In the past, adhering to lookism helped me get ahead in life. I got a fancy job, dressed a fancy way, and people thought I was a normal member of the PMC. And it made me revile the human race even more than ever before. Because I saw humanity for what it was: a herd of cattle that devours the slop it is fed, only to vomit it out and recannibalise these humours. After a while, my bitterness for the human race turned to revolutionary ire, only for it die away into the aches of listlessness. I decided we were unfit for existence. We are a herd of dumb cattle that only know the barbed fences of society, we only think through the slave mentality branded onto us.
I saw how shallow and frivolous humans were. With all this talk about enlightenment and civilisation, we only thought with our fucking cocks. The "fairer sex" merely had to rub their cunts, like unthinking sows, to designate me a human or not. And we never care for people as they are, no; instead, we choose to section people off into these branded categories like grocery store items. So much for the heights of art! Who gives a fuck about the apotheosis of human endeavours, or the sciences, when people merely regurgitate the slop thrown at them? The undifferentiated gruel shat out by fashion brands and Hollywood movies and music corporations! Mmm! Tasty! I found people only cared about you if you could afford the same suit as an advertisement or get the same haircut as everyone else.
But the more I fixate on looks, the less I really care about them. They really are just appearances. When I was focused on being normal, I got a job, lost a lot of weight, lifted daily, and wore normie clothes. But I still felt horribly depressed and ugly to the core. What kind of society would breed this false adherence to the social norms of herd animals, of unthinking ungulates? The only time I felt comfortable was when I used presented as an effortless, slobby twink in band t-shirts. Welcome to the spectacle, where we make fashion statements about uniformity and the true individual is an 'ugliness' that must be stamped out by the same threads, the same brand of shoes, the same moisturiser.
Holy shit
Humans are not that far above animals
>>2526780as opposed to not doing anything about your appearance ? is that supposed to be closer to the "arts and science" like you say ?
>people are le cattleyou finally read about Crowd psychology and took it personally I assume. You can't have a social species if everybody is a quirky individual that follows their personal feelings all the time,that's just how it is.
Also this mean humans are malleable,since every change that gets enacted in society becomes the new status quo everyone adheres to,so there is always a potential to change.
"lookism" isn't "capitalist." it's existed in all societies ever. it probably existed in hunter gatherer humanity for the 190,000 or so years before we invented agriculture. it probably existed in proto-humans. Even in the Bible you see verses mention that the animals sacrificed to YHWH must not have blemishes. We practiced lookism even with our animal sacrifices.
>When I was focused on being normal, I got a job, lost a lot of weight, lifted daily, and wore normie clothes. But I still felt horribly depressed and ugly to the core.
This is the only part of your incoherent rant that really matters. You don't know who you are and you're afraid to find out so you try to be someone you're not, you allow your identity to defined by everyone else. The truth is, nobody really pays that close attention to you or your looks. Everyone is just as self-absorbed and clueless as you are.
>>2526869I found this rant coherent. The point you emphasized is important. I've been there. It's never enough, and you still sad. I realized what we really want deep inside is purpose and honest human relations.
Regarding humans being cattle who can't see beyond their noses… I'm conflicted about this. One part of me wants to believe that most humans can overcome the propaganda and see the truth. But curiosity seems to be a trait of intelligent people.
>>2526796Yes, but animals are more intelligent than you think. Modernity is a monstrosity regardless.
>>2526869>The truth is, nobody really pays that close attention to you or your looks.lol
I remember when I was this naive.
If you want to eviscerate your own worldview, put your little theory to the test and try dating apps ;)
>>2526897well yes if you explicitly ask people to rate you based on looks in an interface designed to facilitate exactly that mindset, they will do so. But in the real world, people are more self absorbed like the anon you are responding to was saying. Also you never know how much of those dating apps are just flooded with bots on purpose to lower peoples' self esteem. Capitalism is good at selling people stuff when their self esteem is low. Create a problem and then sell a solution. Emotional manipulation is increasingly automated now.
>>2526780Do you include yourself as lookist cattle or do you get with fat ugly women with great personalities.
>>2526894So we are actually below the animals? Makes sense
>>2526901this is a certified trvke, dating apps are a degraded endcase of human interaction and on the surface it's strange that some people build entire worldviews around how men and women interact on them as if a specific website can strip away all the civilization from the man to reveal the mate selection mechanism beneath.
in any case being unattractive is a very bad reason to be socially anxious (as in broadly, and most people need friends more than they need to fuck). actually, if you believe Tumblr, being male in general is a much more salient factor in being rejected in random interactions, but there are material reasons for this related to thread avoidance which you will never paper over by being a specimen.
