/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Theres no solution besides non-stop seething at current thing until they die.

I don't think they ever actually think that far ahead. It's basically wishing for the Rapture.

>>2504527
Birth rates in burgertown are dropping across the board tbf
Even immigrated groups eventually decline

>>2504530
glad i could help

>>2504544
*burps*

>No actual realistic steps seem to be discussed ever. It's either pining for deportations or masturbatory fantasies about Total (insert boogeyman here) Death

Their basic argument in the case of the more "well-spoken" ones are that "if you just shoot one or two people trying to cross the border, it'll send a clear message that we aren't tolerating this anymore." In terms of the people already here? Probably just open hostility in an effort to force people to leave, followed possibly by extermination camps.

Honestly extermination is just where these things end up I think. Hitler tried various methods to get rid of the Jewish people before settling on the Holocaust, in no small part because the comparatively "softer" methods of promoting Zionism or discriminating against people didn't work, and he vastly underestimated what I would call "patriotic" or "homestead" feelings among Jewish people. There were plenty of Jews who genuinely saw themselves as German, as having a connection to Germany, it was their home and so just saying "Well fuck you, you've got to leave" was met with a quiet hope, I think, that eventually this wave of discrimination would pass and things could "get back to normal".

Shit, I think the Nazis even did a study on Jewish soldiers in WW1 and funnily enough discovered that Jews were extremely diligent soldiers that won accolades far more than "gentile" soldiers.

The point being, what White Nationalists or Supremacists fail to understand is just how attached ethnic minorities are to their home. They've got these long-running narratives of "blood and soil" but they act like you can just dump a random Black American in Africa and its "basically the same thing". Ditto for Israelis thinking Palestinians can just "go anywhere" or live with "other arabs" because they see no distinction between a Palestinian and an Egyptian or Jordanian or Moroccan; I mean for fuck's sake there's distinctions between ethnic minorities born in different states! A Tejano has some distinct differences from a Hispanic man raised in California or New York.

So of course these types eventually wind up on "well lets exterminate all of them" because by standing their ground these groups assert their humanity in the face of right-wingers mythologizing them as fucking Orcs. In Lord of The Rings Sauron is destroyed and all the Orcs just panic, drop their weapons, and run for the hills. They're UrVillains with no connection to "the land", they've got no land, just various dark and murky swamps they spawn out of. If you shout "Sauron is destroyed, flee from Gondor before we execute you" and they say "fuck you, this is my home, I live here, I raised a family here" then they're dashing that white knight fantasy to bits. They aren't acting like these monsters made of spite and greed and vice like they're expected to.

This is why it's incredibly important to stand your ground and fucking fight while you can. I can't fault someone for running if they genuinely feel their life is in danger, but the mere act of planting your feet and saying this is as much your land as theirs is a powerful act of defiance in the face of Fascist thuggery.

theres that alex jones rant abt how all his followers are gonna live on somessort of ranch as independent rugged individuals with a tradwife and they think the only reason this isn't true for them now is [insert scapegoat of week here]

>>2504508
It's just a Nihilists death cult, the ethno state is just a vehicle for mass death. There is no master race utopia, you can read the turner diaries and see in their best case scenario they nuke the world master race gets to live in a blasted hell scape with likely millions of angry refugees coming around the corner.

>>2504508
>▶︎how exactly do wignats expect to achieve their "ethnostate"
WHo cares? why waste time on such nonsense.
If the fuckers raise their heads just put them down, the nitpicking of their absurd fantasies could go on forever and are wholly irrelevant.

wignats and the right in general don't actually think of imposing those terms seriously. They are as capitalis-realism pilled as everyone else. So despite winning hard they still think the needle hasn't moved since the last century.

But that's for the educated ones. For the masses, they have broken necks from scrying the culture war for some indication of where politics lies. They can be made to run in place with the "woke" stuff and things like Kirk's hilarious murder make them thingk that they are on a warpath. But then it all dissipates into nothing, more fuel for the grinding march of neoliberalism(which does not tolerate such divisive, market ruining policies) and they become confused.

