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My understanding is that the basis of capitalism is essentially the capacity for capitalists (owners of capital) to rise in power which is equal to or above the government under which they supposedly exist. It is the "deep state" of the economy. Yes, there is a class situation, but it is the capitalist class' unique ability to completely overwhelm the other classes with power that we define "capitalism" as.

With that being said, any business which is capable of expanding (not limited by logistics, communications, language restrictions, etc), would like to do so. That means the only difference between actual globalism and proto-globalism, which took shape in not only the early stages of capitalism but even the classical era (think Phoenicians, Babylonians, etc), is the technological means of projecting power. If economics are downstream from power politics, then capitalism as an economic system is downstream from owners of capital engaging in political maneuver.

what a schizopost

>>2506494
>My understanding is that the basis of capitalism is essentially the capacity for capitalists (owners of capital) to rise in power which is equal to or above the government under which they supposedly exist
not quite

>>2509093
The capitalist mode of production affects even the stateless and regions contested without a state, exploitation can occur without a state, property laws originated before the capitalist mode of production, enforcement of any "law" only requires brute force. Money as a universal commodity existed prior to the capitalist mode of production. Capitalists only require the state instrument because of its efficiency in enforcement, not because its a vital need which without capitalism would cease to exist.

>>2509102
And I'm not writing this to defend the idea, I'm saying Proudhon and Bakunin were wrong and were on route to recreate market dynamics and have had their movement fall into contradictions because of the refusal to accept Marx's analysis of the capitalist mode of production. The contradiction between Marx and Proudhon was on the instrumentality of the state, the contested later became neglected within anarchist circles as they went onto become astroturfed by socialdemocratic liberal trends and engage in praise of lesser evil states and national liberation (state creation) movements. Mutualist economics are those of trade, "equilivent exchange" and the outcome of which is accumulation of resources, creating purchasing power by barter / exchange, placing those who have nothing to exchange at a disadvantage as they may trade a coat for bread in the winter when coats are scarce, in spite of the two not being of equal value. Marx's position on the instrumentality of the state remains contested, as does the following program of withering after so-called socialization and a replacement by an administration of things. The function of the state remains that of a violent enforcer, any and all tasks outside of organized violence are not performed by the state but by workers and managers.

>>2509108
Self proclaimed anarchists who see no issue with markets wish to instrumentalize the market economy and capital for their own gain, ancraps want to accumulate it as to empower themselves whereas others which claim to be "anti-capitalist" believe that they can somehow cause redistribution and equalization of wealth by engaging in market economics as an instrument to compete against big capital - the epitome of petite-bourgeoisie aspirations.

>>2509102
>Capitalists only require the state instrument because of its efficiency in enforcement, not because its a vital need which without capitalism would cease to exist.
who enforces property law in the absence of a state

>>2506494
yeah and globalism is just proto-communism. once the whole world is one corporation workers just have to seize it.

jk capitalism is proto-communism and imperialist peace is fake. you can see this in the globalists rampaging around and failing to spread "democracy"


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