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I know you American folks like to freak out whenever someone calls you treatlers and insinuate that you are collaborators in your government's imperialism and world raping. But let's be honest, between us, it is true right? I know the Theory of Treatlerism is not glamorous… but it is correct, right?
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>>2506612
That would make blacks like more than a half of world's population

So the problem doesn’t start at the point of buying a Dodge Charger where its
>Leather for the seats is sourced from India
>The steel from China
>The rare minerals like Cobalt for the electronics from Africa
>The rubber from South America
>The oil for the fuel from Syria
Etc, etc, the issue comes into play where people intuitively understand that if all of those countries and regions were expecting to have living standards like that of the US, their $50,000 car would likely cost $500,000 and from that deciding that they’re not interested in any of this anti-capitalist nonsense and that’s the fault of the third worldies themselves for living in such poverty because of designated shitting streets and corrupt drug cartel-supporting dictatorships and anyone calling the Dodge Charger an article of imperialism are just jealous, anti-white and don’t understand that third worldies are inferior economically because they’re genetically inferior sorry not sorry get over it wokies.

>>2506617
>their $50,000 car would likely cost $500,000
this sounds like thinly veiled turd worldism
>third worldies are inferior economically because they’re genetically inferior sorry not sorry get over it wokies.
aha no just fashoid nonsense

>>2506612
but what about the baby settlers

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>>2506604
>you are fundamentally irrational.

China is now the biggest receiver of imperialist profit flows. China has a $1.5 trillion trade surplus.

>>2506646
Really? More imperialist than the West?

>>2506646
>imperialism is when you have a trade surplus

>>2506663
Thats a stolen surplus value of proletarians

>>2506690
>muh pRoLeTaRiAnS

>Critique of American inaction to do even the bare minimum of organizing
<CHINA CHINA CHINA MR XI JINPING MAO DENG ISRAEL REVISIONALISM GLOWIE SHILL
Tiresome

>>2506693
>do something
Thats voluntarism. You know, in respectable communist places, like ussr, for example, people get fired from their posts for voluntarism, like Khrushev, for example.

>>2506705
If you're genuinely saying that volunteerism is the same thing as simple organizing or that America is at all comparable to the USSR, I don't even know what to say.

>>2506706
Workers dont possess consciousness and all their strugglings are unplanned and spontaneous. You cant force organising. You cant force maturing of le workers. You are voluntarist revisionist dilettante intellectual unreliable

ctrl+f 'china'
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the absolute state of burgers

>>2506709
>ctrl+f

>>2506708
>Workers dont possess consciousness and all their strugglings are unplanned and spontaneous.
<Class conciousness does not exist
>You cant force organising. You cant force maturing of le workers.
You can literally convince people to organize and learn why a dotp benefits them more than a liberal democracy.
>You are voluntarist revisionist dilettante intellectual unreliable
Irrational accusation envisioned by a simple mind.

>>2506709
A complete and utter adversion to as this one says >>2506705 '>do something' says it all. It really is just pure lazyness and easier to strawman foreign countries for them.

>>2506711
<workers dont posses consciousness
>class consciousness doesnt exist
Really?

>>2506714
Moron that is literally what YOU tried to argue. I just rephrased your statement for you.

>>2506715
Workers dont possess class consciousness. Only party as a whole has class consciousness. Not its individual members, whole party. Not a single individual, no matter how well versed in theory he is, posseses class consciousness. Proletariat, as a class, exist only so far if it has a party. Without party it is only a class in a statistical sense and not for itself.

>>2506716
>Workers dont possess class consciousness. Only party as a whole has class consciousness. Not its individual members, whole party. Not a single individual, no matter how well versed in theory he is, posseses class consciousness. Proletariat, as a class, exist only so far if it has a party. Without party it is only a class in a statistical sense and not for itself.
An individual can have class conciousness, it's as simple as recognizing that if my landlord raises rent it is not in me or my fellow tenants interest to let that happen. Maybe I should organize with my fellow tenants. Have you ever tried thinking for yourself as an individual before?

>>2506718
>muh thinking for yourself
You might as well subscribe to le great man theory

>>2506718
>muh landlord decided raise rent because, uh, he just did, okay? Because HE decided, okay?