For the average wignat, history , as told by the culture war, has been a grueling battle to move the needle or start the white revolution and they have been foiled at every step by mysterious(nonexistent) left forces akin to a "da j00s". They see "the left" in Soros and "communist billionaires". They think that by labeling everything they dislike "left wing" eventually they'll be able to form a large enough front against the actual impassable wall of their bourgeois handlers.

the actual goal is to terrorize people

>>2504677
Go back to pol dipshit

>>2504508
Because the US runs on genocide so it needs to justify continuing it in some way in order to exist. So various justifications need to be invented to continue genociding someone somewhere.

They will just change the definition for what counts as "white" until everyone is white but the blackest black people. Race is fake so it's easy to expand or shrink the racial coalition based on recruitment or scapegoating needs.

>>2504527
you're not going to increase birth rates without instituting a policy of mass rape, getting rid of abortion, birth control, conctraception, sex education, etc. At which point the white women you want to impregnate so badly will see you as worse than the people you are painting as "hordes of invading browns" assuming they already don't see you as worse (they do).

>>2504608
Commies really are just progressives with a thing for gulags. Convieniently, none of these arguments have any reliable source, and while they could just as easily be applied in the other direction, they are of course only used in an anti-white fashion. Non-whites can always be imported to any white area, no matter the circumstance.

>>2504527
>removing undocumented people
They will make every non-white undocumented. Those podcasts are normie bait, they have to make it sound reasonable for the propaganda to work.

>>2504853
And thats why big chunks of the far right advocate for "aryan rape gangs" and incel/white sharia.

Just read about history and you will see numerous examples of successful ethnic cleansing. In the case of racial cleansing, it just involves making life hell for minorities so that they leave.

Ethnostates only become increasingly outmoded and illogical and infeasible and retarded as technology moves ever forward and it only ever gets easier for people to move around the world.

>>2504961
China is 99% Chinese and I don't see that changing soon

>>2504999

>all chinese people are chinese what's the difference

typical western philistine pig ignorance

>>2505011
he's not referring to han chinese you dimwit, he means registered ethnic groups of china, ask a person from say, malaysia who isn't chinese if they can get citizenship in china, it is an ethnostate for everyone who's a registered ethnic group

they just hate brown people. that's it. you don't look for reals in a feels debate

>>2505015
>ethnostate with multiple ethnicities
something tells me you don't know what an "ethnostate" actually is

>>2505011
>the han dominate chinas most populated regions.
This is still over 80-90 percent han chinese

>>2505024
do you think chinese people would welcome africans into their country?

>>2505027
They already do. Thousands study in China. and thousands work there as well. The recent K-Visa update will also result in an influx.

>>2505029
It is actually hilarious that every western nationalist argument is BTFO by China.
>UHHH OUR SCIENCE AND TECH FIELDS ARE FALLING BEHIND BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND D.E.I.
<Meanwhile China gives Affirmative Action to its minorities so they can score less on exams but still get into good universities
>IF WE GOT RID OF ALL THESE MINORITIES AND BECAME MONO-ETHNIC WE WOULD PROSPER
<Meanwhile China has over 50+ different ethnic minority groups
>IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WOMEN! THEY NEED TO GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND STOP SLUTTING IT UP
<China has free legal universal abortion access for all women
the truth is western countries and their populations are just mentally retarded and will blame everything besides capitalism for their problems.

>>2505024
an ethnostate can have multiple ethnicities, see apartheid south africa or better yet, literally every singular east asian state, if you are not of its culture group, you are effectively unable to acquire citizenship, this is the action of an ethnostate, for example you can get citizenship in russia despite not being one of its select ethnicities relatively easily, the same is true for most other post-soviet nations, for me personally i'm only criticizing china precisely because it gets the most attention, allowing this problem to be shone a light

>>2505026
>>2505015
>>2505037

China isn't that kind of society. Your ethnicity/language/background is not really that big of a factor - China is a huge country with more than 300 different spoken languages. People have some local language they speak at home with their family/friends which is totally different and not even remotely mutually intelligible with what is called "Standard Chinese" which is just a national dialect that kids are taught in schools. It's almost like everyone is an immigrant, despite being born in China. A region as vast as China is really more comparable to something like Europe; it's just hard for westerners to tell because to us all Chinese people look alike.

