While it varies from fascist to fascist, a lot of us agree with many issues with leftists geopolitically: Israel-Palestine, the arab world in general (see: Ba'athism), China, Russia-Ukraine war (granted, this is a pretty divisive one), NATO, american influence over the world in general. Leftists who support pro western causes (in modern times Ukraine and seperatist movements in China, for example) are a psyop by the CIA and trotskyists to turn leftists into gay liberals but painted in red.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
no.
No, if you're too lazy too look up what a think tank is and look into how the Heritage Foundation groomed you into an ideology that above all serves to draw out capitalism for as long as possible, socialists shouldn't have to babysit you.
>>2543296Us fascists are just as if not more anti capitalist than a lot of leftists
Fuck off Yockey this isn't TNO
saged
>>2543297You’re not though, your just stooges for capitalism and imperialist projects like Israel and Ukraine. You’ll never be anti-capitalist because you're to psyoped to ever be any threat to capital if not just out right complicit in their goals. All it takes is some ugly ass meme about a immigrants or gay people for you to change allegiance.
>>2543302Answer to literally any of the points
>>2543303How tf are we puppets of Israel if we're straight up antisemitic? Plus for Ukraine (led by a jewish liberal btw) part all serious nationalists in Russia support the SMO.
Go back to playing map games you freak
>>2543309My brother in Christ the billionaires are the ones importing immigrants to replace white workers and they're the ones who support anti traditional movements like LGBT
>>2543308Judaism and Zionism are as different religions as Judaism and Christianity. Israel was founded.
Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement >>2543312Yeah. The Germans knew the Jews should get the hell out of Germany.
No. All fascists are a liability at best, and a subhuman animal at worst.
>>2543297>making shit upLmao you freaks love capitalist cock in your ass as long as it's "based" and "trad"
>>2543314
I mean, they exterminated you during the war, so what does that say about you?
>>2543311>My brother in ChirstI'm a pagan and stirnerite egoist. I find it odd that you can be both anti-semitic and abrahamic.
>importing immigrantsIf you understood historical materialism you'd understand they're dipping into reserve labor as a desperation measure, they're not "replacing" you, they're trying to keep you from unionizing.
>anti-traditionalistThe think tanks are the reason you are a "traditionalist," (think 1950's advertizements are real) and queers just stood there minding your buisness
>>2543321Are you really sure we would accept billionaries like Soros, Schwab and others when we oppose them so much?
>>2543308The number funders and supporters of fascism across the globe is Israel. They have the same retarded goal as you do. Divide the working class into localized identities groups. Which can be exploited or exterminated as needed and that includes white people. You’re race and religion are just commodities that are sold to you. You are a cow to the capitalist class and your biggest complaint is your cage is next to some cows a pasture over. Bro your heading to the same slaughter house.
>>2543316To extend it's reach into the middle east. Those jews were just as much nazis as the people that "expelled" them.
>>2543297You're not a serious person, you're basically a child with a child's understanding of the world, acting out your play-fantasies, groomed by Hitlerite pedophiles. Grow up, delete terrorgram, cut your disgusting greasy hair (don't lie), go outside and maybe a woman will touch you and maybe you can begin your road to mental hygiene.
>>2543332
Correct, our enemies are far more obese and unhealthy. The SS would put your average american fascist into an oven for being too dysgenic
>>2543330We actually DON'T support Thiel or Musk, at least not any one of us who is serious.
>>2543334Then stop voting for people who carry out their agenda, retard.
You understand we know you operate, right? We don't take what you say seriously.
We get threads like this every so often and I usually end up explaining the same things each time, but I figure before this thread gets banned or what have you. Lemme list the problems with this idea.
No one has any clue what a Red-Brown Alliance even means.
Especially on the internet, it functions mostly as this notion "hey, what if we start liking each other?" Y'know, get the Tankiest Tankie and some Ultra-Nazi and they're all buddy-buddy.
Like, what is it you want, exactly? For Marxist-Leninists in particular the Party structure is immensely important, so do you want… I dunno, the PSL to walk hand-in-hand with Patriot Front or the National Socialist Movement? I doubt the membership, a not-insignificant portion of which are ethnic minorities or LGBT would want to stand shoulder to shoulder with people who think their existence is a problem.
Does it mean voting for right wing candidates? Figures like Trump have a long history of stomping down on the working class. You can look at the Big Beautiful Bill and see that the burden falls immensely on poor and working people.
So in essence, no one knows what this "Red-Brown Alliance" means in practice, beyond just "be nice to each other online".
