/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

A brief interview with the author and biographical details.
NOW WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES.

=ANARCHISTS WANT TO HAVE A STATELESS ROBOT DICK NOW !=

Are you Bulgarian OP?

>>2534031
Ако си българин можеш да се присъединиш в диалог с ФАКБ и някои от движението НТН в координация с Федерацията чрез страницата на сайта https://anarchy.bg с описаните контакти. Има публичен сървър за връзка със симпатизанти и критици.

>>2534033
Благодаря за информацията другарю. Ще я прегледам, макар че в момента съм извън България.

>>2534048
>макар че в момента съм извън България.
Няма проблем, има и българи извън България в комуникационният сървър, както има и два канала за англо-говорящи и руско-говорящи за момента.
Само имай предвид, че нарочно е използван дискорд като средство, защото е най-разпространен и достъпен, не се очаква никаква поверителност, то е чисто и единствено за комуникация с публиката извън организациите и структурата на ФАКБ - или както му се вика за PR (Public Relations).

Също така съдържанието на статиите в сайта не винаги е относително съобразно с позициите на ФАКБ, а е на обща "анархисткo настроена" и контра-информационна тематика, както едно време имаше indymedia. Целта на т.нар. анархо портал е главно да се дава информация различна от тази която се пробутва от статутвото и главните медии с цел градивно да се припознават хората към анархо-комунизма.

Technology is not a solution to social problems.

>>2534088
>Technology is not a solution to social problems.
Social freedom is inherently linked to material freedom. Social problems are dependant on the material conditions upon which we live. Nonetheless that is not what the book claims and it is highly recommended to learn to read past the title of the post. :)

I will be leaving the rest of this thread's discussion to run its course on its own. For further contact visit page:
https://www.anarchy.bg/контакт/

>>2534140
<The bureaucracy is the state formalism of civil society. It is the state's consciousness, the state's will, the state's power, as a Corporation. - Karl Marx, 1843 Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right
Leave Marx to answer how the administration of things after the supposed withering away will manage large supply chains without bureaucracy. And what an answer that tweet has, almost seems inclined to piss off any agitator who scoffs at the notion of using the existing market economy as a means, as if the bolsheviks didn't buy their arms, munitions, clothes but all was done by planning for the sake of purity in the name of God of Planning Production Bordiga from the very beggining! Had the Germans not provided with material and financial support the bolsheviks to destabilize Russia during WWI?
<On December 17, 1917, there appeared in a Moscow newspaper an attack on Red Cross colonel Raymond Robins and Thompson, alleging a link between the Russian Revolution and American bankers:
<Why are they so interested in enlightenment? Why was the money given the socialist revolutionaries and not to the constitutional democrats? One would suppose the latter nearer and dearer to hearts of bankers.
<The article goes on to argue that this was because American capital viewed Russia as a future market and thus wanted to get a firm foothold. The money was given to the revolutionaries because
<The backward working men and peasants trust the social revolutionaries. At the time when the money was passed the social revolutionaries were in power and it was supposed they would remain in control in Russia for some time!

>>2534140
Thesis: State Bureaucracy

Antithesis: Stateless Adhocracy

Synthesis: Stateless Bureaucracy

>>2534000
how long have you held this position OP? what made you come to this belief?

Is it just something on my end or does the pdf miss a few letters where ligatures are supposed to be (di erent, bene cial, signi cant)? More nitpicking: The quotation marks are inconsistent, sometimes American style, sometimes German style.

Page 7 (emphasis mine):
<The editorial board welcomes any objective criticism, additions and motivated reductions of the ideas laid out in this brochure.
Good phrase. I have never seen this bit I highlighted here before with political groups asking for inputs, as obvious as it is. Speaking of words that can be cut out…
Page 13 (emph. mine):
<Unfortunately, revolution cannot be completed without „anti-constitutional“ revolutionary violence.
Because this is literally the next sentence:
<Whether it takes the form of a bloody civil war or ends with the voluntary capitulation of social parasites depends entirely on the ruling class – on its willingness to put an end to its own domination and plunder and live like the liberated lower classes.
Page 14 (emph. mine):
<Perhaps the first states were ordinary bands of outlaws…
Perhaps this is because of the translation, but it sure feels funny to me to talk about outlaws existing prior to the state.
Page 15:
They use the term "goods" and then add a footnote to assure the reader they don't want to imply commodities with that. I would just use the term "products" instead.
Page 20 (emphasis in original):
<doubled volume of scientific-technical information in the course of 3 to 10 years
No idea what measure they used, but it can't be a useful one.
(Again, emph. in original):
<The automation of isolated sectors no longer seems possible. Once automation has begun in one enterprise, it quickly spreads through the entire industry because in capitalist society a refusal to automate entails the loss of competitive advantage, of agony and definite bankruptcy. The same holds true for competition between industries within a national market economy, or between „national“ capitals on the world market.
I don't believe in what's just asserted here without an argument because capitalists aren't horny for producing a lot of some use-value, they do it for profits. An innovation bringing massive savings in production costs in a specific sector mean temporarily high profits there, then competition coming in and lowering both prices and profits in that sector. (This might be slowed down a lot due to patents, but patents don't last forever.) I see no reason to assume a sector where shit can't get automated will have lower profits in the long run.
Page 22:
<Sticking within capitalism, we are headed to a world of 40 – 70 % unemployment in overdeveloped countries.
Asspull number.
<The overall percentage of unemployment is already high…
So the current number is…?
<…well beyond…
Beyond which number?
<…European youth.
That's not a number.
<The prospect of having such a vast majority of the active population pushed out of controlled economic, technical, scientific and cultural processes evokes horror among the masters that they can hardly contain.
No. Most of the ruling class don't believe in such an extreme scenario. There is a small minority of brain-fried Silicon Valley druggies that seem to be pretty open and giddy about doing a giga-holocaust, but these people are increasingly recognized as lolcows, like Peter Thiel. People only nod along with their nonsense (for now) because these freaks have money (for now).
Page 22/23
<BLAHBLAHBLAH the „final solution“ applied in Nazi Germany and Stalin’s GULAG BLAH
Can anyone give me a reason why I should continue reading this 🙄

>>2536476
>Perhaps this is because of the translation, but it sure feels funny to me to talk about outlaws existing prior to the state.
Pretty sure laws existed prior to the state, after all it takes only a group of persons to coexist to establish laws and only a few to enforce.

