/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Honestly, those action seem rational given the circumstances

Meanwhile China took care of their extremist muslims by teaching them mandarin and sending them to trade school, kek

>>2539883
Yea, their approach is better

>>2539873
you are louse, a liberal, a snake

>>2539873
>given the circumstances
uh huh.

Bush is still worse than Trump with regard to internal repression and whatnot

This thread is a joke, this is how china identified more than a million "extremists" to send to "vocational schools", read mostly normie muslims to what are basically carceral schools. Very brutal and arbitrary crackdown, but because the "good guys" did it and the "bad guys" are calling that a genocide it means it was all good for the retarded vulgar anti imperialists who are not even aware of those laws that were copied word for word in that thread.

>>2540752
>burgers fund ETIM to destabilize china
>china reeducates them

<burgers also fund other islamists to destabilize other countries
<when the US is done using them they bomb random muslims and their families

yeah i suppose this is remotely comparable if you believe everything Adrian Zenz says about Xinjiang.

>>2540770
>>2540773
Also China has helped the crazy islamists in Afghanistan against the USSR which makes the bait in this thread work even better.

>>2540779
>>2540752
You caught me. These points are taken directly from China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region Regulation on De-extremification from 2017.

https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region-regulation-on-de-extremification/

>>2541982
Personally, I applaud China for running what is arguably one of the best counterinsurgency operations in history. What they are doing is clearly working. We should be taking notes and considering how to apply it to future counterrevolutionaries.

>>2539869
cope things are worse

>>2539987
US with its high degree of individualism including religious freedom can't really solve the religious extremist problem. They're lucky not to have many muslims in their society or they would be a bigger pain than the Christian lunatics they currently have.

>>2542045
>they should be counting their lucky stars they didn’t all get deported en masse tbh
The US didn't need that back then. And it doesn't need it now either, the deportations , I mean. The cheeseburger gestapo is just using flashy deportations and random thuggery to establish the new standard.

Back in 2001 the USA was doing victory laps. Now? Now it's struggling to raise the profitability at home, lest the big money stop betting on team hegemony. Gotta scare the shit out of everybody and redbait before they get ideas.

George W Bush was one of the worst presidents of all time besides Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan

great bait

>>2540021
okay but weren't their multiple plots against the WTC pre 9/11 including the successful 1993 one? Frankly I'm surprised he even managed to get insurance that covered terrorist attacks, that's like getting flood insurance in Florida

>>2540752
Best bait ever made. Multipolaroids are out-group neocons lmao.

>>2540752
>normie muslims
muslims from islamic groups whose members committed terrorist attacks
>carceral schools
mandatory night school
>brutal and arbitrary crackdown
what would be even more brutal and arbitrarily irrational is to let the attacks continue like they do in Germany. this kind of terrorism directly stems from strong beliefs in fundamentalist Islam, therefore strong beliefs in fundamentalist Islam must be eradicated. unless you are a Sunni Muslim, denying this is just suicidal.

>>2542003
>Personally, I applaud China for running what is arguably one of the best counterinsurgency operations in history. What they are doing is clearly working. We should be taking notes and considering how to apply it to future counterrevolutionaries.
The "War On Terror" is estimated to have killed about 4 million people and made millions more refugees. Nobody has ever produced a single person ever killed in the "Uighur Genocide" in the nearly 8 or so years they've been talking about it. This entire thread is nothing more than naked apologia for the "East Turkestan" separatist movement, which act as mercenaries for NATO forces in Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh. Anybody that looks at the pogroms in Syria after the so-called "revolution" there last year knows what "East Turkestan" will be if the separatists gain power. This also promotes communism as being equal to imperialism and fascism. Telling how these Actual Socialists love to side with the vicious enemies of socialism over real-life socialist movements and countries. It's fucking timeless.

Can't believe it isn't immediately obvious how these points are from the chinese lol

>rejecting or refusing public goods and services such as radio and television.
As if any american institution would bring up public goods and services like this

>>2540752
Well its more humane to re-educate than to liquidate religious extremists. How the hell did these people survive during Mao is a mystery to me.

>>2556893
>This entire thread is nothing more than naked apologia for the "East Turkestan" separatist movement
>This also promotes communism as being equal to imperialism and fascism. Telling how these Actual Socialists love to side with the vicious enemies of socialism over real-life socialist movements and countries. It's fucking timeless.
<China re-educating and preventing separatism, instead of killing them is bad as fascism or imperialism
What the actual fuck am I reading?

