/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2539407
Comparing Bolivarianism to socdem movements in Argentina and Brazil is incoherent

>>2539430
they are both reformist in nature

>>2539645
he was elected uygha

Milley's party won because how much of the Justicialist Party messed up the economy. Than Miley is still liked more even after all his fuck ups shows how bad the Justicialist Party was at managing the economy.

>>2539407
It can work, but the people at the head are usually corrupt pieces of shit

>>2539432
Bolivarianism has an explicitly socialist character fundamentally different of the Kirchnerists who are only populist socdems that dont intend to change the system at all thats why the comparison doesnt work.

>>2540101
so does the sandinistas but they have yet to achieve much of anything still

>>2540102
They have achieved quite a lot despite it all, though frankly Im not that well versed on the history of Nicaragua to make further comment. That said expecting a small Central American nation to be a perfect beacon of socialism post-USSR collapse is rather silly.

>>2540135
i'm expecting them to be more than mere red liberals

>>2540135
Nicaragua here. Everything here is basically subsistence . Hell, even the U.S. dollar, so we get screwed with our own currency.

>>2540143
Easy to speak from the outside
>>2540144
Can you tell me more about what is it like over there?

>>2540148
It's gotten progressively better. After the 2018 uprising, which didn't amount to anything because the people who started it fled. They were going to put another Chamorro in place and were pushing for a more pro-American stance . The government stepped up and stopped her shenanigans . To be fair, I'm not even part of the party ; however, I can tell that after 2018, they started investing more in public services. It ' s a slow process, but just about everything here is subsidized: gas, medication, public services . There is free university (if you can pass the exams), and all around, it's not that bad.

They don't want a repeat of 2018, so they are focusing more on the people. It's not perfect, with a fairly fragile system, but poverty still remains and is not completely eradicated . It's better for about 40% of the population; crime is low, even in some bad areas like deep in the north. But it's mostly petty crime, and no one is going to kill you for your stuff .

>>2539407
>thinking Venezuela, Brazil, and Argentina
>are remotely socialist
Fetal alcohol syndrome and its consequences.

>>2540158
Bueno, me alegro que las cosas esten relativamente mejores compañero. El camino al socialismo sigue siendo largo en todos lados pero bue, eso no es nada nuevo tampoco.

>>2540175
Al suave.

>Venezuela might be invaded by the US
<Hey /leftypol/, did you know that Venezuela isn't even socialist?
It's almost ritualistic at this point

>>2540196
I wouldnt personally call the current government commited to socialism but I will never endorse Amerimutt interventionism

>>2539407
Chavez keep democracy instead of switching to an (offical) party state (New Democracy, People's Democracy, call it whatever) is what doomed the bolivarian revoluion

>>2540206
>>2540206
you do know that US literally counts the Venezuelan state as a "cartel" right, they claim that it's a "narcostate" and have even put a bounty on maduro for drug trafficking

>populist socialism
Anon, that means there is a non populist one.
And now I have to hang you by your feet for implying such stupidity.
Or maybe you are a Ceacescuite, then respecto for innovating in socialist terminology

>>2539407
Dengist model is still the most successful model for poor 3rd world countries who lack industrial capacity. But it takes a fanatically dedicated communist party to keep the party in line for this transitional period.

>>2540304
>non populist socialism
Vanguardism

>>2540453
Venezuale is basically a one party state. Easily could qualify as a dictatorship of proletariat in the Leninist sense.