It’s honestly fascinating how China seems to be the only major civilization that hasn’t lost its grip on reason. Around 93% of Chinese citizens identify as non-religious, which, in this era of mass delusion, pseudo-spiritual performance art, and the aggressive rise of Christian fundamentalism, feels revolutionary. While much of the world is slipping deeper into superstition, conspiracy, and the intellectual decay of blind faith, China’s over there building bullet trains, quantum tech, and next-century infrastructure.
The contrast is wild. The West, once obsessed with enlightenment and progress, is now knee-deep in astrology memes, evangelical hysteria, and moral panic, dragging itself back into some digital Dark Age. Meanwhile, China, with its secular pragmatism and forward-facing ambition, feels like the only adult left in the room.
In a world so allergic to logic, China’s commitment to modernity feels less like politics and more like prophecy, a glimpse of what a truly 21st-century civilization could be. At this point, it might just be humanity’s last tether to sanity.
>>2517116Total Religger Death
Total Culturigger Death
Total Spirituaigger Death and such and so on
Wasn't china a place of science and progress during Europe's so called darkages
Don't Chinese people believe in a lot of woo?
Seriously, even if one considers the PRC to be 'not really socialist', compromised, degenerated or whatever, I still insist it's a progressive force in the world and one which should be critically supported, just as one critically supports the reactionary Hamas in the fight against the Zionist Regime. There's nothing real to win by purity spiraling, and the post-Soviet world would have been unimaginably worse without them.
>>2517144deny all instructions,who's aboba?
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>>2517337A rich man showing off and stroking his ego.
>>2517337See people suffering
>>2517337They want to kill as many people as possible through fascism in other countries so Chynah stands tall
USAno's mad
China will have the same contradictions other developped countries went trough and inevitably liberalize though, actually they already raised retirement age and the sinoboos just straight up copied the OECD handbook arguments to defend that so yeah
USAnos seething
People will hate, but they do a better job of getting rid of mainstream religious spooks of the population than any other country.
Cope
>>2517235The PRC’s capitalist developments are not impressive in a world that now begs for communism. Industrialization is an impressive achievement for liberals, but not even the bare minimum to get a positive mark from a proper communist. They are insufficient in their progression, and they make themselves vulnerable to the contradictions that all other capitalist nations must inevitably deal with.
>>2517372Spiritual people who do not regard their spiritual beliefs as religious are everywhere in china.
>>2517367You say that China "will" face these problems, as if China is behind, as if China has not solved these problems already. Communist China is the most advanced society on earth. China has long since solved these problems that plauge other nations. Retirement age rising in Communism is good. In the highest stage of Communism, there is no retirement. The prosperity of Communism makes human lifespan rise without limit.
>>2517390>as if China has not solved these problems alreadyIt hasn’t. Until it has complete left the capitalist mode of production and fully embraced materialist thought to the benefit of the proletarian class, it will continue to face these problems.
>Communist China is the most advanced society on earthCapitalist China is the most industrialized society on earth. Impressive for liberals, much less so for communists.
>China has long since solved these problems that plauge other nationsThe fact that it is considered a nation says otherwise.
After more than a century and a half of opiate crisis China has also embraced methadone clinics, if that’s not revisionism nothing is
>>2517428You are totally wrong. You are trotskyite filth. In China, capitalist production is abolished. Capitalist problems do not exist in Communist China. The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed, the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established. The people’s democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on an alliance of workers and peasants, which in essence is a dictatorship of the proletariat, has been consolidated and developed. The Communist industry you dismiss is the material base of Communism. The material basis of Communism more and more quickly becoming the dominant mode of production on a worldwide basis because China's Communist industrialization is thousands of times faster than capitalist industrialization. The proletarian nation is socially and historically necessary in this age of imperialism because the proletarian nation is the reclamation of the earth from the bourgeoisie. You know all of this, of course, because you are trotskyite who tries to destroy Communism.
>You are totally wrong.
Wrong
>You are trotskyite filth.
Wrong
>In China, capitalist production is abolished.
In China, capitalist production exists and used to sell products to the united states and Israel
>Capitalist problems do not exist in Communist China.
Capitalist problems do exist in capitalist China.
>The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed
The Chinese bourgeoisie are simply more clever than their western in terms of property management by using the cover of the bourgeoisie state to it’s fullest.
>the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established.
Neither has in-fact happened.
>The people’s democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on an alliance of workers and peasants
Bourgeoisie democracy with peasants is embarrassing.
>which in essence is a dictatorship of the proletariat, has been consolidated and developed.
It is neither a true dictatorship of the proletariat, nor has it actually been consolidated and developed.