>>2536476
>Asspull number.
Yuo dare dou t THE WISDOM OF GEORGI KONSTANTINOV? Ill tell uyo what the number Is
its the european youth, now y u go count them .YOU GIVE THE SOURCE.

>>2536509
Da source will arribe when ze robots take da jobbs :DDD benis

>>2536476 (me)
Continuing with this text that lacks sources (and a couple footnotes are missing), because I hate myself and I also hate you, the girl reading this.
Page 23:
<Under state capitalism, declassee „disposables“ lined up the constantly growing petit bureaucracy. Among other „good“ uses, state agencies made good incubators for dead souls. I every „office“ – often a room the size of a prison cell, a few „servants“ would sit around the semblance of desks, busily filling bottomless casks of bureaucratism and spitting spite on those „brethren“ whom the paper current had dragged onto their „desks“.
*I nod as I scribble this down, doing the sarcasm marks with blood from cutting myself.*
Page 32, proposing how things will be done:
<decisions are made with consensus
Does not scale. Author specifies that he usually means consensus only among those who have to carry out a decision. I think people should just use a specific term for that like doer consensus.
Page 36:
The commune sends a delegate with imperative mandate.
<A commune can send more than one delegate in case that up to the start of a federal congress or conference its General Assembly has not achieved a unanimous position on a topic of the agenda.
Strange idea. If they already have a consensus position, why even send a delegate instead of just the voting data? A commune of 50 has a consensus position a) for topic X, so just send 50 votes for a), no? Likewise, if among those 50 it is 24 who want a) & 16 want b) & 10 want c), just send votes in proportion to that. Imagine the commune has 20 opinions and then has to send 20 delegates. And with some voting schemes you can rank alternatives. How does this work with delegates, will we delegate dwarfs stacked on top of each other to represent a ranking?
<delegates will no longer need to gather at a specific physical site as they can communicate online
Why then even talk about the commune sending a delegate and the commune possibly revoking the imperative mandate at any time? Online voting means an individual can delegate and revoke the vote.
Page 38:
<The goal of punishment is to requite the victim or their relatives for the harm done by the offender. Punishment gets harsher for subsequent offenses.
Contradictory. If a person does a bad thing to a victim and then the same bad thing to a second victim, it seems logical to assume that the punishment, if based entirely on helping the victim, would be the same size in the second case as in the first.
Page 39:
Talk about the public at large having the right to arm themselves, people's militia instead of professional police and army (agree with this).

I'm skipping over the historical stuff about Anarchism in Ukraine and Spain.

Page 46 and on:
Now comes future economic structure. Pretty vague, gestures at producer councils and consumer councils.
Page 50 (emph. in original):
<4 hours seems the most suitable length of the workday
This does not really increase free time proportionally, because of commuting time. So I'd rather want a reduction in the number of work days.
Page 52:
<cutting profit by 30%, the capitalist would be able to pay their doubled staff salaries as well as all necessary social benefits, special clothing, harm reduction expenses and compensations
Again an unsourced number.
Page 53 (italics in original):
<according to need for products and services in economic areas where production capabilities and resources allow for the communist principle to be introduced;
<equal distribution of scarce products and services, prioritizing children and the sick.
There is no reason to assume that products would neatly fall in one of two categories (this is a mental abstraction and simplification like a person being either fat or thin). Author gives no argument why we shouldn't use consumer budgets and pricing based on labor time.
Page 57:
<Scientific-technical progress will proceed at a speed directly proportional to the amount of allocated resources and the number of scientists and engineers engaged in science and technology.
Another asspull statement, but this one is special because I'm lacking a clear measure of scientific-technical progress, so I see no way to disprove this.
Page 60:
<In result of global robotization and digitalization, all spheres of social life will change in the coming decade, 2020-2030.
Author means above in the sense of bringing us closer to anarcho-communism… There's a dig at Aristotle on the same page (seems to be a misunderstanding).
Page 63:
Against copyright (agree with this).
Page 64:
<The development of the full potential of 3D printers alone would suffice to destroy today’s market system based in monetary transactions.
Absurd hype, followed by an unsourced claims about printed houses "with electrical installation". Like what, that was printed as well?
Page 67 (emph. mine):
<Nazism is the lower phase in the development of Bolshevism…
WTF
Page 75 to end:
The section notes that longer delegation chains are problematic, so imperative mandate only seems to work on the small scale. What's the solution? I would say: SORTITION. What follows in the text however is some woo about AI and people being like neurons and shit. Try to make sense of it, I can't.
Fin.

>>2538124
OK source are in the desk drawers, but they're too importants to sharing, thankes yuo for understandings!. Come agen for next bo k on China "„IN THE EAST SLEEPS A GIANT, DO NOT WAKE HIM UP!” release translaeiton soon!