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>>2508896Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 113 posts and 23 image replies omitted.>>2510406>>2510417>>2510433it's untenable because China uses the revenue of a lot of profitable industries to keep funding not-profitable-but-strategically-important industries to maintain their productivity within a fundamentally capitalist framework. Trump would have to enact massive taxes on American giga-porkies and their piggy bank industries to fund them, but obv. as an American giga-porky he has not done that. They have been trying to explore other modes of funding these things like tariffs and trying to squeeze blood from the stone that is the American proletariat, but all of these avenues thus far have failed.
America wants the Chinese model but is ideologically incompatible with it.
>>2510585No, the implication is that they think Trve Christian Conservatives are just useful idiots for achieving their actual goals.
It's not that it's "fine" if they're being sincere, but that their own supporters are being actively lied to kind of makes for an easier discussion point when arguing with rightoids.
>>2510125You guys act like organizing is going to be that hard if/when the coolzone hits. Brother, this might be American communists' first rodeo in a long time, but it's not for the rest of the world. Just follow the book, and if it's the right time and place, it should happen pretty easily.
That's why I'm not rushing, personally. I think that in the off chance our opportunities really open up like that, there are enough communists primed ideologically that it will just pop into existence essentially.
>>2510599Well we're communists, we're certainly "primed ideologically" I guess, and despite what some people claim most of us do want to do shit and bring communism to these lands. The biggest barrier right now is that different factions of the left resue to cooperate even when we're all facing the threat of annihilation. And before I hear
>uh communism isn't the left you libtardIt must be addressed once again that the enemy DOES NOT FUCKING CARE. They're not going to distinguish you from the "leftoid degenerates" because to them everyone who isn't lockstep with MAGA is "the left", which includes communists and anarchists and demsocs. The only way out for any of us is through, the only way demsocs even get their most mild of reforms is through revolution, and we can only achieve revolution if we cooperate. Enough leftists need to get this through their heads first before we can accomplish anything meaningful
>>2510618>uh communism isn't the left you libtarddo you remember the ass-hat bordigaist retard who said it isn't, despite that across all the world and history communists always seated on the furtherst-left side of the national assemblies? he brought in the case of the CPI (communist party of Italy) to counter that fact, claimed the CPI never participated on elections, I showed
nah, they did, then he proceeds with a deflect that
it wasn't real CPI (because bordiga wasn't included)?
crazy stuff, huh? the worst US (nato to that extent) communism/leftism enemy right now is (so-called) "communists" and "leftists", obsessed in being liberals.
>>2510370if you disagree thats fine. but what i hate on here is how i will provide the standard by which im judging something
>measure of continuing to exist as a place that you can go as a communist to work with other communists. and some posters completely ignore it and say some unrelated shit obviously besides the point of what i said, turn around and go "hehe its bait gotcha libtard" or some other variation of "look im retarded doesnt that make you feel silly"
>>2510682We cant get either a transitional state or a not a state or even a new state as long as we have the old state still up and running, that's the thing
>>2510667Revolution by any means necessary. It will require a combination of tactics, ideological vanguards and decentralized clandestine cells coordinating with mutual aid groups and other parallel institutions working together for the expressed purpose of bringing down the government. It's been done before and it can be done again
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