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Liberals don‘t understand the importance of revolution, the cost of revolution, how it is misguided to complain about what necessarily happens in revolutions and why reasoning must reject and move past that of the established status quo because liberals are not taught the importance of their own revolution. You may learn about the events that have happened, but you are not philosophically educated about revolutions in themselves and their necessity in moving past a system that is inherently bad and whose rulers and those privileged will fight tooth and nail to keep it, at the cost of everyone else living in misery.

I suggest that if you want to convert liberals to socialism then educate them about the liberal revolution. Make them grasp the necessity and good of a revolution regarding something they wouldn‘t possibly disagree with. Additionally, you could then translate this to our times and make analogies of the current ruling class acting like kings and everyone else having to live like a serf.

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>>2550224
>Liberals don‘t understand the importance of revolution, the cost of revolution, how it is misguided to complain about what necessarily happens in revolutions and why reasoning must reject and move past that of the established status quo because liberals are not taught the importance of their own revolution
Trotsky remarked on this. it's not merely that they are not taught the importance, it is that the bourgeoisie deliberately buried their own revolutionary history once they became the ruling class. working class liberals (i.e. people with false consciousness) maybe are ignorant, but the bourgeoisie are willfully ignorant about what Hobesbawm calls the Age of Revolution (1789-1848)

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>>2553417
everyone wants to pontificate from the podium. nobody wants to clutch the gangrenous limb as it is turned to a stump by the surgeon's saw

>>2550224
> Liberals don‘t understand the importance of revolution, the cost of revolution, how it is misguided to complain about what necessarily happens in revolutions and why reasoning must reject and move past that of the established status quo because liberals are not taught the importance of their own revolution.
How does this factor in the MLoid failure to understand the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism outside their edgy murder fantasies that end in 90% of the final victim tally being communists saying maybe we should pursue the end of capitalism and not uhhhhhhh woke national socialism? “Ah but you see material conditions made socialism impossible!” Yea that speaks for itself.
> I suggest that if you want to convert liberals to socialism then educate them about the liberal revolution. Make them grasp the necessity and good of a revolution regarding something they wouldn‘t possibly disagree with. Additionally, you could then translate this to our times and make analogies of the current ruling class acting like kings and everyone else having to live like a serf.
Liberals are individualists that believe in metaphysical morality, the odds of getting them to shift substantially are tough

>>2553417
Where was this "moment in leftism" where these revolutionaries talked about having revolutions of love and jubilee in the streets? Who or what is this referencing? Hippie college students? Most leftist understand that revolution is a violent affair no? This is a dumb comic

>>2553647
>>2553417
A true revolution is an extreme intellectual, cultural and economic event, it usually features a lot of violence and horrors but also much fervor and happiness since the shackles of the oppressed are broken. So not incompatible, it's as dumb to think it will purely suck and be only horrific.

>>2553651
Of course, I'm not saying there'll be no jubilation. It's just a dumb comic trying to create a strawman of people only seeing this extremely multifaceted event from one angle, even though irl the vast majority of leftist don't do that

stop the larp


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