I haven't been keeping up with Nick Land but he's been making a lot more public appearances on like a bunch of different faggy podcasts and it's like what the fuck happened to this guy
>National Liberalism, time angels, divine providence?
He's completely defanged his entire project and it just comes off as more gay christian hermetic stuff
Also yea I know a lot of people on here don't like acceleratonism and think its retarded and stuff but idk I still think his early stuff is cool
he's literally a christian now
>>2527300The last time I saw anything by Land was an article about how Singapore was an autism score shredder than took in high autism score couples and destroyed their fertility which was problematic for NRx types because they loved Singapore and the whole notion of city-states run by pro-market autocrats.
>>2527300Didn’t this guy kill himself or I’m I thinking of another Nick? Or possibly some other brooding Marxist guy?
>>2527311How does he justify that?
i think the current ruling clique is looking to purchase organic intellectuals, and want something that melds together their evangelical agenda and the new age aesthetics of silicon valley (the main bourgeoisie faction that props up this government) and nick land, already a darling of tech fascists, is propping himself up by embracing all this christianity bullshit because his intellectually void philosophy needs only to pick up some new buzzwords that ring of christianity to work this exact synchretic philosophy.
also why are all of these fascist intellectuals are so fucking gay, is the real question. the xitteroid was not joking when he said land was puppy girl coded. i dont even know what that means but nick land wearing kitten kneesocks feels appropriate.
nick land has become a christian…..LOL
>>2527870>>2527928he justifies it by seeing the KJV as a holy book, along with all english protestant literature. he determines this by applying alphanumeric qabalah to iambic pentameter.
>>2527906So much words just to say nick land is a transwahman
>>2527927Edgy post left transwahman are all christcucks in the end
This guy makes me think we need more coomers and porn addicts instead of whatever dumbshit he believes in.
>>2528101so hes just like uncle ted?
>>2528102HRT could have saved them….
cant stand this transsexual soteriology that only if we castrated ourselves we would be saved from sin.
>>2528115you sound like you need hrt
TO ALL JUDGES
>>2528115I gonna get ban for this, but the whole transsexualism things is stupid and ridiculous, I see as a disorder of the self concept.
>>2527854That was it, it was mark fisher. Thanks Anon!
>>2528152How? Other than what
>>2528160 pointed out (becoming a "woman" as the path to transcendence) I can see why "transgenderism" appeals in how it is empowering. It's an assertion of autonomy, of will, and if you can become a woman (thus rejecting others insist is your "essence" as a "biological male"), what else can you be?
I've noticed the most rabid anti-trans "socialists" are often those who have the most eschatological, religious and essentialist view of communism in general. (See CBP-ML)
>>2528187>transsexualism is anti-essentialistits the complete opposite.
>>2528189I can see why; on the one hand you're rejecting the "essence" of your "biological sex" in determining your 'gender', but on the other hand, what then does it mean to "become" the opposite gender?
There's also those who assert they're simply affirming who they already are.
That doesn't exclude however that "trans women are really just men" (especially when you can't tell at first glance) is itself a form of "essentialist" argument. And also ignores the social dimension of gender; can a man for example suffer misogyny?
I think a more coherent view is; you can be socially a "woman" and 'biologically' a "man" (or at least partially). But when it comes to how people are treated and how they conduct themselves, it's the social dimension that matters.
An android (or gynoid) which looks like a woman and behaves like a woman is still a woman. Which goes back to "one is not born, but rather becomes a woman".
As long as esoteric garbage like this is given even the time of day, they are winning and Marxists are losing
>>2528196to be transgender means identifying as the opposite sex because of the belief in a sexed soul which is in misalignment with one's body. the secularisation of this is in the disproven concept of sexed brains corresponding with sexual identity. there is even no such thing as a gay gene; being gay is simply an essential identity - it is to be what one must be.
the existentialist point on cisgender identity is also lost in your point by a false binary. a cisgender person in their very identity, are identifying from a place outside of their assigned sex, since if one was simply "born a woman", she wouldnt have to "try" to be a woman - it is this displacement of the cisgender person from their conformity to a standard which is thus the concrete nature of transsexual experience. to "be a man" is only a becoming of what one can never be, for example. an ancient example of this is in the iliad (800 B.C.) where (iirc) hektor taunts diomedes by calling him effeminate for deciding not to fight (after already slaying hundreds). so here, your gender is not about what you do, but about what you dont do. in the same way, boys are homophobic before they even comprehend homosexuality. for example, a boy calls another "gay" or a "faggot" if they *dont* perform a task (most typically) and so it has this inherently negative dimension - to not be a man is to be a "woman" of sorts, and this is where i think much homosexuality comes from; from internalising the signifier of homophobia. transsexuality is different and more controversial, so i will leave that out.
but basically, to be cis is to not-be your own gender, and so its this "gap" which gives determination to it. the homosexual is more existential since they recognise this deficit in their own experience, which is also symbolic castration. being a man then means playing a game where everyone pretends to be a man. so, as a cis male, i also recognise the validity of transsexualism, but dont hystericise it in the same way.
