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Previous Thread: >>2507380


Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet

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burger thread archives txt

Mandatory race mixing

1. Solves racism
2. Solves loneliness epidemic
3. Solves birth rates

Mandatory too much? Highly incentivized race mixing programs. 250k a per mixed baby you have.


>>2508919
I just want an asian girlfriend and will support any form of government that gives me one.

honkoid status?

>>2508919
i think paraguay under francia actually did this lol but i might be remembering wrong


>>2508919
You can’t race mix out of racism. The premise to begin with is flawed. Racists don’t particularly care too much about anything besides surface level details. Someone being white isn’t determined by objective facts and data, it’s determined by how the white man feels that day.

>>2508922
if a government gives you a "girlfriend" that's a sex slave. you are asking for a "comfort woman"

ICE issuing Israel-level lies about the people it is beating and shooting in Chicago. Videos exists from someone’s dashcam of the woman they shot and instead of “being boxed in and rammed by ten cars” they are sitting in traffic in a construction zone and then they start ramming all the cars.


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>>2508929
No? Why can't it be consensual government matchmaking and subsidies/benefits to encourage starting families?


>>2508933
The government isn’t giving you a girlfriend then. It’s setting you up with one.

>>2508938
How is that different? I don't want to enslave a woman.

>>2508937
https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1nyaj0c/ice_ramming_a_civilian_car_then_shooting_them/

Also, the fire department says that they found the shot woman bleeding on the sidewalk and took her to the hospital, not that she drove herself.

I think it’s also probable it will come out she did not have a firearm in her vehicle.

>>2508939
Giving implies possession of. Setting up or even getting implies it will help you find one.

>>2508925
Francia did promote race mixing but mainly he wanted to prevent Spaniards and whites in general from just breeding with each other. He wanted to keep them from monopolizing power in the country.

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every ICE thug needs to be dragged out onto the street and shot

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Stephen Miller reacting to the Oregon judge that just blocked trumps ICE deployment to portland

>>2508945
They're depleting the word terrorist so fast bro, theyre doing all this insane fascism while the entire economy is walking the deadliest tight rope and could collapse horribly at any given moment


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>>2508919
it doesn't solve racism
>t.latinx

>>2508945
here comes the burger reich (formal)?


Who the fuck is matt morse and why does youtube keep recommending him and chuds like him to me

>>2508932
I wish antifa was real and I wish they would riot hod damn it

>>2508943
i don't think that worked very well looking at a list of recent paraguayan presidents

>>2508922
>>>/gilead/

>>2508962
Yeah, he’s been in my feed as well. Kinda weird.

>>2508964
i mean i think they lost like half their population in the war of the triple alliance

>>2508960
Beautiful

>>2508967
>>2508964
also its not like the natives there were especially dark skinned to begin with + yes paraguay since then has mostly been standard comprador deal. idk why im so sincerely talking about obligatory racemixing policy meme rn

>>2508966
I use newpipe and since they switched to live feeds it's all rightoid lunatics all the time. The top of the feed is always some hysterical rightoid shrieking about antifa, leftists disrespecting charlie kirk, or putin launching nuclear attacks on the US.

Ice and/or the army is going to big cities and people have been shot+killed and had their homes raided with helicopter drops? WTF is going on today in teh USA?

>>2508945
why is there no west coast independence movement

>>2508971
Might be the algorithm re-associating live streams with matt morse then

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>>2508973
great question friend. there should be! miller is from santa monica so on that basis alone we should deprive him of his birthplace

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only 2 more months. who you puttin the money on?

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>>2508972
>2025 wildfires
>ICE raids
>natguard occupations
>ukrainian chick stabbed
>kirk shot
>giant funeral for kirk
>generals all flown home to listen to kegbreath screech about erotic spartan warrior ethos
not enough happenings i need MOAR

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>>2508979
>Alliance: Working Families

>>2508973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement
California has had various secession/independence movements but it's almost always the NIMBY's and rednecks pushing for it.

Personally I think secession is off the table unless multiple regions do it simultaneously. The United States simply won't allow a new state to pop up on its borders that threatens its geographic security.