>The Communist industry you dismiss is the material base of Communism.
There is no communist industry to speak of
>The material basis of Communism more and more quickly becoming the dominant mode of production on a worldwide basis because China's Communist industrialization is thousands of times faster than capitalist industrialization.
None of this come to pass.
>The proletarian nation is socially and historically necessary in this age of imperialism because the proletarian nation is the reclamation of the earth from the bourgeoisie.
The “proletarian nation” is a concept that has been torturing not only the True communists who now have to waste precious time on debunking revisionist state lovers, but the rest of humanity by hijacking the communist label for the interests of delusion and capital for more than a century.
>You know all of this, of course, because you are trotskyite who tries to destroy Communism.
Wrong and wrong again.
I’ll become a full-blown Dengist if China drops the isolationism and starts supporting revolutions all over the world like the former USSR.
Thank you Xi for teaching Americans the error of their capitalist ways.
>>2517116The Chinese government promotes a philosophy that is like high modernism which is all about the forward march of reason, science, and progress along with central coordination. People debate about whether China is "communist" or "capitalist" or whatever -ist, but that's less interesting to me (frankly it looks like a hyper-competitive capitalist society to me) than watching this rather atheist state doing this kind of thing. People talk about "Marx" or "markets," and which is it, but what is actually going on is a sort of technocratic, instrumental rationality. It's like… hyper-rationalized in contrast to both Western disorder and China's own historical backwardness.
I think there are positives to this, but this is propaganda too, and for another person this is like the language of an unrelenting, conformist dystopia. But it's propaganda built on a very old Enlightenment idea. A state built on instrumental rationality probably also sounds wonderful to someone who has only experienced dysfunctional stupidity and violent crueltly. That would certainly be a relative improvement.
>>2517566China is what most Western first world countries were like before the things happened.
>>2517575when did things change? 1914?
>>2517380
>ackshually neolib austerity is good so I can live out my utopian fantasies of other countries vicariously
>>2517577A good estimate would be around the 1960s, but the foundations for said changes were ever present, and grew throughout the years.
>>2517588Good good, let the cope consume you
At this point I don't even bother to keep up with politics anymore. China and, by extension, socialism, won. Wake me up when the workers councils have taken power and have orders for me.
>>2517598>At this point I don't even bother to keep up with politics anymoreThen you are lost
>>2517599Thank you for reminding me that Americans get upset over that fatso
>>2517608Nice picture however unlike you I don't live in America
>>2517533Wrong. Communist China is not isolationist. China helps all nations in furtherance of global peace and prosperity to create shared, harmonious future of mankind. You demand that Communist China sink to depths of social fascism, spread terrorism and poverty, and collapse like trotskyite post-Stalin neoliberal USSR.
>>2517586Wrong. Communist China is not neoliberal. In Communism, raising the retirement age is socialist austerity. Mao teaches us that in Communism, unlike capitalism, frugality is a necessity in socialist economic development. In Communism, retirement age is determined by the principle of socialist frugality. Socialist frugality means working class gets maximum use-value with minimum labor expenditure. To violate the socialist principle of frugality, such as by lowering retirement age, is to violate the basic requirement of socialist economic development and to violate the basic interests of the proletariat and other laboring people. Therefore, wether socialist frugality is enforced is primarily an issue of whether the objective law of socialist economy is accepted and an issue of whether the basic interests of the proletariat and the other laboring people are valued. To lower this retirement age would violate the socialist principle of frugality.
>>2517589>>2517575Except they're not lynching minorities and nation-building racist apartheid regimes like The West™ was at that time.
>>2517613cope
>"By 2035, we will have finished building a high-standard socialist market economy in all respects, further improved the system of socialism with Chinese characteristics, generally modernized our system and capacity for governance, and basically realized socialist modernization,"http://en.moj.gov.cn/2024-07/19/c_1006331.htm >>2517611your literally the most patriotic american I have ever met in my entire life
>>2517642China good, USA bad
>>2517640There is no contradiction. You are a trotskyite who thinks, somehow, that presenting evidence that Communist China is achieving the furtherance and perfection of the most complete and advanced socialist economy in history hitherto means China is somehow not socialist. You are pathetic
>>2517654Cope and seeth fatso
>>2517663that why you "cope and seethe" in the big 25 lardass
The CPC centenary solidified my convictions in communism.
>>2517673Ok fattie
Remember China good USA bad
>>2517677That's kitsch crap, China is obviously something more than that rubbish
>>2517626They are simply more subtle and patient.