>>2528209> for example, a boy calls another "gay" or a "faggot" if they *dont* perform a task (most typically) and so it has this inherently negative dimensionI think this is only true for certain cultures. Accusing men of not being real men or being 'women' is more universal.
I do get where you're coming from; the idea of sexed brains is essentialist and continues to be brought up. And yes I've also considered to what extend "gender" can even exist outside of its social dimension. Which is basically not at all. A sole person in empty universe has no gender. Neither does one locked up in a room with their only access being a terminal and no idea there are people of the other sex.
Gender conformity is always an expectation and performance.
But regardless of this, being "anti-trans" to the point you insist people should stay in their lanes and conform (as espoused by the CPB-ML and other "socialist" parties) is way more essentialist and outright reactionary. While failing to be a rejection of gender essentialism itself.
>and this is where i think much homosexuality comes fromI can only speak for myself, but my attraction to guys is a bit different from women, but has nothing to do with internalized homophobia or not seeing myself as a "real man" (or alternatively a woman). At times its more like a desire to be more like another man, a kind of admiration that turns into desire itself.
I don't have this with women, in the sense that even if I admire them I don't 'physically" want to be like them.
Coming from a very homophobic culture, I'm also convinced male homophobia in adulthood has more to do with a fear of being raped and sexually dominated (the way a man ought to dominate a woman), thus confusing sexual hierarchies, and the threat of a (gay) son as avatar of the father shaming the latter by both failing to conform to a masculine ideal (especially the fear they become 'dirty' and a 'woman' by being the 'receptive' partner) and denying them the symbolic immortality of a male lineage (under patriarchy).
>>2528258>But regardless of this, being "anti-trans" to the point you insist people should stay in their lanes and conform (as espoused by the CPB-ML and other "socialist" parties) is way more essentialist and outright reactionary. While failing to be a rejection of gender essentialism itself.it all depends. i think "staying in your lane" allows for the possibility of subversion, while being transsexual often means conforming to what is projected onto the opposite gender. its theoretically troublesome to me in a way that being gay is not, since being gay means inhabiting the space of subversion, while a transsexual cannot subvert, but only invert. regardless, people should do what they want, and all the rest of it.
>At times its more like a desire to be more like another man, a kind of admiration that turns into desire itself.i think all men have this (the so-called "male gaze"), like how muscly men exist in media for other men to be attracted to (since its not really for women). there is the cynicism of the high school nerd who says "you like sports? you like men chasing each other? sounds gay". yes, but no. the homosexual appears to sexualise standard male relationships, while this is denied to thw heterosexual, but only by the medium of implication. i think there is homoeroticism between all men, but turning this into homosexuality is very different. the gay fetish of "turning" straight men has truth in its fantasy, but its not so straight-forward.
>I don't have this with women, in the sense that even if I admire them I don't 'physically" want to be like them.well, autogybephiles have this as an expressly heterosexual male phenomenon (which is why being trans and being gay can be opposites).
>the threat of a (gay) son as avatar of the father shaming the latter by both failing to conform to a masculine idealwell its strange since as camille paglia says, its gay men who idolise masculinity while its straight men who idolise femininity, so masculinity is formalised by gay men.
Anyone who thinks Nick Land is a christian is a moron. Nick Land always changes his position out of boredom.
>>2528269this is interesting. I have always been a bigly twinkish male, and this year started grooming myself more like a woman, occasionally wearing clothes made for women, and have flirted with the idea of getting on blockers or hormones, but I still wanna date woman.
>>2528292look up "autogynephilia"
also, as a femme heterosexual myself, its quite normal these days to counter-signal for women
>>2528071it's actually two separate ideas if you actually manage to work your brain into being able to comprehend 200 words at once
i forget didn't this guy start off as some weird avant garde techno libertarian socialist ?
>>2528372he was never a socialist
but he was marxist
>duginunder communism it will be legal to hang evolaists from street lamps
>>2528152>a disorder of the self concept.what is a healthy self-concept supposed to look like?
>>2528415Yea he had a maoist phase for a few years, wasn't very fond of MLs
>>2527300> a lot of people on here don't like acceleratonismIts seems like a primitivist project and I consider them reactionary. We need to forward not backwards back to feudalism.
>>2528101So many of the bourgeoisie and petite-bourgeoisie make their own personal neuroses and psychodramas everyone else's problem. It's not really more complicated than a crazy drunk on the street but they have way more fucking power and can be intensely destructive with their petty bullshit. It's mildly curious but everyone has brainworms. Capitalists sometimes having brainworms isn't the real problem with capitalism.
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