>>2508981
WNAGOATFFWF

>>2508981
we need a government of failure to balkanize the burger reich

>>2508980
you are a passive spectator, I suggest you go outside

>>2508979
cuomo
new york will be under martial law and he'll pull assad numbers from all the rigging and voter suppression

>>2508990
yeah, Zohran has indulged racist jewish fears about Palestinian liberation, and personally sucked the dicks of every NYPD officer. his only real use is unintentionally ripping the mask off electoral democracy when he is ratfucked


>>2508919
I absolutely refuse to subsidize sexhaving.

>>2508996
Not a bad decision at all, especially with climate change going on.

>>2508979
If only Republicans fielded a bog-standard business-friendly Republican they would have made it, but they had to go with a semi-crank. This is Zohran's time to shine.

>>2508996
it would be a tax on chads. we tax condoms and birth control and use it to fund incel matchmaking services.

>>2509003
That's Andrew Cuomo. Unfortunately they all have to be Zionist cucks as well otherwise that would be the sensible choice.

I miss Iron Felix. His posts sometimes were insightful although provocative

>>2509008
no, they werent.

>>2509008
>hasn't posted since the government shutdown


>>2508981
I think it's time we hold working families accountable.

>>2509015
well we know he's in portland so it could also be that.

>>2509026
iron felix is currently in the streets fighting against ICE tyranny and we're sitting here making fun of him on a dying imageboard

lmao i haven't gone anywhere i am just looking for a new place to live and busy working.

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>>2509030
>>2509031
reminder that felix lives in portland. nothing wrong with living in portland for anybody else, just remember that and check whats happening in portland whenevr he posts about how anyone who doesnt immediately throw their body at the cops guns is a cracker coward fascist

>>2509031
felix do you carry a gun at protests or how do you expect to defeat the pigs without one?

>>2509040
there's no point in one person showing up with a gun to anything like this, you'd just get mowed down accomplish nothing. even if you had a squad of infantry, assaulting a fortified position like this would be a death sentence.

the point of things like this isnt to kill pigs, it's to train people, to regiment as many as possible and get them prepared, both physically and psychologically, to face the state's repressions. that way, when the time is ripe for armed struggle, it becomes a natural evolution rather than a forced step.

read lenin and joe slovo.

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🚨🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨🚨

>>2509053
conservatives about to overthrow the gay cake thing from a decade ago

>>2508919
You amerilards and your pathologicial racial fixations and fetishes. Truly cringe and bizarre.

>>2508922
Noone is "giving" you a gf brah

>>2509058
I deserve one though. Why would I die for communism if I can't have a gf?

>>2509053
oh yeah. remember charlie kirk?

>>2509059
>why would I die for communism
you wouldn't
>if I can't have a gf
you clearly care about getting a state mandated comfort woman more than communism, and if you were rewarded this treat, you would want to die even less
>>2509057
don't lump me in with that freak (or the other 342 million am*ricans)

>>2509061
You know nothing about me. I don't want a comfort woman I want someone I can love that will love me back. Why do people assume so much negativity on the part of lonely dudes?

>>2508947
Words destroyed by amerilards
1 Communist
2 Socialist
3 Racist
4 Fascist
5 Nazi

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>>2509062
i'm not assuming negative things about you because you're "lonely", i'm assuming negative things about you because you want a state mandated gf

>>2509059
Go away
>>2509062
Go on….shoo

>>2509062
Fucking clown, lmaooo.

>>2508971
>putin launching nuclear attacks on the US.
If only

>>2509062
Also willing to bet you're not even an incel but rather a regular ole sex-haver larping out his sick fantasies.

>>2508981
Based and maupin pilled

>>2509065
>>2509066
>>2509068
Gotta admit I've never been as tempted to become an angry right-wing incel chud as I am right now over my comrades belittling me.

>>2509071
nah I'm a 100% khhv but I'm not the typical /r9k/ type that wants to hurt women so I feel out of place on 4chan but also on here because I guess sexhaving is required on the Left.

>>2509074
would you accept a rental femboy instead

>>2509008
>I miss Iron Felix
QRD

>>2509076
If I were 10 years younger sure but I want someone my own age and twink death is unfortunately very real.

