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Gegenstandpunkt is a Marxist theory group and journal founded in Munich, Germany, in 1992. Prior to 1992, they were known as the Marxist Group (MG) and published a journal called Marxist Debate and Journal – Against the Costs of Freedom (MSZ). According to the 2018 Federal Report on the Protection of the German Constitution: "The sect-like organized group ‘GegenStandpunkt’ (GSP) represents a modified concept of Marxism. It rejects parliamentary democracy as ‘the perfect form of bourgeois rule’. Its aim is to revolutionarily overcome the existing state and social order and establish a socialist or communist society. Due to their elitist interpretation of Marxism, the group is largely isolated on the far left."

Gegenstandpunkt, as far as I know, criticizes Lenin's view of Marxism. They reject the “actually existing socialist” states, the USSR and Marxism-Leninism, claiming they deviated from Marxism.

Unfortunately, since I haven't read Gegenstandpunkt's writings yet, I couldn't explain their theories and ideas in more detail in this post. Most of their writings are in German, but you can find English translations of a few of their works online. You can view and read their writings on these two sites:

https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/
https://de.gegenstandpunkt.com/

Dont know if ddr anon is still here, he could answer. It sometimes gets namedropped in germanspeaking leftwing circle. Dont know anything else

>>2529719
>It rejects parliamentary democracy as ‘the perfect form of bourgeois rule’.
And they propose what instead? Even Lenin was a republican on this issue.

>>2529719
>claiming they deviated from Marxism.
Oh its one of these dogmatist groups.

>>2529783
Least transhumanist obsessed /pol/ chud.

yeah this sect is really of interest, hopefully their one and correct reading of saint marx organically wins the soul and mind of the working class

>>2529719
>ultra sect that has been around since at least the 80s
distraction + police informants

>Mythic view of communism and jerking off to their membership of the chosen Elect results in insular monastic cultism
I checked the articles. Shitton of geopol/"antiimperialism" (as expected). It appears they have a mag of sorts but reading the titles, the latest edition is mostly focused on geopol and imperialism too. The English articles I checked also feel pointless. In that you're led to believe it's all building up to something, but it never gets to the point (E.g. what is to be done, what can be done, how this changes the struggle, etc.) and I haven't found any "fresh" takes either.
I know people criticize WSWS and gigalibs like Judith Butler. But this is much much worse.

12 belgian boys working overtime
same thread on leftychan btw

Gegenstandpunkt is Marxism gone too far

> Its aim is to revolutionarily overcome the existing state and social order and establish a socialist or communist society.
>Due to their elitist interpretation of Marxism, the group is largely isolated on the far left.
of course

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I still prefer Solarpunk, but everyone has their own tastes.

I occasionally read their articles and have gotten some insight from that, especially on the nature of the state. However it is genuinely funny how their acolytes, when pressed on what is to be done, will always fall back on old reliable 'raising awareness'.
They come off like a parody of left communism a ML would come up with.

>>2529719
there's also ruthlesscriticism.com which hosts several English translations of their articles


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