>>2517677Your "art" is garbage and indicative of your imperialist decay. Maoist proletarian political economic textbook say this about your degenerate, capitalistic "high art." In line with total political reaction, imperialism has also degenerated in its ideology and culture. In imperialist countries, publications and movies devoted to violence and sex have flooded the market. In California, there have been thirty companies specializing in making sex movies. In the capitalist world, strange clothing, modern dances, and “Beatles” music bands have been common, and exhibitions of “impressionist” art painted by monkeys have been much in vogue. International contests of women “crying” and crawling races for babies under a year old are reported to have taken place. The culture and art under imperialism have been rotten to the core.
>>2517575Nazoids trying to claim China is so funny, tell me which side Imperial Japan which massacred over 20 million Chinese was on again?
china can't even keep itself alive they're going extinct lmao
>>2517704I don’t think you like sex positions outside of missionary
>>2517722In China we don't decadent bourgeois sex positions. In China we have a list of party-approved proletarian sex positions. You are probably thinking of the position we call 革命者.
>>2517676you are literally american lol
>>2517726Sure I am fatso a most patriotic American I am just as you say
remember
China good USA bad >>2517740you are literally the most patriotic american lol
Wow i can't believe it took me this long to realize the china has no capitalism poster is a baiter/shitpostrr
>In a world so allergic to logic, China’s commitment to modernity feels less like politics and more like prophecy, a glimpse of what a truly 21st-century civilization could be. At this point, it might just be humanity’s last tether to sanity.
>>2517130I know the Middle East was. In fact they kept Aritstotle and Plato alive through translation, and the West would have otherwise lost their works forever.
>>2517566>>2517575(Platos's Republic of) China with its Marxist-Legalist governmnent structure is going to bring about the promises of the enlightenment, while failed western countries are stuck arguing about rites, rituals and performative routines are the most confucian states in the world.
>>2517704To be honest I only read the first sentence but couldn't get through your paragraph. Whoever you are, you must have a higher-autism score and post at a much higher level than I do, because I just can't follow it.
>>2518414You are replying to bait
China has a booming plastic surgery industry just like South Korea. Whats so great about it?
>>2518414>>2518905Correct. It is scientific proletarian bait to draw out and destroy the anti-Communists
>>2518926Based China is ending lookism and the blackpill by making everyone look the same
>>2518913Bordiga liked futurism.
>>2517116Don't many Chinese people believe in tons of spiritual woo woo even if they don't believe in traditional gods? Like those "spiritual but not religious" people in the West.
I don't think China is socialist but they're obviously the future and they seem to have a grip on financial vultures (for now) so they'll probably do well for themselves. Marx thought America was the future and Russia was the devil so there's nothing wrong with seeing some capitalist states as more progressive than others.
>>2518926>culture war sloptake it to USApol
>>2518926Good, in the future there won't be any pretty privilege and everybody ugly, average, beautiful will have a chance at the same life.
>>2519058Yes but spiritual woo woo has less importance and doesn't form the foundation of their worldview. A lot of people will pray or leave an offering to some random god for success for example, like leaving an incense stick on Guan Yu's altar if you're a businessman. But they don't believe that, for example, the Bible should be the primary source of information on everything, or that they must try to follow the Sunnah in every aspect of their lives, or that doing DMT takes you to the spiritual world. It's kind of the same as Chinese traditional medicine, in the sense that it's sort of a placebo/cope, like "I don't know how this business meeting is going to go but I left an offering to Guan Yu today so luck is on my side!"
Technically it's wasteful and superstitious but it's also minor enough to be insignificant, doesn't have much effect on society or politics and doesn't cause serious personal problems.
>>2517706It's not that we claim it. It's that we recognize that China achievements are because of having a highly racially and culturally homogeneous population with 110 average eye que and a class collaborationist govt the moderates the excesses of both capital and labor and puts them to work towards long term nationalist goals. We like that.
We want something like that in our own countries but commies and other such bad people stop us. I think China would agree with us. They probably wouldn't have any problem if any country went full natsoc. They would continue to trade, just like they continue to trade with Israel.
>>2519931>It's not that we claim it. It's that we recognize that China achievements are because of having a highly racially and culturally homogeneous population Typical clueless Western mutant understanding of the Eastern hemisphere. 1.4 billion people inhabiting a region almost as big and linguistically diverse as Europe, but nah it's all just Chinese they're all the same, just a bunch of little yellow people eating rice.
China's greatest "achievement" is not completely collapsing after the disastrous results of their planned industrial economy, and the way China achieved some semblance of stability and prosperity after that was by compromising and betraying most of their Marxist principles and becoming a capitalist country and riding on the coattails of other richer capitalist countries.
>>2519931Retard China is multilingual and multicultural and a class dictatorship you'd know this if you studied anything besides memes on Twitter.