Next:
The Radical Left and Radical Right are marginal enough to make an alliance pointless.
Back in Weimar Germany you'd have shit like maybe some collaboration on strikes or what have you, but where's the Fascist Vanguard? Where's the Communist one? At least Communists have parties, but most Fascist groups are like 200 weirdos max.
Like it or not, the main forces in mainstream politics today are the Dems and Reps.
>>2543334>I don't support billionaires, I just support keeping what gives them so much power and wealth in the first placeFuckin' fashies ain't sending their best and brightest.
Oh who am I kidding this is their best and brightest and they're morons
Congrats, OP. Three slop threads in a single day.
>>2543302Honestly it's a small issue considering the other problems the mod has but I always thought the choice of Yockey for leader of the American Nazi movement in TNO wasn't very good. Yockey only developed his "pro-Soviet" ideas as a result of the Axis losing in World War 2, and ONLY on the basis that he saw the Soviet Union as a white ethnostate. With the Nazis winning, Yockey would have just been like any other Nazi except more anti-American. Rockwell was apparently rejected for being "too cliche" even though at the time there weren't any other mods that had Rockwell as a character at all, and while Rockwell himself was less of an outright Nazi and more of a really racist dixiecrat with a love for publicity stunts, a lot of his underlings were genuine schizos with their own set of wacky ideas who could have made for possible leaders too.
>>2543341
>obsessed with trans people's junk to the point where you think everybody who thinks you're retarded is one
You ever consider why this is why libs think you're a bunch of weird fuckers
Do you people have trans junk tourette's or something? Every time you get called out on anything it's like you people can't stop screaming about it. Anything you wanna say to the class?
>>2543341
And there's your gender affirming treats: you get to avoid being forcefemmed by furry supersoldiers and sensible public transit / city planning, and capitalism has one less meaningful opponent.
>>2543347
>Admitting you're attention whoring
Sad!
>>2543337PSL are controlled opposition while groups like ACP are actually the ones we can work with. Also, we don't actually support Trump, at best he's the lesser evil.
>>2543351>We don't support him, we just grudgingly support himFuckin' kek
>>2543332It would be pretty stupid if we did, communism is about adapting to changing material conditions. It’s not the 1940s anymore.
>>2543340Yes antisemites are Israel’s biggest friend. That’s why they fund and train Nazis the world over. They want all Jews in Israel and to create the perception that Jews are
1: the choosen people(master race)
2: that they are besieged and only safe among their own “kind”
You guys have the same ideology except it’s for white people. And we see how will ethno-nationalism works out. Leaves the nation and volk destroyed and under the boot of foreign powers because a bunch of over emotional retards on meth had absolute power over the state.
>>2543351Why are you so dead set on trying to convince us we can be friends?
We see through you, please eat a gun for being a fascist.
>>2543350
Sure Jews can be fascists, like Kahanists, but among goyim fascists there are very few philosemites.
>>2543351>Also, we don't actually support Trump, at best he's the lesser evil.Cuck chair
>>2543356>fascism is for my super special group onlyFascists actually read their own history
(IMPOSSIBLE) >>2543351Woah woah woah we already know you were groomed over d*scord by Hitlerite FBI pedophiles, you don't need to prove it.
These are some low-energy fashoid trolls ITT. They don't even have the energy to spam frogs and wojaks!
What's wrong? Backing the wrong "lesser evil" got you gloomy?
>>2543351>PSL are controlled opposition while groups like ACP are actually the ones we can work with. Also, we don't actually support Trump, at best he's the lesser evil.I mean, I sincerely doubt PSL are "controlled opposition". The ACP is fairly marginal and mostly regarded as a joke in Left-Wing circles here. You can, of course, try and contact them directly but even then that goes back to the question of "who" is this supposed alliance actually incorporating and what does it practically mean.
Oh, back to the "controlled opposition" bit: you fail to understand that most of us have actual genuine ideological principles and reasons for the positions we take. It's not "CNN told us to love trans people and so now that's our politics."
>>2543361>you fail to understand that most of us have actual genuine ideological principles and reasons for the positions we take. It's not "CNN told us to love trans people and so now that's our politics."I don't think fascists are actually capable of understanding this.
>>2543362>retard screen addict blitheringCase in point, this guy is too retarded to not project his own screen addiction onto others. As it is with nazis generally!
>>2543352There's near zero fascists who actively think Trump will be America's saviour. It's either "he's a part of ZOG but at least he's not a democrat", "he's exactly the same as the democrats" or you can be like Richard Spencer and hate Trump for being pro Israel so much you support Kamala.