>>250671
>muh thinking for yourself
<I can't think for myself!!! My Head hurtie!!!
Are you just trolling or retarded, it doesn't matter talking to you as a waste of time since you can't fucking think anyways.
>You might as well subscribe to le great man theory
Great man theory is literally the opposite of thinking on an individual level.
>>2506720
You need to be 18 or over to post here. Also reading Marx first won't hurt either.

>>2506724
>muh reading
Neither of us are party members, it dont matta

>>2506728
Go back to whatever shithole site you came from and stay there.

>>2506724
There is no such thing as individual thinking.

>>2506731
Where?

>>2506732
Tell your mom that she would very proud that she carried you for nine (or less) months.

>>2506733
I don't know and I don't care. You're too retarded even for here, stop before your future self cringes at you.

>>2506734
What are you talking about?

>>2506737
Figure it out on your own.

>>2506736
Thats a future me problem. Also,YOU wont do jack shit about your economic situation.

>>2506739
>Also,YOU wont do jack shit about your economic situation.
More projection and strawman. Tiresome.

>>2506740
Okay you WILL do something about your economic situation and nothing else.

Don't have time for your stupid games kid. Goodbye.

>>2506744
Good bye have a great day


>>2506716
>Proletariat, as a class, exist only so far if it has a party
anon confuses class-in-itself for class-for-itself


>>2507155
>cowes love knäckebröd
grundat?

>>2506389
>tbh it sounds like "not all men" strawman cope. if you are "one of the good ones"
getting annoyed at armchairs with main character syndrome isnt a cope is just a reflection of a specific type of annoying leftypol poster. "the critique" is basically being an r9k user who thinks read settlers is good theory, why tf I gotta owe mfers data when some shitter is shitting up the thread lol.

>that is the voters

voters are the worst this country as to offer nonvoters are just better

>lumpen precariate with 3 gig jobs that gets evicted every other month

large group but not everyone in the 401k group is automatically precariat, imho theres no significant third demographic but moreso a bunch of smaller ones like >>2506399 mentions.

>who is the revolutionary subject that should be targeted for education and organization and what is the plan? how large is this section of american workers and what is the path towards actually mobilizing them to win?

fuck if I know

>>2502959
The peasants who produce coffee are less exploited than baristas. Do the math, use the labour theory of value, its a fact. Workers using machines are more productive than small family farms. The only reason third worldism has any purchase at all despite being contrary to everything Marx and Lenin wrote is because the worker's movement has dominated by petty capitalists since the 70's.

The average British white guy is more exploited than a Vietnamese peasent. And "exploited" doesn't mean "suffering", not any of the Badempanadite University Students and Professors who are frothing at the mouth to wrecjk the PROLETARIAN movement give a fuck, despite the fact they've never been exploited or suffered a dsay in their fucking lives.

>>2507878
"Communism" is the only movement where Badempanadite and Sakaist Univeristy Students and Professors can move to a third world world country, live a lavish lifestyle funded by dollar contributions while railing against the "sins" of people who actually fucking work for a living.

>>2507882
>>2507878
What the bourgeoisie calls "services" produce no value. Read proletarian political economic textbook. Everything you said is wrong.
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch15.htm
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch20.htm

>>2507883
I never brought up services. Baristas aren't service workers, they're produce vendible commodities. Customer service workers are service workers because they don't produde suplus value. Even a porn star who produces a DVD film or porn movie is more proletarian than an Indian customer service worker because they produce a vendible commodity (Adam Smith).

>>2507883
>stars are the only proletarians because anything other than creating atoms is just moving shit around

>>2507809
theres a wide gap between read settlers third worldists and principled analysis of labor aristocracy.

>large group but not everyone in the 401k group is automatically precariat

yeah i was saying theres two groups the 401k group who are a new type of petty bourgeois and the precariat who are lumpen. the first being a part of the FDR new deal which was ultimately a compromise to stop communist revolution after ww2 while industry was booming and the big bourgeoisie could afford concessions. the actual proletariat is small but growing, the problem is that lumpen arent moving up, its petty bourgeois getting pushed down and becoming reactionary because there is no organized movement to educate them.

>>2506690
Is that what imperialism means?


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