>>2505027

Well, first of all it wouldn't really happen, China is still a country that is not fully developed and the general population are poor and work for low wages and live under strict authoritarian conditions, people don't typically immigrate en masse to those kinds of places; they immigrate to places like the United States or Europe because they don't want to abandon their life and travel thousands of miles to live in a foreign land just to be even poorer and more miserable than they were before.

>>2504854
Cry more, chinless bitch boy

>>2505032
China is an racially homogenous country filled with high autism score people. Yeah there are 2000 different "ethnicities" but you won't be able to tell them apart other than browner Chinese or white Chinese. But it doesn't matter, the browner Chinese still have very high autism score.

>>2505075
>Yeah there are 2000 different "ethnicities" but you won't be able to tell them apart other than browner Chinese or white Chinese.

At what point does all of this shit finally break down and you admit that race isn't a thing?

>>2504999
America is 101% American and I don't see that changing soon

>>2504674
Shit, this should be posted on 4chan. I wanna see their reaction. Also, this predicted Babylon Berlin lol

The sex scenes in OZ made my dick hard

>>2504508
It's not difficult it would just require violence on a mass scale which happens all the time in history. The Rwandan genocide killed like 800k people with machetes people just need the motivation. The only reason the Holocaust wasn't completed was because of the Soviets. If Amerika started purging itself no one would come to save them. What's really difficult is creating an industrial society without wage labor. Many have tried, all have failed.

>>2505492
It would take a shit ton of motivation to go from 800k people to over 100m

No serious white nationalist actually expects this to happen without the country completely collapsing to the point where whites wouldn't even wanna live there.
Most just bitch endlessly. Same reason why civilwarfags never do anything more than the occasional Walmart shooting. Anything that truly disrupts their comfort is a no-go.
In the event that America collapses before a race related genocide begins, they'd have bigger things to worry about mainly figuring out how the fuck they themselves are going to survive.

>>2505492
Number of completed genocides of millions of people:

>>2505533
The entire new world, for one. There used to be 2 million Aremnians in Turkey and now there's about 50k. Israel right is liquidating millions of Gazans. If you want to say those aren't completed because there's a few survivors, okay. Then that kind of failure could be replicated in America.

>>2505058
to be fair most places undergo a process like this. Regional dialects of the village and province disappear and get assimilated into the national language during the reign of the national bourgeoisie, whose historical role is to industrialize, inculcate civic nationalism, standardize weights, measurements, language, etc. and to integrate the nation into the broader international community of diplomacy and war.

so basically
>deport everybody
but really, just do it, take them apprehend them, put them wherever and however you can in prisons or detention facilities and then send them abroad. it dosent matter how, for them, you could put them entirely in a single gigantic boat and make them travel through the ocean. again it dosent matter that no country is actually willing to take them in, in that case they can all die.
>but what about the aftermath?
they dont really care, they either think that all illegals/immigrants were criminals anyway, so society heals on its own, alternatively they believe that "the spirit of the nation" or wathever other mystical bullshit comes in aid and saves the day by making everyone better.

>>2505533
Gauls

>>2505070
you will always be a hall monitor for billionaires

>>2505659
Never happened. Just Scottish Nationalist propaganda.

>>2504508
> people disaffected by capitalism
> idpol cope
> fed redirection towards terrorism to eliminate them and justify crackdowns and control
It’s basically what Jihadists are to Islam. There are numerous Islamic and White communities. Instead of just joining these or starting another one with their purity spiral ideology, they die in pointless suicide attacks or go to prison and inspire further hatred of their groups. The US government will back the extremists too. They funded Martinet press and were all the Base and Atomwaffen.