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>>2509074
>I've never been as tempted to become an angry right-wing incel chud
you already are one. if you're such a pushover that you "become" reactionary at the slightest provocation maybe you were just reactionary all along

obviously anyone wanting a state mandated gf is reactionary

>sexhaving is required on the Left.

no it isn't

>>2509045
> accomplish nothing
Which is what you're doing now

>>2509079
>you already are one. if you're such a pushover that you "become" reactionary at the slightest provocation maybe you were just reactionary all along
you just described pretty much every single person on planet earth. humans are inherently reactionary and if you spit on them they will vote for fascists just to get back at you even if it hurts them in the long run. optics matters and being a dick to people who aren't your enemy can come back to haunt you even if it makes you feel badass in the present. Democrats are learning this rn with how much they alienated every demographic that isn't a wealthy white woman working in HR and now everyone wants to see them fail.

>>2509081
SR left adventurist or fed bait, call it. peep the flag btw

>>2509074
No matter what group your in if you're an adult male virgin you will be mocked. You will be seen as a failed adult and most likely you are. I don't think there's really a political to any of that and people will be people no matter the ideology unfortunately.

>>2509087
Option 3: the objective truth

>>2509088
>I don't think there's really a political to any of that and people will be people no matter the ideology unfortunately.
There has to be a political element to it because male virginity is spiking in recent years and is primarily focused around the imperial core and its colonies. Something about liberal capitalism causes men to retreat from society.

>>2509074
you hate the autonomy of women and others

>>2509094
I never said this and stated in a previous post that it should be entirely voluntary again you're just making shit up.

>>2509092
I meant to say a political solution. But yeah I think there is a greater political or economical element involved. Although sometimes I think it's partially genetic or just bad luck.

>>2509098
>Although sometimes I think it's partially genetic or just bad luck.
Perhaps we need to breed more based socialist chads that the ladies find attractive


>>2509098
I don't think it's really genetic or bad luck. In fact inceldom is something you'd expect to be filtered out by genetics. The rise in male loneliness is pretty much entirely societal and at least partially due to a failure of society to give men a role beyond being a provider in a society where men are increasingly unable to provide.
Like, when women out-earn men at this point it's impossible to also maintain the romantic standard that the man has to provide for his wife. Women aren't changing their romantic taste to fit a more egalitarian concept of masculinity and men are unwilling to "put themselves out there" if they think women might reject them for being failsons(which they will). Capitalism breeds hyper-competitiveness in everything, and romance is no exception. The Left should be more active in discussing this, instead of seething that incels "want to take away women's autonomy" when most of them just want a normal romance.

>>2509086
>you just described pretty much every single person on planet earth.
no i described you, and you are now projecting yourself onto all of humanity to shield yourself from criticism
>humans are inherently reactionary
muh human nature
> and if you spit on them they will vote for fascists just to get back at you even if it hurts them in the long run
<fascism
<vote
> optics matters and being a dick to people who aren't your enemy can come back to haunt you even if it makes you feel badass in the present
look at all the philosophy you're doing because you got made fun of for announcing your desire to get a state mandated comfort woman (who is programmed to love you)
>Democrats are learning this rn with how much they alienated every demographic that isn't a wealthy white woman working in HR and now everyone wants to see them fail.
Democrats are reactionary

>>2509113
why are you so mad at me dude all I want is a girlfriend is this what they call tsundere?

>>2509109
>"want to take away women's autonomy"
Why do amerilard leftists (crypto-radlibs) view women's deeper integration and assimilation into the capitalist system as a good or progressive development?

>>2509115
>all I want is a girlfriend
1 Go to gym
2 Quit whinging
3 Care less
Desperation is a major gf repellant

>>2509116
t. historical materialism denier
<capitalism was not a progressive force over feudalism

>>2509122
Protip: the feudalist stage is over theorylet

>>2509124
doesn't excuse the fact that you still deny the progressive forces at play right now
>women's deeper integration and assimilation into the capitalist system as a good or progressive development
yes, it is progressive over the previous state of things

>>2509115
quit being a bitchmade coward because you are genuinely repulsive, not only to women but to men as well

>>2509127
>women being dependent on and slaving for porky instead of engaging in social relations with their family and community is a good thing
Lol. Lmao.