>>2543362
We don't simply have no problem with it, we plan to do it! You never read the Manifesto, goy?
>>2543365
All we're saying is what goes around comes around, that should be pretty easy to understand even for a mouthbreathing retard such as yourself, surely?
>>2543365I have to give you credit for actually stating an opinion that wasn't just spamming a twitter screenshot unlike most nazi tourists…. but you're clearly parroting shit you got off twitter.
Sad!
>>2543366>B-b-b-but you have to like me because we don't like Trump anymore.No thanks, you should both hang yourselves.
You're not gonna convince anyone here, and I think you should die.
If we hate Trump for being right-wing, you think we wouldn't hate you even more? In practice your ideology consistently bolsters capitalism, so please, fuck off and stop fishing for approval.
>>2543373
Fascinating. Did you get that off a screen?
Anyone here actually get the sense that nazis aren't actually human? They're like meat-puppets of algorithms who have lost all sentience and can only parrot what an AI feeds them. Maybe in that case, anything we do to them isn't technically evil!
>>2543371Even fascists who do support capitalism as a system want the people running it replaced completely, unless you're an edgelord who thinks the third world being exploited is based and redpilled (ignoring that it is exploited so their citizens get to move to white countries).
>>2543375>continuing to whine that we don't believe youOkay, let me lay it down for you:
1. You retards don't know what capitalism is
2. Because of that, you don't know what being against capitalism is
3. In practice, because of this, you aren't meaningfully anti-capitalist, and generally make it worse.
Got it?
Now stop wasting our time trying to get us on your side, you are not welcome here.
>>2543364>I don't think fascists are actually capable of understanding this.There's a conspiratorial mindset among them that allows for easy narrative building, casting people as part of some great "other" that has been either brainwashed or lies about their intentions.
>>2543366I hate to tell you this friend, but I don't see modern fascists as ideologically coherent. Like, Communists have texts they read and constantly bicker over. There are Fascist texts out there, I've read them, but I doubt most modern people adopting the "Fascist" label do so themselves.
>>2543378We're a lot less prone to infighting (def happens, but it's less common) than you because we recognise the things we hold dearest are at stake
>>2543381You hold nothing dear, you would allow the social murder of a million white people to spite one hypothetical brown person. Case in point Trump ending the snap program during record high inflation and unemployment. Fascist are the greatest enemy to the survival of white people.
>>2543382Trump is still complicit in the Great Replacement, he's only opposed to it when it's done "illegaly" as if a single Arab or African living in a white country should be legal.
>>2543381>We're a lot less prone to infighting (def happens, but it's less common) than you because we recognise the things we hold dearest are at stakeI'd counter that you're less prone to infighting because fundamentally a lot of what you want is abstract and motivated more by gut feeling. I don't say that necessarily as an insult but as an observation.
Look at how the Libertarian movement basically died out under Trump: where they were once allegedly concerned with government overreach and repression they now welcome a unitary executive in most cases, one who quietly wants gun registration and the uploading of their biometric data into shady companies like Palantir.
Leftists do a lot of infighting of course, but that's born in part from the legitimate stakes we have in the world we want to create. It matters to us whether we have a Socialist State or a Free Territory. Truth be told I suspect a lot of Fascists would slide into contentment under a Marxist-Leninist state so long as they get fancy military parades to entertain themselves.
>>2543384You morons are going to wipe out white people in the name of “saving” them. You are the great replacement. Satanic pedo demons turning the American race against itself so it can be colonized by Israel.
>>2543362
Said brown people will simply become white in the environment white people did
>>2543386>a lot of Fascists would slide into contentment under a Marxist-Leninist state so long as they get fancy military parades to entertain themselves100%, this is all aesthetic shit for them, throw up some marble statues and put some chiseled jawlines on a couple of posters and presto. It's like jingling a set of keys in front of a baby.
>>2543339lol the chud in the first image cracks me up
>>2543295you guys are retards and there is nothing to gain from an alliance with retards
>>2543381You have less infighting because fascism is syncretic in nature, all that matters is "kill da commies"
>>2543378>but I don't see modern fascists as ideologically coherentthe old ones (fascists italy) wasnt either
>>2543396>The logical result of Fascism is the introduction of aesthetics into political life. walter benjamin, many decades ago
The only possible red-brown alliance is the sexual-romantic alliance between me and my future homophobic fascist boyfriend
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