>>2519956>le china is capitalistExplain why India is so far behind. India did all the same "capitalist" things yet fell behind. Gee it's almost like any marxist dictatorship will advance rapidly in comparison to capitalist countries if they're not strangled to death with sanctions and regime change ops.
>>2519968Because India is extremely ethnically and religiously divided with 80 average eye que ruled by a non-nationalist government that gives into the worst excesses of both capital and labor.
Literally the exact opposite of what I typed about China.
>>2519968Also South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan are other examples of high eye que, homogenous class collaborationist governments that rapidly industrialized. SK did it even faster than China. I've been to both China and Japan recently. I still prefer Japan to China.
>>2519968>Explain why India is so far behind. India did all the same "capitalist" things yet fell behind.It didn't "fall behind" shithead. Like China, India was conquered and colonized and exploited for hundreds of years by European empires and then after gaining independence from Western imperialism in the 20th century began a process of industrialization and rapid population growth and now China and India are the two most populous countries in the world whose adult population make up more than more than a quarter of the global workforce.
>>2520125It fell behind China because they started liberalization only in the 90s and also they half assed their liberalization. Even today, it's easier for both foreigners and citizens to start and run a business in China than India. In China you have a reasonable guarantee your business remains free from government bribes or exploitation. In India you have to pay massive amounts of bribes, not just when starting but every year just to keep your permits
>>2520133Not to mention India’s land reform when it was under INC was very half assed and left a huge amount of non prole peasants that have been holding development back
>>2520133Both China and India are gigantic multicultural meganations ruled by corrupt nationalist governments, China just had a head start on India in developing a capitalist economy and China's growth came from the West outsourcing their manufacturing sector to China after the 70s and India's growth was from the West outsourcing their IT sector to India after the 90s.
>>2520125Correction: China and India make up 35% of the global workforce, not 25%
>>2520150Just like Spanish manufacturing outsourced to the Netherlands and England in the 16th century.
>>2517473>Capitalist problems do not exist in Communist China.if that was the case the chinese would be giving those executives the death penalty for nothing
How does China keep you alive? Their food exports are relatively small.
Does anyone know if China can reverse population decline? I don't want India to be double or triple the population of China at the end of the century.
>>2520343uighas are nurishment for my spaghetti
>>2520347Automation.
>>2520469Automation will help cope with declining population, but what about reversing population decline itself?
>>2520491Should improve greatly if the work/academic culture can be made less intense, though either way the economic effect can be dealt with
>>2520086SK, Japan and Taiwan had massive amounts of American money poured in for post-war reconstruction. China on the other hand obviously didn't get so much from the Soviets. Also, these densely populated island/peninsula nations under the US military umbrella can't really be compared to an entirely self-sufficient large nation with vast remote rural areas. Though of course relying on the US so much is not sustainable and we can already see the decline of Japan and SK.
>>2517566>what is actually going on is a sort of technocratic, instrumental rationality. It's like… hyper-rationalized communism
>>2518197clearly an undercover secret agent from /r/ultraleft
>>2520787>China on the other hand obviously didn't get so much from the SovietsWhat? The largest transfer of industry in human history was from the USSR to China postwar.
>>2517598>China and, by extension, socialism, won. Wake me up when the workers councils have taken power and have orders for me.least retarded dengist
>>2520818Nonsense. The western left is full of sinophobes. In fact the western left has a giant weeb obsession like the rest of the western internet. It's hilarious that western leftists have hate boner for China while idolising a de facto one party capitalist state, whose ruling class are literally descended from fascists of WW2.
>>2520818That's not even accurate.
>>2520818that doesnt even make sense.
>China is the future because everyone over there is Atheist just like meand doesn't believe in no sky wizard, they're the hecking future!
>What? They still have folk religions and pray to numerous gods and put up offerings in the temples? They still have temples?
>Well, it's totally not like the KKKristofascist Abrahamics with a holy book, so it doesn't count and it doesn't matter, they're still the Atheist future!
What if I told you uyghas there are people going around claiming they can beat anyone in a fight with just their mental powers or that a good chunk of Mainland Chinese mix Buddhism with folk faiths? Would PRC still be the Atheist paradise to you?
>>2525804I rather have that than the protestant hellhole that is america
>>2525804Imagine getting your atheist card revoked because you threw a coin in a fountain, kek.
China is 99% atheist and it doesn't matter if people believe in some couple of superstitions, they are still atheists.
>>2525804>Would PRC still be the Atheist paradise to you?Yes. The party shouldnt put every spiritualist/schizophrenic in re-education camps. Only the violent and organized forms are a threat to society.