>>2509129
>women being slaves to their husbands is better than them working in society

>>2509132
>Muh huge gaping strawman
Sad

>>2509133
that's literally what you're saying

>>2509134
No. No it isn't.

>>2509132
I don't understand how women becoming wageslaves is considered progressive? Like it literally only benefits porky? How do women benefit here?

Ok, now it's just obvious this guy is just a shitposting troll fishing for (You)s. He couldn't help but play his hand all out and make himself out into a caricature beyond parody. Just ignore his dumb ass and talk about something else.

>>2509140
What guy?

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>>2509115
i will be your gf if you destroy the empire

>>2509148
you know what, deal. thats exactly the kinda motivation i need to get off my ass and do some praxis.

>>2509129
>muh family

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>>2509151
>family is baaad mmmkay
Sad. Another victim of the capitalist destruction of non-commodified social and kin relations

>>2509121
>1 Go to gym
1 have an actual productive prole job

>>2509155
>you're a reactionary if you don't want people slaving for porky instead of engaging in social relations with family and community
Kek

>>2509129
First shit (patriarchal) take from new 'stache poster

>>2509158
honestly every minute spent at the gym instead of on here is good for you. I should start going again.


>>2509157
>What is Engels?!

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>>2509159
All I did was post something Engels wrote in 1847 and state that the exchange you and the other anon had reminded me of it. I made no commentary, let alone what was in your made up green text. I actually have a wife and child.

>>2509160
I'm sorry to disappoint you comrade.

>>2509162
No need for gym.

>>2509167
repetitive manual labor is injurious because it is done on porky's pace and not your own. it results in strain injuries. it's not the same as exercise which is controlled and is done at your pace with your safety in mind.

>>2509157
It's really interesting how China manages to promote family values and Communism simultaneously while the West completely rejects any notion of the family as having any significance at all even though all evidence points to family being the #1 predictor of a child's ability to succeed in life.
Then again China also has a huge male loneliness epidemic so I don't think it makes a difference if you're living under a market economy anyway.

>>2509164
>>What is Engels?!
Lol
>>2509165
>I'm just posing questions arbitrarily guise
Lmao, even
>>2509167
You fit brah? You a brocialist chad via labour?

>>2509169
there is a Confucian revival in China despite the GPCR targeting it because Confucianism serves as a semi-secular conservative religion of filial piety and civic duty. This is useful if you've already had a revolution and are trying to maintain your grip on power.

>>2509160
not his first tbh, surprised how his grotesquely low-effort posting is still tolerated
>>2509169
>family values
empty signifier tbh, could mean anything from reactionary "kinder kuche kirche" to "it's nice to spend time with your children and listen to them"

>>2509169
> China manages to promote family values and Communism simultaneously
Correct
>Then again China also has a huge male loneliness epidemic
Mainly caused by the 1 child policy which skewed the sex ratios in China

>>2509173
>his grotesquely low-effort
Labour fetishism. Pathetic.
>is still tolerated
>passive aggressive requests to cancel
Low T
>I need specific linguistic definitions of non-comodified kin relations or I will insinuate reactionary impulses arbitrarily because reasons
Lmfao

>>2509174
>Mainly caused by the 1 child policy which skewed the sex ratios in China
Not at all true. It's mainly caused by the pressure to succeed and Chinese women just not being willing to sacrifice earning potential to be a housewife unless their husband is successful himself. Pretty much exactly the same as the West.
One Child Policy didn't actually result in a decline in female babies. It just resulted in a lot of unregistered female children suddenly popping up the moment they started applying for university and got a government ID.

>>2509173
>empty signifier tbh, could mean anything from reactionary "kinder kuche kirche" to "it's nice to spend time with your children and listen to them"
Sure I guess, I don't think any particular family values are important beyond the idea of promoting a family unit, any kind of family unit, for children to give them a stable home life. I don't care if its two gay dudes or two lesbians or an unmarried couple but people should have kids and they should live under the same roof and they should give children a nurturing environment to thrive and western individualism has lost sight of the fact humans need socialization and companionship and aren't automatons.

