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Nobody cares about "revisionism". Nobody cares if you think socialism ended in the USSR in 1953 or whatever. Nobody cares about your position on debates and splits that took place decades before they were born. What people *do* care about is that socialism and can solve the problems that face them, like poverty and colonialism. I've seen people here ridicule the notion that socialism is helping people but there is really no other way to build power. People did not follow Lenin because he had the right ideas but because the Bolsheviks were the only conceivable solution that didn't end in what would later be known as fascism. Why does the CPC have near-universal approval in China? Because their system works and it provides for the people. Almost nobody there wants to return to the days of the Cultural Revolution. And where is anti-revisionist cause celebre Albania today? Now just another NATO puppet state. The entire concept of "anti-revisionism" is anti-materialist because it puts ideas before people. It doesn't matter if you have the right ideas because Marxism was never about having the right ideas. What matters is having the right practice. Here's another truke: If your system can be undone by a single bad actor with mere decrees, then maybe it was useless and was never going to make it in the first place.

you were right until you said some dumb shit about communism being about literally anything but the strictly proletarian struggle lol

Ideologues like to claim credit for all social progress in the world, but the real work is done by regular people who aren't academics or intellectuals and often don't have any particular ideology at all, they're just simple working class people who finally get pissed off enough that they decide to take matters into their own hands. All these supposedly "socialist" countries in the world didn't get that way because some politicians decided to implement socialism as a national policy; they got that way because a bunch of barely-literate enraged factory workers and railroad workers and coal miners fought in the streets with cops and strikebreakers and got beaten with clubs and gassed and shot and thrown in jail and they continued fighting and striking until the ruling class finally backed down and caved to their demands.

This exact argument is why no one gives a shit about socialism in most countries on the planet, either because capitalism is already doing fine, or because the socialists are actively attempting to make things worse (mass immigration, dumb anti-growth policies)(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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>dude theory doesn't matter, only day to day problems matter
unironically the same shit socdems and reformists would say over a century ago before they crushed every revolution they could. this is how it starts.

>>2532127
Dumb idiot that hates reading

>>2532299
>mass immigration
>>>/pol/

>>2532322
>we have nothing to say about the most important issues of our times
>>>/irrelevance/

>>2532333

I think it's probably a safe assumption that anyone who thinks immigration is "the most important issues of our times" is probably a racist and an idiot.

>>2532333
>>2532299
kys larouchite

>>2532098
Sounds like being accused of revisionism gets you butt blasted.

China is doing good building the material basis for socialism but due to pushing nationalism over class struggle they’ve only delayed the inevitable rupture that must occur. And while ever private means of production persist in China they’ll act as a corrupting influence on the party.

>>2532299
Damn you're a retard

>>2532098
Revisionist.

>>2532127
ᴉuᴉlossnW speech bubble?

>>2532098
How do you do the right things without first having the right ideas? You have a blue print and then you make a house.

>And where is anti-revisionist cause celebre Albania today?


How was Albania anti-revisionist? I'm unfamiliar with this argument.

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>>2532098
Dogmatism is a disease that prevents scientific Marxism from developing. That said their fanaticism makes them more reliable in hard times (like now after USSR) than revisionist.

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>>2532670
>"It would take a long time to list what Lenin and Stalin understood about Marxism and what their like-minded colleagues did not, but we will touch on just one mere "trifle," which nevertheless seems extremely significant. We are talking about the connection between the fate of commodity production and socialism. A connection that is either long-term but temporary, or organically inherent in socialism and therefore ineradicable. If someone chooses the first answer, he is an undoubted Marxist; if he hesitates and is at a loss, he cannot yet be considered one; if he chooses the second answer, he is an opponent of Marxism. But it was precisely in this direction that the entire atmosphere among professional economists, created from the late 1950s and maintained until the late 1980s, when the collapse followed…" - Richard Kosolapov


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