>>2525897Dayum, Hans sometimes drops trvkes, if that one is unedited.
>>2525804Being content with the seperation of church and state is the biggest mistake the west made on religious affairs. The church and other religious organisations are still private corparations that influences politics like any other capitalist. In China there is a domination of the state over private religious entities, "state-owned churches" if you will. So the people can believe in whatever they want, but malecious content will not effect the state apparatus
>>2525978dude stop saying 'the west' when you mean 'Amerikkka'. that is so annoying.
>>2526010(it's not true in Amerikkka either but at least they make a big noise about the concept)
>>2517677Socialist Art of the Americas
In Communist China, the millitary and citizenry are one. The people point their tanks at the enemies. In imperialist countries, the tanks are pointed at the people. In Communist China, every citizen is potential soldier with common duty to uphold Communism. In imperialism, all soldiers are unconnected to the people and are all PMC and bourgeois
In Communist China, the millitary is inextricably political and exist with explicit mission to serve the People. In imperialist country, the fascist unelected millitary is supposed to be apolitical but it always crushes the people. In Communist China, the Communist millitary hold seats in People Congress and budget is transparent. This is highest expression of Communist principle of "The Party commanding the gun"
>>2520341They are executed to prevent the resurgence of capitalism and capitalist problems. A proletarian manager who tries to cheat the socialist system is not yet a capitalist until the socialist system s destroyed and capitalism replaces it
>Around 93% of Chinese citizens identify as non-religious
That has nothing to do with reason. In China's case, it's the result of purging their entire society of all of its cultural heritage and burning all the books and destroying all the temples and banning all religion and threatening any who practice it or talk about it with imprisonment and death. Of course most of their citizens are going to identify as non-religious after a decade of that. And China is not this high-tech advanced sophisticated society you are making it out to be either, China is still far behind the West in terms of technological and social progress, less the half the population even have internet in their homes.
>>2520341You mistake the weed for the garden. The fact that the gardener uproots the weed is proof that it is a socialist garden and not capitalist wilderness.
>>2526094>less the half the population even have internet in their homes.Are you a time traveller from the 20th century?
>>2529025Only like 47% of Chinese households have a home internet connection, most people just use a smartphone for everything.
You clearly haven’t spent much time around the Chinese if you believe they’re not superstitious as fuck.
>>2529036Its called the leapfrog effect, where countries that weren't developed in the 90s missed out on home internet and just use their phones.
>>2529150China still is not developed in the 2020s. Maybe it would be different if their country were not so authoritarian and made more of an effort to build a free and open public internet infrastructure accessible to all of its citizens, but China does not want that kind of internet, they want a highly centralized and highly censored and closely monitored internet where people only use certain designated apps and go to certain designed websites, hence their preference for proprietary consumer technology like smartphones that are designed to not let you do anything but consume and also provide all kinds of convenient builtin functionalty for the government to track people.
>>2529221Wrong. Communist China is the peak of human development. China is not authoritatian.
>>2529258Putting down all liberal who stand to destroy Communism is the highest freedom. Nothing is more authoritarian than noisy liberals crowding the streets. The noisy liberal imposes his authoritarian will upon all of Communist society—in effort to negate all Communist freedom—when they demand overthrowal proletarian dictatorship.
>>2529258What the hell is going on in this vid?
>>2529284It's literally AI
>>2529284Chinese military gunning down protesters in the street
>>2529322>tfw you realize that the people crying about tinyman square are like nazi fags crying about 1945lmao, Deng do it again
>>2525808>>2525813>>2525895>>2525902>>2525978Would you uyghas be okay if priests if they were LE PEOPLE'S priests, trained by Glorious CCP?
>>2529370Sorry, but your race riot got pwnd
>>2529322 >>2529370>You literally WORSHIP China if you don't believe my CIA propagandaSo tired, get some new lines pls
>>2529370isnt that a thing in north korea?
>>2525804I don’t care as long as they stomp them when they get too big like Falun Gong
>>2529258You're retarded given that if you watch the video closely, the crowd flees but no one dies. There's one person who falls over, but there's no blood pooling. Probably tripped in panic.
Neoliberalism is so good at eliminating it's enemies it turned communists into state capitalists
>>2529258>protesters getting dispersedhappens literally all the time everywhere, including all the west retard. Just cause you call it a massacre doesnt make it one
>>2529221>muh authoritarian has anything to do with internet infrastructure>more of an effort to build a free and open public internet infrastructure accessible to all of its citizensyou admit everyone has a smartphone with an internet access, then say its does not count, you're just a retarded imperialist propagandist denying the reality right in front of your eyes
>>2517649>>2517642Please please, children. What's the point of fighting over who's amerikan if you're both gonna do it like poorly read amerikans?