>>2509176
>Not at all true.
Incorrect
>One Child Policy didn't actually result in a decline in female babies
Yes it did

>>2509171
>I'm just posing questions arbitrarily guise
J posed no questions. I posted a passage from Engels without commentary. If you would like my commentary (as a person with a family) it is this: Family is increasingly difficult to maintain in a hyper-capitalist hyper-individualist alienated imperialist society that elevates sociopathy, like the USA. To the extent that people have functional families at all, it is usually because they have (at the very least) petty bourgeois property or some kind of religious superstructure like a church community to fall back on. But capitalism is, was, and will continue to destroy these things, just as Marx and Engels said. And like Engels says, only reactionary socialists try to restore patriarchal and feudal relations, because it is impossible.

As someone with a family, I noticed that I had fewer children than my parents, and my parents had fewer than their parents, and so on. In the imperial core you see low fertility rates due to a lot of things: Abortion, Birth Control, Contraceptives, Sex Education, Short Relationships, Decline in Marriage, Increased Divorce Rates, but also the constant pressure to give everything to your "career" if you're petty bourgeois, or to spend your whole life slaving for subsistence wages if you're a prole. When people do have kids, they have fewer, and treat them more like an individual. Better to make one person who "makes it" than to make several who do not. Better to make one kid and give them a good life than to make 10 with bad lives. We no longer live in Peasant times where everyone grows up working on a farm and it was normal for a woman to give birth to 5-10 children without anesthesia, potentially dying in childbirth. We live in different times. Women understandably don't want to go back to those times even though capitalism is also bad in a completely different way. I want what's best for my family but I also see family, at least the family in its current form, as a sort of historically contingent thing that might go away eventually under socialism or communism. Make sense?

>>2508945
I support the death penalty because Stephen Miller is still alive.

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>>2509175
<picrel
>>2509176
>western individualism has lost sight of the fact humans need socialization and companionship and aren't automatons.
since this extends way beyond the family unit, i would argue it's rather unproductive to only campaign for family value promotion

>>2509180
>Family is increasingly difficult to maintain in a hyper-capitalist hyper-individualist alienated imperialist society that elevates sociopathy, like the USA.
Correct
>But capitalism is, was, and will continue to destroy these things, just as Marx and Engels said
Correct
>only reactionary socialists try to restore patriarchal and feudal relations
Not all pre capitalist non-commodified kin/social relations were patriarchal and feudal
>a woman to give birth to 5-10 children without anesthesia
Noone is suggesting that - least of all me
>I also see family, at least the family in its current form, as a sort of historically contingent thing that might go away eventually under socialism or communism. Make sense?
No
Family is a vital part of being human and socialising new humans regardless of the economic system

>>2509183
>insults people and hints at canceling them for no apparent reason
>reeeeeee how dare you insult me!
Holy fucking kek.
>i would argue it's rather unproductive to only campaign for family value promotion
Noone was suggesting that retardo

>>2509187
now you're just making shit up

>>2509185
>Family is a vital part of being human and socialising new humans regardless of the economic system
that's why I clarified
<at least the family in its current form
But I disagree that family is a "vital part of being a human being" rather than being historically contingent. Humans have been around for 200,000 years, more if you count hominids, and the family is a much more recent social innovation. Note I do not treat the family as the same thing as the tribe or the clan. A person might for example feel more kinship with their unrelated political comrades than with their own blood-ties.

What do Marx and Engels say about the origin of the family?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

