediterranean peoples such as Turks and Greeks also have
>>2501688>no we're special see i can spout technobabble for pages at a time! we are a special and unique people! the mitochondrial admixtures say so!!!! it's 1.5% levintine! that means we're different!this nonsense is so insufferable.
>>2501270Idiot.
You almost had the right point, but overcorrected to a ridiculous false extreme.
>>2500731No-one implied that.
But since you mentioned it:
Islamophobia is intertwined with racism. It's often used as a cover for racism, and we must recognize this.
But Islam, as with all Abrahamic religions, is deeply problematic and demands its followers perform harmful practices. The admirable features of Islam don't negate this. If someone equally discriminates against white Muslims, and there are plenty, then it's unlikely that it's being used as a cover for anti-black or anti-asian sentiment
>>2501776White Muslims are not targeted usually
And I agree all Abrahamic religions are problematic but acknowledging it doesn't mean we should support right-wing zionist arabophobic pogroms in the west
>>2501431would it sincerely matter to you if they were? many of you are getting bogged down in completely worthless questions like "are jews semites? are jews REALLY middle eastern genetically?" as if it matters if the answer is yes or no, you're either cowards (antisemites) or pedants (anti-antisemites)
>>2501646No they're originally a tribe of rejected Turks that were converted to Judaism by the Persians.
>>2501800Being an antisemite takes a lot of courage, you know that and you're coping.
>>2501975it takes so much courage that you cant even admit the holocaust happened.
>>2501481muhammad (piss be upon him) was a pedophile.
so was rabbi yesu (look up ammon hill).
both are in hell boiling in excrement as we speak.
You can be critical of the Israeli government without being an antisemite. Just because the ADL calls you an antisemite doesn't mean you necessarily are one.
The thing is, the situation is a lot bigger than just Israel, it's obvious there are much bigger players involved here. Focusing on Israel or the Jews misses the big picture, you should really be talking about the United States, the much bigger richer country that is obviously pulling the strings here. Jews don't control the world and never have. There's never been a Jewish empire. They've always been a smaller culture getting conquered by other much bigger cultures, from the pagan empires of the Bronze/Iron Age to the Muslim and Christian empires of the Medieval Age to the Muslim and Christian empires of WW1; now they finally have a country and they are nominally independent but really they are just a puppet state, first belonging to the British Empire, now to the US.
>>2500731>islamophobia is racismYes. Retard.
>>2501977No one ever went to prison for agreeing with the holocaust narrative.
>>2502037If the ADL calls me an antisemite I won't argue. I wear that badge with pride. I'm a free man and I can love or hate anyone I like for any reason I like.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) Eventually Iran is going to develop nuclear weapons. What happens to Israel then?
>>2502041>islam is a race🤔🙄
>>2502091islams are yakubian
>>2500636>There is no systemic anti-white racism, and there is no systemic antisemitism Compare the establishment reaction to the BLM protests and the pro-palestinian protests. The difference is stark and blatant. Jews replaced WASPs as the ruling class in America decades ago and they've been quite happy to divert anti elite sentiment into moronic racial grievance and "anti-whiteness" radlib nonsense. Simple as. I'm essentially a tankie but let's not delude ourselves here. White identity has been pathologized for better or worse. Jewish identity is vigorously upheld, celebrated and protected by the State at all costs - even above those of other nominally protected. Jewishness trumps other protected minority groups and "white" identity is verbotten. The fact some zionists are attempting an alliance with disaffected whites and a disavowal of "woke" after october 7th should fool noone.
>>2502127>15 White great great grandfathers,*White great great grandparents.
And that's their story, that the original group of Ashkenazi Jews were slaves and immigrants to Italy and they were a small group of men that interbred with the local women.
I guess it's debated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews#History>Other than their origins in ancient Israel, the question of how Ashkenazi Jews came to exist as a distinct community is unknown, and has given rise to several theories.
>As a proportion of the world Jewish population, Ashkenazim were estimated to be 3% in the 11th century, rising to 92% in 1930 near the population's peak.> As the large majority of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, their percentage dropped from an estimate of 92% of world Jewry in 1930[20] to nearly 80% of world Jewry today.But that's what they like to do to. Even though they're the solid of majority of all Jews in the world and certainly all the Jews with power, but they like to pretend they're the Jews on the other side of this graph:
>>2502127The Ashkenazis are right next to sicilians, and the Yemeni Jews are right next to bedouins, but we're supposed to believe that these are one Jewish "race."
No it's a fucking religion and a cult.
>>2502507And Abraham is from Iraq. So their whole story is that God gave the land to Abraham to conquer, but he didn't even manage to do that.
So he called dibs on it. Him and some of his descendants lived their. Then they left to Egypt because of a famine. Then they escaped slavery in Egypt and re-called dibs on the land, then God instructed them to genocide all the people who were indigenous to the area. Their whole claim basically rests on whether they successfully genocided the original native inhabitants so that they have the oldest claim to the land.
Leftypol biblical debates are the biggest trashcan fire of the whole internet. I want to kill myself.
Jesus is a communist jewish alien king pantrocrat and no amount of atheist/nazi/zionist pilpul will change that.
Jesus is based and REDpilled.
>>2501780>White muslims are not targeted usuallyWhat happened to the bosniaks in the 90s? American leftists are literally unable to see things outside of the white empire dynamics engendered by decades of radical studies which don't get me wrong, is of immense value in the US itself, but it does not apply everywhere. Sometimes in the second and third world people hate your religion because they hate your religion, because subalterns take religions and traditions seriously.
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