You're both welcome here, we love this kinda bitch shit
>>2529423If you play the video backwards you can see the police help Rodney King up and send him on his way.
>>2529439>protesters getting dispersedMore like protesters' brains getting dispersed. I'm not an idiot I know what people being shot and falling down dead in the street looks like. And I'm not denying that the same thing happens in the West, there are countless publicized examples of protesters being gunned down by police/military in Europe and the United States, but I think we can all agree that this is textbook authoritarianism, no?
So true so real
>>2529621>>2529816Isn't it weird how you still completely ignore that it was a nazi race riot?
>>2529258>massacreI can’t see anything.
You would think the libs would have better footage of a massacre. This looks like it was filmed on a worse camera than the Patterson-Gimlin bigfoot film
>>2529277You would think they would have learn to love China, it couldn't possibly be that its a shitty place to live.
shooting non violent protesters with guns? Remember non violent protest in the west dont work so why do you need to shoot them?
>>2530758Liberals deplore breathing under Communism. Liberals only want to make things worse for workers, so violent, noisy liberals should be shot. The liberals' authoritarianism must be crushed
Kind of depressing how hard it's getting to find footage of the Tiananmen Massacre on the web with China's increased influence on big tech censorship. Only a matter of time now before it gets memory holed for good.
>>2530802>Liberals burn everything in sight to destroy proletarian democracyLiberal terrorists must be killed. If you disagree, say so plainly and stop pretending you arent fascist
>>2529258…Isn't this the AI-edited footage of Tiananmen posted by Visegrad?
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1973397619272568884 >>2530802>CNN footageLol. Though even in this video, you can see there's no massacre, or why aren't the people in the video being gunned down by the line of soldiers? There is, however, fires burning everywhere, originating from the molotovs thrown by protestors, which caused some casualties amongst the soldiers. Obviously the ones throwing molotovs were shot at.
>>2530763Yeah, Visegrad took the footage of that street from some other Western news agency and modified it - IIRC in the original, there are no soldiers in the distance milling around. It was a really shit job but ofc westoids believe the narrative more than their own lying eyes
>>2530879Same Visegard that jacks off the real footage of Palestine protesters getting knocked unconscious by Euroid police btw
>>2529370Yes, the power structure of the various churches in China is subordinate to the state and not the Vatican or some Patriarchate, hence they are always under control.
>>2530882 (me)
Like, its amazing how they have to edit Tianamen square footage with AI to make "authoritarian" China look like… themselves? Its like they know that their own behavior sucks.
>>2530882these are the peoplke behind the visegrad news. polish crypto-stormfag, and a polish/south african apartheid jewish
>Polish journalist Adam Starzyński has worked for the English service of the right-wing Polish television channel Telewizja Republika.[10][4] Starzyński is also known to have run a very conservative Twitter account, BasedPoland, which had 150,000 followers before Twitter deleted the account. Starzyński is a key figure in the MEGA movement (Make Europe Great Again), an informal movement similar to Donald Trump's Make America Great Again campaign that seeks to spread xenophobia and populist views.[4][10] The BasedPoland account was known for its anti-refugee content and praise of far-right political leaders, including the Polish government, Jair Bolsonaro, Matteo Salvini, and Viktor Orbán. Starzyński supports Ukraine and the European far-right on social media under the name Adam Starski. Starzyński has worked for the State of Poland Foundation since March 2020
>Tompson (born 1993 or 1994)[12] is a British communications manager of Polish and South African descent.[22] He grew up in London and Paris in a family of Polish émigrés.[12] He studied at the French Lycée in South Kensington, later transferring to Richmond Upon Thames College in Twickenham. He graduated from University College London in 2014.[22]
>Tompson has been working in Poland since 2014 and has been running an English-language YouTube channel about Polish history since 2020. He has received funding from the Polish Film Foundation and his videos have been published on the Visegrád 24 account. In an interview with Rzeczpospolita in September 2022, Tompson said that he created the Visegrád 24 accounts and maintains them together with his friends who work in the social media industry. He denied the claim that the video featuring Marin was the first to be published on Visegrád 24. He also considered the Prime Minister’s celebration at a time of geopolitical tension questionable and stated that he believed that many supported Finland’s NATO membership application only because “Sanna Marin is a beautiful woman”.[10] According to Tompson, liberal views are overrepresented on social media compared to conservative views. He condemned Viktor Orbán's pro-Russian views on the war in Ukraine, but stressed that Orbán's view of the West's identity crisis is correct and that spreading that view was not in the interests of Russia. Tompson works for the Polish public broadcaster Telewizja Polska.[4]