>Here we see that animal societies are, after all, of some value for drawing conclusions about human societies; but the value is only negative. So far as our evidence goes, the higher vertebrates know only two forms of family – polygyny or separate couples; each form allows only one adult male, only one husband. The jealousy of the male, which both consolidates and isolates the family, sets the animal family in opposition to the herd. The jealousy of the males prevents the herd, the higher social form, from coming into existence, or weakens its cohesion, or breaks it up during the mating period; at best, it attests its development. This alone is sufficient proof that animal families and primitive human society are incompatible, and that when primitive men were working their way up from the animal creation, they either had no family at all or a form that does not occur among animals. In small numbers, an animal so defenseless as evolving man might struggle along even in conditions of isolation, with no higher social grouping than the single male and female pair, such as Westermarck, following the reports of hunters, attributes to the gorillas and the chimpanzees. For man's development beyond the level of the animals, for the achievement of the greatest advance nature can show, something more was needed: the power of defense lacking to the individual had to be made good by the united strength and co-operation of the herd. To explain the transition to humanity from conditions such as those in which the anthropoid apes live today would be quite impossible; it looks much more as if these apes had strayed off the line of evolution and were gradually dying out or at least degenerating. That alone is sufficient ground for rejecting all attempts based on parallels drawn between forms of family and those of primitive man. Mutual toleration among the adult males, freedom from jealousy, was the first condition for the formation of those larger, permanent groups in which alone animals could become men. And what, in fact, do we find to be the oldest and most primitive form of family whose historical existence we can indisputably prove and which in one or two parts of the world we can still study today? Group marriage, the form of family in which whole groups of men and whole groups of women mutually possess one another, and which leaves little room for jealousy. And at a later stage of development we find the exceptional form of polyandry, which positively revolts every jealous instinct and is therefore unknown among animals. But as all known forms of group marriage are accompanied by such peculiarly complicated regulations that they necessarily point to earlier and simpler forms of sexual relations, and therefore in the last resort to a period of promiscuous intercourse corresponding to the transition from the animal to the human, the references to animal marriages only bring us back to the very point from which we were to be led away for good and all.


>Man is a species-being … because he treats himself …
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm

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I casually observe that his responses seem to be very hostile and low effort. He delights in getting attention by using a flag, and enjoys making up things that other people did not say.

>>2509194
….Marx…. endorses….. treatlerism….

>>2509172
>filial piety and civic duty
I was thinking about how we would organize unpleasant labor under communism and this is the best thing that comes to mind short of doing voluntarily labour because of your love to our species.

>>2509192
>family is a much more recent social innovation
Complete nonsense
>when primitive men were working their way up from the animal creation, they either had no family at all or a form that does not occur among animals.
Were they there? What evidence do they cite? This is just assertion based on speculation.

So the regime is talking about using "dangerous cities as training grounds for military", domestic terrorism, "invasion from within", Trump telling the military commanders in the audience that they will be involved in it.

Where will these soldiers be coming from? Will their presence in other countries be understaffed as a result?

>>2509199
Read the Communist Manifesto you degenerate liberalist.

>>2509200
No, you're getting actual black hundreds organized by the state and not for the state. Buckle up buckaroo, 1880s are so back

>>2509196
>If I remove my flag I can appear to double the consensus in my transparently dishonest attempts at consensus manipulation
So so sad. You suffer from an authoritarian personality born of an infantile disorder

>>2509204
projecting big huh?

>>2509202
Marx was wrong on certain issues especially primitive anthropology.

>>2509205
>no…no you!
Lmao.

>>2509199
>Were they there?
Anon… come on. Is that also what you say when people talk about the fossil record or the cosmic microwave background?
>What evidence do they cite?
anthropology at the time which was admittedly a way less developed field than it is now. Nonetheless, a lot progress was being made at the time. Keep in mind, again, I am talking about the idea of a cosanguinous family. A small unit living under a single household tied by blood. Not the more vague idea of a "community" or a "tribe." Humans even when hunter gatherers traveled in groups, but the relations of these groups were more fluid and varied, and the idea of a standardized patriarchal family came much later. Am I making sense?

>>2509206
>Marx was wrong on certain issues especially primitive anthropology.
Please elaborate, I'm interested.

>>2509208
>Is that also what you say when people talk about the fossil record or the cosmic microwave background?
Both of those are supported by evidence
>anthropology at the time which was admittedly a way less developed field than it is now.
Precisely
> Am I making sense?
Yes but my point stands. Family is essential - whether in nuclear or, better yet, extended forms - for a healthy society of well adjusted people

>>2509202
Not even. That retard needs to read Stalin.
>but anon they're trolling
and I'm having fun too. Go to ismail if you want quality discussion.

>>2509210
If true then I'm sorry
>>2509211
>no…no you!
>>2509212
Modern developments in anthropology prove these assertions to be incorrect

What I'm saying is, polygamy is real communism.

>>2509219
Shut up.

