So how does the AI boom end? Will they fire everyone, or will it blow up before it gets to that point? The rate of profit should be falling because the more unemployment the less spending, but in today's ultrafinancialized world spending by the rich is actually up while everyone else's is down. The bourgeois have access to direct financing from the banks and central banks and they use it to buy up more and more hard resources and land and then use that to borrow even more, inflating the value of everything for everyone except themselves. And because the masses are jacked into playing their dumbass numbers game they are just becoming impoverished while sitting on their hands and coping that everything business as usual. Will there be a breaking point?
AGI is coming, bro, just get ready.
#ChristmasCrash2025
>>2551803Trust the plan, 2 more week until full AGI,
Sam Altman kills himself in the Thielbunker as forces of the American Red Army close in
>>2551791>So how does the AI boom end? Will they fire everyone, or will it blow up before it gets to that point?Bubbles popping doesnt mean AI will end just like internet didnt end with the dotcom bubble. It will take decades for AI to replace all jobs.
>>2551815It's being used as an excuse for mass layoffs though because porkies believe a) that it works or works at least well enough and b) that it will give them a compliant and never-tiring worker with no physical needs
have you not seen the trump reich? the "solution" of the ruling class will be concentration camps and slavery.
>>2551844isn't that called feudalism
>>2551844More like death camps and no need for human slavery.
The bubble will not burst rapidly, more like slowly because the state does not want more people going into communism. They will do a slow deflation and mostly screw with your head via control of the media. The price will correct slowly, your life will be shittier but you will be a frog slowly boiled alive, too preoccupied with other things in life to notice.
>>2551858>but you will be a frog slowly boiled alive, too preoccupied with other things in life to notice.That's my point how do we beat it
The GPUs are the lynchpin of the whole thing. These companies invested hundreds of billions on expendible GPUs for their AI training datacenters and in a few years all those GPUs will start burning out and need to be replaced and if this investment hasn't generated some serious returns by that point then these companies are going to be in some real trouble. They will need another installment to keep this thing going and how are they going to convince investors to give them another half trillion dollars to blow on more GPUs if the first round of investment was an utter failure and generated none of the returns that were promised? VC firms are fucking stupid, but even their stupidity has its limits. You can only skin a cat once.
So, do you people believe in AGI or do you think is just tech bro grifting?
>>2551872It's not only tech bro grifting, it is
religion. It's mankind's oldest delusion, believing that human intelligence is some kind of objective quantifiable property that can exist outside of humanity, that there could be some kind of "superior" version of human intelligence aka God which we can become or create or make contact with. It is anthropocentrism, it is vanity, it is bullshit.
>>2551791bubbles have nothing to do with the TRPF
the TRPF isn't about workers not being able to afford things
you are mentally retarded
The bubble will pop, but they won't re-hire people, the companies that fired people will simply implode.
>>2551925do you not see the job openings on the graph workers can't afford things if they're unemployed retard
>>2551867You need to accumulate debt-free property. Something tangible and productive
>House>Farm>Industrial equipment>Guns>Oil wellsStuff like that
Or just not invest in AI companies.
>>2551890God hasn't talked with us for such a long time that we are desperate and want to create our own god to worship. Ancients created gods out of wood and stone. Modern man creates gods out of electric signals and silicon.
>>2551955That let's you win on an individual level but unless everyone works together you can't fight off the US military when Blackrock hires them to take your shit
>>2551963By that time the Chinese paratroopers will land in the midwest. Will you help them?
No. This time it's different
>>2551949it has nothing to do with the marxist concept of TRPF - but you have never read marx, so you assume that any decrease in profit rates must be the marxist TRPF, which it most certainly is not. the point marx was making was about the expansion of constant capital
>>2552063Explain the difference then
>>2552139read capital its not that complicated
>>2551960You the people god supposedly talked to were all schizos right?
>>2551807the lowest 20 is a flat line because they just spend on subsistence like rent and food
the top 10% keeps increasing because they are eating the "middle" classes…
it ends in your butthole
>>2552661This is a bubble. AI compaanies have created a product which has allowed them to gather a lot of investments to operate at a loss, while there are no markets for the product; Nvidia sells them chips, necessary for AIs, so Nvidia has all reasons to give money to invest into AI companies to save them from bubble pop;
>>2551845 >>2551882 It's not TPRF, it's a bubble.
>>2551872I imagine AGI is possible but is there any reason to think it would come from glorified chatbots.
apparently michael burry the guy from the big short who got rich betting on the subprimes crisis is betting on the AI bubble exploding
>>2551791>>2551840>Will they fire everyone, or will it blow up before it gets to that point?no reason why both cant happen simultaneously, investors keep rewarding layoffs because it looks like they're optimizing for AI, but it's also masking the insane contraction the US is going through, the bubble collapsing wont create jobs from thin air, so layoffs will continue indefinitely.
>>2551882yeah they're trying to get the government on the hook for depreciating GPUs lol, what's worse is that I think trump will literally buy sam altman's garbage anyway
>>2552929i wonder if the trump admin has a choice, like within the bounds of what they believe or understand about economics what else can they do
>>2552933i have no idea, because trump went hard on AI literally day two of his mandate, but he has failed to materialize the actual money for shit like stargate, so an alternative that could very well happen is that trump will promise to build this "compute reserve" and do nothing at all.
>>2552854AI is constant capital, and believe it or not, it isn't all generative AI shit with no market. a lot of it really is being used to automate office jobs.
t. in an engineering firm where there were a bunch of layoffs of people who used to do emails and spreadsheets all day, now work on a dev team.
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