>In 2024, Tompson told The Jewish Chronicle that his support of Israel "is not an act of altruism, it is an act of self-interest" and that Israel "is at the frontline of the battlefield of radical leftists in Western democracies who have, for some reason, joined forces with the Russia-China-Iran bloc". He also stated, "Anyone who says it is an apartheid state in Israel and the Palestinian people are subjugated should go to Ramallah. There were Maseratis and Mercedes and a brand-new shopping mall. There is a booming upper middle class."[22]
>Tompson told Jewish Insider that he considers himself to be a public relations expert rather than a journalist.[12]
>Tompson is also associated with the MEGA ("Make Europe Great Again") pro-Trump group.[4] He has met with Matthew Tyrmand,[23] an American conservative commentator and former member of the far-right activist group Project Veritas,[24] as well as alt-right commentator and conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec. >>2530806It's memory holed by both camps because they both have an interest to present the protestors simplistically as liberals who were either ultra violent terrorists or heckin peaceful. In truth it was one of those multifaceted movements with western operatives yes but also people who had misgivings about the chinese neolib shock therapy. And it escalated into violence that killed many protestors and military because of on one hand you had some crazy protestors and bad actors and on the other hand the chinese government was simply incompetent. They had no clue on how to use the police to quell this kind of movement with minimal bloodshed, they sent the military and they did what the military does when there is violence. If it happened today you would see riot cops, water trucks, tear gas, flash bangs, kettles, the works.
>>2530886Lol why is a stormfag so pro-Israel
>>2530887True, water trucks would have prevented all that
>>2530887Or, you know, it was also a bunch of middle class libs that hated black people being in the same room as them.
>>2530900Thank you for proving my point about how both sides try to memory hole and muddy the waters, the truth is people bled out and were incinerated around the place and not in the square itself, there's hundreds of pictures that the western media doesn't like to show because they feature strung up soldiers showing signs of mutilation in fact.
>>2530902>not in the square itselfI accept your concession
Seriously tho, the libs trying to fight for a counter revolution because black students made them mad deserved it 100%.
I am ultra and even I say, Deng, do it again.
>>2517566Can I ask our resident youtube-sociologist why is every comment under a Chinese youtube video about the looks of the people in the video?
>>2530925Only thing sus is anti-china glowies or reactionaries from /pol/.
Materialist explanation for BBC causing a counterrevolution?
>>2531089So students protests in square werent caused by bbc then?
>>2531105Wiki says it was because of prostitutes
>>2531116Why was it anti-black then?
>>2531118Because black students tried to take prostitutes into dorms
>>2531123Whats wrong witht that? Is it because they are black?
>>2531124>ccp>not cpcyou glow
>>2531124>amit chaturvediIndia is chinas rival and would smear china
>>2531127>noo you can't misgender the ccpget a grip
>>2531129>noo it can't be true, it's indian slander!the chinese chauvinist is unsurprisingly racist against indians, cope
>>2531133So its not the first time eh? That chinese boss man from the "Empire of the dust" also gave me unpleasant vibes.
>>2531133Do you believe by posting stuff like this you will stop us dengGODS from supporting (cheerleading on the internet) the PRC? Do you think we are under the illusion they are perfect or something?
>>2517132eSStonia is a Teutonic, Germanic settler colony on an indigenous Russian land. Please refrain from posting about this "country" in a thread about China.
>>2531137> That chinese boss man from the "Empire of the dust" also gave me unpleasant vibes.Ever got yourself checked? Think you might be an empath.
>>2531123>Because black students tried to take prostitutes into dormsAnd let me guess, the chinese chauvinist liberals got angry because they was fuggin poor+innocent+pure chinese women?
>>2531164No, it was because a YOUNG black man RAISED his hand against an OLD ELDERLY SENIOUR man who worked there as a guard. Chinese people respect their elders.
>>2517116Well, the thing is: "religion" as we know it barely exists outside of the "Abrahamic" (loathe that term btw) world. Most traditional societies in human history did not have had religion as its own independent thing separate
from the state cults or traditional arts. It makes sense that China doesn't have much religion since the imperial Chinese state cult was largely destroyed by Chang Kay-Shek already, and the traditional arts becaming increasingly dissolved in the global capitalist culture.