>>2540752
>but because the "good guys" did it and the "bad guys" are calling that a genocide it means it was all good
liberals: (smug) "heh, if I completely change the context and ignore class struggle against Zionist finance imperialism in the globalist "World Trade Center", ACTUALLY good things are actually bad. I bet you feel really embarrassed that you didn't imagine my hypothetical situation that ignores the Dictatorship of the NYC Jeffrey Epstein class that is actually real"

>>2539873
The circumstances of what? A giant insurance fraud that resulted in the death of some wagie cucks and your precious pretty Lego blocks fell down? Fuck you and fuck America. I wish more people had died that day, and frankly it's telling how the moment you have any reason at all you redditlibs will make the magatards look like anarchists in comparison.

You need a jihad. Like an actual Jihad. All the time. Forever. Just beheadings and your day ruined in the name of a white God you despise, Inshallah.

>>2556272
> Frankly I'm surprised he even managed to get insurance that covered terrorist attacks, that's like getting flood insurance in Florida
you're surprised a billionaire was exempt from the usual limitations?

>>2558273
Based

All of those are rational and if you understood Islamic history you'd know that extreme Salafist/Wahhabist really only came out as a result of the British toppling the Ottoman empire by purposely aiding the most reactionary sects. That's always been the standard, disruptive foreign policy to enable the most reactionary sects to overthrow the more secular States. It happened in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya…

>Spreading religious fanaticism through irregular beards or name selection
It's not that naming your kid Muhammad is illegal. It's that if you're born Kyle Brown and one day you suddenly grow a 5-foot beard and name yourself Ahmad Al-Bashur Muhammad, you put on a bright red flag.

>Wearing (or compelling others to wear) burqas with face coverings
First off, no they're not "religious clothing" like a Mormon's underwear. They're specific, cultural clothing from Arabia, that these radical sects started mandating as mandatory for all Muslims. Furthermore, it's not a "woman's choice" when they are forced into making that choice out of pain of social abandonment, torture, or death as is the case in the rural areas of particularly backwards regions. Burkas only became mandated in regions in the last 100 years. You don't care about women's rights if you defend Burqa because it is an emblem of patriarchal control and that's clear to anyone who isn't a bleeding heart, liberal guilt moron.

>Interfering with cultural and recreational activities, rejecting or refusing public goods and services such as radio and television.
I can't find this one anywhere because it needs to be elaborated on. I'll speak on what I think it means from your abstract.

This doesn't happen but it's theoretically about if Muslims started taking to the street demanding women to go home at a parade or whatever. People are free to be Muslim, but you can't impose that on people, and I would want the same thing done to Christians or Hindus.

>Publishing, printing, distributing, selling, producing, downloading, storing, reproducing, accessing, copying, or possessing articles, publications, audio or video with extremist content
No, anon. They cannot publish ISIS recruitment videos. This is idiotic to be angry about.

>Other speech and acts of extremism
Again, making threats is illegal.

These are the same guidelines as China has. Islam is reactionary like every religion but from its insistence on it being the "final word of God" and some of its philosophical roots, like the Ottoman's rejection of the Enlightenment, it caused it to hold particularly backwards, incompatible cultural norms like their treatment of women. This is reiterated in fiqh so don't give me some liberal revisionist view of the Quran or Haddith. This isn't Zionist propaganda (dumbass mod, reading this) but just its theology. They don't deserve death for it, but you can't just ignore Wahhabis flooding your country trying to convert your native ethnic groups like what the Saudis tried to do to the Uyghurs. Same thing with America needing to keep an eye on the Saudi ideologies after 9/11.

Using Uyghurs as the example, take a look at the picture. This is what ethnic Uyghurs look like. The other one is what a standard, western Uyghur "protest" looks like. There have been decades long efforts of implanting the Wahhabi, Salafist or Deobandi ideology into China, which all hold anti-communist sentiment and they all hold a view about the urgency of toppling the Chinese State. I don't think China is communist, but what they're doing just basic national security. This same security would be required in a true worker's State, if say the Saudis started sending in pro-theocracy agitators into the region with the intent of toppling it from within. It's common sense against your pacifism death cult.

>>2559867
Forgot the other picture. But seriously, stop reducing all Islamic culture down to whatever liberal, revisionist ideal you have in your head. Regardless of the crimes the USA has committed – which mostly involves toppling secularizing leaders like what they did in Iraq – it doesn't mean that Jihadi John is misunderstood. There's been attempts within Muslim society to adopt some social democratic ideals, which involves some secularization and it should be defended against Wahhabi style oppression. Blindly defending that religious reaction means you don't actually care about the people and just have some terminal "anti-America" view even if it means ISIS executing people for singing.

>>2559867
Lol it literally is China's guidelines, the thread is a jebaiting. Though we know the US had some similarly harsh surveillance on Muslims especially in the years after 9/11