History bros here? Can anyone explain how Islam had managed to permanently replace the dominant religions of Iran and North India, 1000+ old at that moment, even after both had overthrown direct Arab (Umayad) rule? Was Islam geniunely this much more popular among lower classes of these societes than the religions of old? (I am prety certain that Islam is more historically progressive than Hinduism, but that alone doesn't mean much). Or Muslims just were so absurdly efficient colonisers?
>>2536062>1000+ years oldMy bad, Hinduism was more than TWO thousand years old at the time of Islamic conquest, and three thousand years old if one is willing to extend its history to the mythical time.
Its not that Islam is much more populist as the fact that Islamic sects provided avenue for legitimizing rebellions. If you were an Iranian or Indian during the Caliphate period you could just say that you were a partisan of Ali and suddenly you had a gazillion people fighting with you to kill and rob and the Arab lords and established Sunni clergy, something that was not possible with Zoroastrianism or Hinduism (at least until the emergence of the Marathas)
This is also the logic behind why you got so many fundamentalist protestant uprisings in Europe. If you want to fuck over the lord just say you were fighting to uphold the Bible against Popery and overnight you went from being a bandit to a peasant revolutionary
I feel like there's a connection between Abrahamic faiths and imperialism and they just tend to gel together very well.
>>2536294Medium sized feudal states in Europe were forced to adopt socially destabilizing technologies and methods to compete with each other, if Europe were pagan you would see shrines to Odin all over Asia, the Americas, and Africa
>>2536294They all go back to the old testament where God gave his people a pass to destroy Jericho or w/e. Its the basis for having a supremacist outcome
>>2536062It was more virulent form of a brain parasite compared to former religions.
>>2536062It's because Islam is correct
I don't know how Islam spreads but it's odd. When Orthodox Russia invaded Pagan Tartarstan and Pagan Dagestan and Pagan Chechnya… the end result was the people became Muslim. Weird.
>>2536294Yes all three Abrahamic religions have a globalist aspect to them, it takes different forms depending on the religion.
>>2536294Islam is an anti-imperialist religion though
Islam was less efficient at wiping out pagans. Pagans effectively don't exist in Christian Europe. But they do in Islam majority countries
>>2542645christianity didnt have a system like the jizya where outsiders could be institutionalised. in spain i remember they copied a system from the muslims, but this wasn't found in the bible. even though pagans werent people of the book hindus and buddhist were included, better to use them as a tax resource over decades than killing them and taking their loot.
pagans also survived in small numbers in orthodox russia. but i don't know why.
>>2542631>our imperialism and colonization cannot be count as imperialism and colonizationKek, islamist are truly delusional
sir, this is a leftist discussion forum.
>>2542663Why islamist come here to shill their backwater reactionary religion is beyond me.
>>2542666south asian muslims have their own caste system tho. If anti-casteism was the reason all of India would be Buddhist
>>2542672I think the difference is that Buddhism isn't dogmatic like abrahamic religions, the Buddhist king Ashoka patronised non-buddhist sects in his kingdom while remaining Buddhist himself, something an abrahamist would never do.
>>2542672i've never seen caste being mentioned in relationship to pakistanis
>>2542707Abrhamic religion are extremely bad, reactionary and should be fought against everywhere, no sane rational progressive person support those religions.
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