>The only time I felt comfortable was when I used presented as an effortless, slobby twink in band t-shirts
Humblebrag thread.
>>2526780<Because I saw humanity for what it was: "Humanity" itself is a spook anon.
Anyway maybe you're too caught up in feeling a need to "belong" and being "recognized" instead of being.
The barbed fences of society are irrelevant because people have always lived in a world where our freedom and desire to live authentic lives (amidst the absurdity of existence itself) continuously brushes up against our environment, (emergent) power structures and institutions, and material limits.
I suggest hanging out with different people, in different places, and focus more on what you find meaningful.
Damn boy, you uglier than a motherfucker. A face even a mother couldn't love.
You think looking pretty is hard
>>2527232beauty is extremely labor intensive, personal routines can consume 30 minutes to several hours of a workday, huge chemical manufacturing chains and large sectors of the advertising and service economy are devoted to it
In the old days if you were a lonely alienated weirdo with no friends and you hated your family and you hated your life, you would just run away from home and never go back. Live by your wits on the streets, work odd jobs to get by, hang out with other dropouts and outcasts and learn from them, travel up and down the Mississippi River on a raft with uyghur Jim getting in all kinds of crazy adventures.
Nowadays the weirdos just kill themselves or go on shooting sprees. No imagination, no vision at all. People today are just boring and predictable and sad.
>>2527249You're always under surveillance nowadays anyways. You can't really escape even if you want to. Personally I'd rather LDAR than go on adventures anyways
>>2527248I have to admit i was a bit coy to do this, but OP was trying to generalize his personal experience to society so i also tried to make an "is" rather than "ought" general statement about society
it's true that personal styles can be very simple, and historically men have not tended to try to control the texture of their skin and hair as much as women which is where the self-directed time expenditure comes from
>>2527277Shave your neck hairs. Pluck your unibrow if you have one. That is pretty much all you have to do as a man besides wash your stank. If you go for a long hairstyle you don't even need haircuts.
>>2526860Peacock: the mogging pokemon
>>2527294nice, the comparison pics articulate something that i've not really had the words for in my personal taste, all trends come and go though and sculpted facial hair lines might go the way of powder wigs, who can really say
>>2527298to add to this i think it's basically technological in the same way as powdered wigs. for sculpted beards to exist there needs to be wide availability of very precise electric clippers that e.g. women and beardless men have no use for
>>2527249>No imagination, no vision at all. It also requires courage anon. As someone who's been there and about to do it again, it's not for everyone. You need an attitude where death is more acceptable than wasting away. Without choosing suicide over having to deal with living "freely" at all.
>>2527253"Mass surveillance" is an excuse not do to do anything. You see this in "conspiracy" spaces too. The "elite" control and know everything, etc. so why bother?
I've lived "off the radar" before including in big cities. The people who pretend "mass surveillance" prevents them from making choices (including dangerous ones) are cowards.
There's also "living on your own" and going innawoods but that too has always been fraught with danger. It's imo also a fantasy of avoiding (social) confrontation altogether, no different than simply "going through the motions" and copying what everyone around you appears to be doing because you're afraid of pushback. It reminds me a bit of how Foucault (I think) talked about how power becomes evident when it faces resistance.
If you live out in the middle of nowhere surviving off berries and whatever you can hunt you're also dependent on systems bigger than yourself that you do not fully control. Akulina Lykov (see the Lykov Family) for example ended up starving to death during winter time.
We can't live "outside" of the world, no matter where we are in the universe.
>>2526927Where can I find them? I'm not American so it's not the majority of people here.
>>2526927>Do you include yourself as lookist cattle or do you get with fat ugly women with great personalities.If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he married her and then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart
But if you make an ugly woman your wife
A-you'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ug-a-ly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you
>>2527074>still trying to create a hierarchy of inherent superiority/inferiority, but just flipping it upside down from the usual.missed the point award
gave the problem a new outfit award
the cycle continues award
>>2527323Just make the pretty girl your mistress
You know what is funny about this looksism thing the uggos make up. They think people are always automatically nice because you look good. Not true at all. People are fucking HATERS there are just as many people or more who will shit on you just because they are jealous.