>>2509216
Stalin was a big supporter of the family and "family values"

>>2509219
Only if harem

>>2509221
Especially her own family.

>>2509219
>>2509220
>resorting to false flagging no
Sooo so dad. Smh.

Sad*
Patriarchal freudian undergarment


>>2509224
Not everything in the USApol thread is a false flag glow op. Take your meds

>>2509227
>strawman
Smh.

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>>2509218
>Modern developments in anthropology prove these assertions to be incorrect
No I'm asking for you to elaborate on what specifically Marx was wrong about and why. Just the idea that there was no family unit in hunter gatherer society, or is there more to it that he was wrong about?

>>2509230
>No I'm asking for you to elaborate on what specifically Marx was wrong about
The idea that there was no family unit in hunter gatherer society

>>2509213
>Both of those are supported by evidence
yes of course, but a person could easily say "were you there?" as a counter. So it was a weak counter argument to say that in response to Marx/Engels on anthropology (they were going by what was known at the time).

>Family is essential - whether in nuclear or, better yet, extended forms - for a healthy society of well adjusted people

OK so it's clear that we're having a language thing here. By family you mean something much wider than what I was talking about. We probably don't even disagree. I was more talking about the form of the family that arrives with class society.

>>2509171
>You a brocialist chad via labour?
Yup. I burn 3k calories via labour every day.

>>2509232
> (they were going by what was known at the time).
Subsequently shown to be wrong. That's all I'm saying.
>I was more talking about the form of the family that arrives with class society.
Fair enough. But SOME midwits conflate ALL form of family with capitalist oppression eg radlibs and bourg pomo feminists
>>2509233
Nice

>>2509234
>Nice
Yes, and no. I'm willing to burn twice as much if we were building socialism with my calories. This, now, is a necessity for survival.

>>2509235
Our day shall come comrade.

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Critical support to Portland and Chicago police in their struggle against ICE fascists

>>2509124
>the feudalist stage is over

If that were true people wouldn't hand over 1/3 of their income to something called a landlord.

>>2509249
Modern landlordism is capitalist in nature - not feudal - you utter theorycel imbecile.

>>2509116
> amerilard leftists (crypto-radlibs) view women's deeper integration and assimilation into the capitalist system as a good or progressive development?

because it is?

>>2509263
>because it is?
Incorrect
>Subsuming more people into capitalist exploitation is good guise
No

>>2509267
it is though?

>>2509109
>women out-earn men at this point
I've yet to see a statistics report where this is the general case and I hereby challenge you to link me one
Spoiler: it's yet another incel phantasm

>>2509237
Lal salaam

>>2509277
Incorrect

>“If those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves” to “send them out awash in something,” Jones wrote to Republican politician Carrie Coyner.

>“Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. Spoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know and he receives both bullets every time,” Jones wrote, according to National Review

>>2509109
>women out-earn men at this point

That's not true at all, women earn like 80% of what men earn for the same work.

>>2509288
explain why rather than just dodging it

>>2509294
hero, elect this man now

>>2509301
Libcuck

>>2509294
Uh, based?

>>2509298
As capitalism devolves into neofeudal managerialism (an unforeseen development), accelerationism of capitalism will not hasten the journey towards socialism but quite the contrary.

>>2509259

Capitalism turns into feudalism when there are no new territories to conquer. Companies eliminate all of their competition and instead of selling commodities to consumers for profit they hold monopolistic control over industries and charge tenants for access. You already see this happening in the tech sector. People don't own movies or books or TV shows or videogames anymore, instead they subscribe to a service that owns the digital rights to all of the movies/books/games/etc. in the world and they pay rent to access them.

>>2509309
This is neofeudal managerialism and qualitatively different to feudalism by virtually every metric except a very shallow 2D surface level one

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>>2509307
>neofeudal managerialism
I don't buy this Djilas inspired Varoufakis meme, comrade.

t. ML


>neofeudal managerialism

oo la-di-la mr. too coward to name things as they should, obscuring capitalism to make more palatable to the average consumer mr frenchman.
how do you actually call it?
a
CAPITALISM

>>2509327
Peak material analysis.
>>2509328
Your loss comrade.

>>2509329
Yes. Late stage capitalism aka neofeudal managerialism


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