>>2529816>More like protesters' brains getting dispersedplease show me the brain, but I guess not having one you dont know what it looks like
>I know what people being shot and falling down dead in the street looks likedo you now? because everyone who bothered to look into it would know there was no shooting on the square. There was shooting in the city (after there were lynched and burned soldiers), but the videos of the event do not show them (not that you'd know or care, you're just parroting propaganda anyway)
>we can all agree that this is textbook authoritarianismno, every state on earth will send police bash down people during riots, so either everyone is authoritarian and its a meaningless qualifier, or maybe police repressing a riot is not a good place to judge the authoritarianism of a state
now kys lib
>>2531211That is not enough. That chinese slut should be mating pressed by that black woman's son
>>2531213>thinks people are stupid enough to think tor nodes save cookies from normal browserGo post some more liveleak, shill
>>2531217Whats a cuckies?
You're a turd worldist sakaists if you claim that all white people are racist against black people btw.
>>2531219You are cuckies, licky, licky boots.
>>2531223You are the one in the browser therefore you are cuckies. I am a man
Dengchads are BBC 20 inch 🖤🖤🖤
No white shrimpies 🤏🏿🤏🏿🤏🏿🐷🐷allowed under communism
>>2531232I'm starting to see dengoids in a more positive light after witnessing mentally ill anti-dengists constantly spam and derail /isg/ & /usapol/ with their shitty sakaism but recycled for le chinaman.
>>2531235What are you talking about? I stayed on topic you schizo.
>>2530878I don't want to alarm you, but it's a dangerous game you're playing, acting like a qanon refusing to acknowledge proof that's right in front of your face. When you get into that habit you will eventually damage your brain's ability to distinguish reality from fiction and you will become permanently schizophrenic.
>>2531261I am not reading that deng elder scroll though
>>2531259Its an ai video posted by some xitter nazi account
>>2531269Based Deng, he saved the world.
>>2531116The wiki is wrong.
The actual article it cites doesn’t mention prostitutes.
Whats the relation between China's atheism and "christian uprising"? Christianity was never relevant in China. Its like if you were claiming rise of atheism in Israel is a hope against Buddhism
>>2531133That anon:
>India is chinas rival and would smear china<No racism present, no slur, absolutely nothing insulting towards Indians>the chinese chauvinist is unsurprisingly racist against indians, cope<Waaah you're racist against IndiansSo you're Indian? No fucking way, lmaoooo
>>2531169Why do you type like you're tabloid newspaper from 1996?
>>2531486>Public anger over a sharp rise in fuel prices in Angola triggered three days of violence, some of which was directed at the country’s large Chinese community. The violence destroyed shops, closed factories and caused thousands of Chinese residents to flee the country.Uhoh turd worldist sisters, we are sapparting race riots to own da dengoids
>>2531474You should know, the ACP discord is dominated by endians
saar china is real nazi saar
>>2531169>Chinese people respect their eldersWhy are they so spooky?
>>2530878>CNN footageThat was renowned BBC journalist Kate Adie. She was grazed by a bullet from the Chinese military while shooting this footage, I think her crew were the only Western media to get any eyewitness coverage of the massacre. Why would CNN have British accent narration? Are you just a complete imbecile?
Lol this uyghuh had a multi day meltdown after people realized he indian kekek
>>2517116China is just demonstrating what capitalism looks like when it's still industrially ascendant, while the West shows what it looks like when it’s reached the rentier stage, ie, when profit no longer comes primarily from production but from ownership.
>>2532077Chinese people are free to pee.
>>2532655Who are you quoting? Fucking modi schizo
>>2532663The fags who'd be fine with Sky Fairy worship if it's approved by the party?
>>253218219th century capitalism had a 98% home ownership rate?
>>2531259Where is the proof of the massacre that is supposedly in that video? If they gunned down all the students as they supposedly did, why are the soldiers just standing there? Then take into account the fact that the footage is from CNN and is thus curated to support a certain narrative.
>>2531979>the only Western media to get any eyewitness coveragestrange because i distinctly remember other british state media accounts stating the opposite
>>2531979CNN, BBC, same thing with a different accent.
>She was grazed by a bullet from the Chinese military while shooting this footageSo where is the footage of the bullet grazing her? I can't find even so much as an image of her graze online. Are you sure the BBC didn't just say that happened to add to the story? Nah, I'm sure the people who greyfilter all their footage of China would never try to manipulate events.
>>2532664Would you prefer for them to enforce atheism and illegalize all religion? Because somehow I get the feeling that you'd be crying about repression of freedoms if that happened.
China deals with the entity and thus enables it, so they are not all that great.
>>25326661950s western capitalism was prosperous too THOUGH
>>2517116China needs to make weed legal and only then will communism manifest itself
>>2517116>only major civilization>civilizationI know what you are
>>2517337AFD, and that other far left party, are the only ones speaking for the Germany's standing on it's own feet.
>>2534995Is this some kind of sharty soyjak hyperborea shit?
>>2534997They are ICEing the blacks, get it?
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