>>2527363Like your competition will hate you by making them look white by comparison, the potential mates will hate on you for some sour grapes shit if they think they can't have you.
Usually I find only ugly people who have made peace with that are the ones I can get along with the most because they don't feel they are competing with you or for you.
>>2526780I used to think poor reactionaries were entitled to their opinion but they’ve caused so much damage. I no longer believe the Empire can be saved.
>>2527366> look whiteFucking autocorrect shit*
>>2527363an ugly face often bears an uglier personality
>>2527369Not in my experience
>>2527366>Usually I find only ugly people who have made peace with that are the ones I can get along with the most because they don't feel they are competing with you or for you.I forgot to mention, people who are below your league but think they can bag you have the tendency to do that uyghING ship out of insecurity. Women too. It is not even a conscious learned strategy. It is like some shit they are naturally driven to do out of insecurity.
>>2527375uyghing. Fucking word filter
>>2527377>>2527377Neg and then the ging.
>>2527317>"Mass surveillance" is an excuse not do to do anything.I think anon has a point though and the modern-day surveillance state does present one major problem - when you get out of the system and live outside of it long enough you're barred from rejoining it. The system is designed to keep outcasts out and exterminate them, so once you're out you're out. No credit, no title, no qualifications, a lengthy arrest record, etc. That is primarily what scares people into towing the line and playing the roles that they are assigned, knowing that if you fall out of the system you can't get back in.
>>2527363It's like imagining people are automatically nice to you because you drive a Ferrari, or wear luxury clothing, or are the only kid at school with the new Gameboy or something. People aren't actually nice to you just because you have something they want.
>>2527323this is the wisdom incels never want to admit is true. they feel entitled to a 10/10 who will walk all over them
>>2527336>>2527353Don't cheat. Bad advice. The wife and the mistress will find each other and team up against you. And rightfully so.
>>2527407I never learned how to talk to other people so I will always be a ghost. Too autistic and mental to procreate.
>>2527431You're talking to someone right now while pretending you're unable to. Embrace your own ability to change and grow and stop using your shortcomings as a deterministic excuse to not even try.
>>2527500there is wisdom to what you say. you rightly call for self reliance and comfort in solitude in society that rewards constant attention-seeking. it's also true that relationships aren't a solution and can creat their own problems. I think people should be less transactional in relationships. relationships can be good though. humans are social animals. relationships will never have a perfect balance of trade and it's wrong to treat them that way. we pay things forward. if you're lucky enough to have good guardians, biological parents or otherwise, who didn't abuse you, who were able to keep you safe, feed you, clothe you, and eventually teach you to be self reliant and go out on your own, you can't really pay them back perfectly in a tit for tat transactional way. you have to pay it forward.
relationships, when healthy, can serve as a profound support system, offering connection, empathy, and shared experiences that nurture growth. there's also nuance in the idea that seeking love and connection isn’t always about avoiding personal work. sometimes it’s about mutual development and comradery in a shared journey of growth and increasing self reliance. people should be "inter-dependent" and mutually reinforce each other while still maintaining self reliance and not becoming "co-dependent" i.e. locked in toxic relationships they can't get out of.
>>2527839funny picture but just world bullshit in the end
>>2527839lowkey true, i think bitter people fail to care for themselves and look even shittier as a result. if you dress well, take care of your skin, smell nice and have a good disposition you can still take advantage of the halo effect, unless you literally have elephantiasis.
>>2527839Depressed != Bitter
>>2527253>LDARWhat does that even mean?
>>2527903Lay down and rot. Or rest whichever sounds better to you.
>>2526889>Regarding humans being cattle who can't see beyond their nosesIt's not so much that humans are cattle, they're just preoccupied with an infinite multitude of other things. People have their own lives and live in their own worlds with their own problems and concerns, they don't have time to go around inspecting and judging every single stranger they see.
The way we interact with individuals is different from how we interact with small groups and large groups. This is the foundation of the spectacle. It's also why one death is a tragedy and a million deaths is a statistic. Attractiveness signifies health in a preindustrial age and gen bravo will have all kinds of chemical and biological hacks to looksmax themselves. Just like obesity is being phased out, so will ugliness. The idea with fashion is to distribute robotic means of production so that everyone has bespoke and custom clothes and accessories. Hair is a harder problem and will probably still depend on human service workers.
>The "fairer sex" merely had to rub their cunts, like unthinking sows, to designate me a human or not.
I chortled at this. Just hang out with cool girls blackpilled anon.
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