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Why isn't China funneling money to combat anti-communist propaganda in the west? Or anti-chinese propaganda? Or anything like that? All they do is whine about the confucious institute but its clearly not doing jackshit since sinophobia and anti-communism continue to be rampant. Where are the think tanks? Why aren't they financing channels to screw over the algorhytmn? Why? If they're doing something or anything at all its not enough. Anywhere east of Russia is generally an anti-communist shithole that holds no respect for China and millions of citizens brainwashed into pro-American slopaganda about how China's "stealing technology from the US", "China is totalitarian surveillence undemocratic state when west is freedumz n freeze peach", "Russia aggressor 2022 Putin dictator" "Hummus antisemitism". Why is China letting this retardation continue? Its only fueling the retardation war machine and conditioning the retarded to die for retardation. Why come China is just letting anti-chinese and anti-communist propaganda flood the internet? China is literally winning on all grounds except propaganda, why hasn't it solidified its global importance by financing anti-western sentinment? Why do we have to be forced to listen and see all this retarded bullshit and argue with it to no avail when China has the power to finance cointel to win the information war?
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>Why isn't China funneling money to combat anti-communist propaganda in the west?
Because they are not communist. If it barks and bites like a capitalist, it's capitalist. They super duper promised to become socialist in a few more decades though! Pinky promise!

>>2554844
The advantage of the West is in its soft power - funding efforts to compete with it in its area of greatest strength is probably a less efficient use of money than just investing in cold hard military capabilities. After all, we are in an age of warfare where humans and morale matters less than ever, and the war will be decided by who can produce more missiles, ships, and planes, no amount of propaganda will fix the Western deficit in this area.

>>2555759
I will note though, it's not like they don't spread any propaganda to foreigners, they've made halfhearted efforts with the Global Times and paying some white guys to shill for China on Youtube, Xitter, etc. like Arnaud Bertrand(I know there isn't any proof he's CCP funded but I suspect he's paid because the entirety of his content is just pro-China stuff) and that Scandinavian guy whose name I forgot.

But of course an English-language newspaper and paying some YouTubers is all very small compared to the Western mass-media machine and they've spent pennies on propaganda in comparison.

>>2555751
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_20_years 😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

>>2555751
Capitalism in China was eliminated long ago

>>2556141
retard

China doesn't owe your krakkka ass a revolution. Just pull yourself by your bootstrap like China did

I <3 capitalist logic

>>2555751
>If it barks and bites like a capitalist, it's capitalist
good thing the PRC doesn't do that then

>>2555759
This is incorrect. The capitalist countries have no advantages over China.
>we are in an age of warfare where humans and morale matters less than ever, and the war will be decided by who can produce more missiles, ships, and planes, no amount of propaganda will fix the Western deficit in this area.
You are utterly wrong. You demonstrate the capitalist logic of history's greatest losers, of macnamera and his morons. All wars are decided by men, not technology. If soft power is the capitalists' biggest strength, that is itself greatest weakness. The capitalists and their lackeys may have powerful fists but they have the weakest brains, like >>2556143. Communist China has more powerful fists because they have the most powerful brain: the Communist Party. The capitalist deficit is not mostly in objective conditions like you think, but mostly subjective. The deficit is not in bombs and shipyards, but in lack of soul and theory.
>>2556143
You violate many rules. You are anti-Communist so you are the retard.

>>2555751
Porky promise


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>>2554889
>Consumer goods are not propaganda
I believe you've failed to consider the Chinese beer jacket.

>>2554872
>No chinese official has ever thought about what its like for communist organizers in the west that are surrounded by anticommunist families, relatives, coworkers and liberal demoralizing brain numbing stream of ads and bullshit news, propaganda 24/7
why should they?

IDK why you people think China isn't doing anything on the psyop front, have you even noticed that everyone's visiting China and everyone is talking of 'becoming Chinese' on TT and IG. It'll just happen overnight like Deepseek, you're gonna wake up, and you'll be Chinese brother.

>>2556310
It's called astrosurfing or psyop, not organic shill

>>2554872
Xi somewhat did when he celebrated people bailing from TikTok to XiauHongShu. (though he failed to prevent XHS from fucking it up by adding Face ID.)

>>2556238
System of exploitation that was abolished in China decades ago. China has textbooks which explain how capitalism was eliminated in China
>>2554946
>>2555759
Your usage of term "soft power" is capitalistic and imperialist. You aid imperialists when you use their terminology. The more correct term for "soft power" is the globe wide network of occupied States which they dictate fascistically economically millitarily politically and socially.

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>>2556310
Yeah, it's very stupid to say that a country of 1.3 billion people isn't doing a whole lot of propaganda when your own community went to being very pro-China in just a few years. I remember when almost all western leftoids were the "waah USSR bad we are the good ones who won't steal the toothbrush unlike they clearly did, also china bad, uighur genocide is real" type. Hasan Piker just arrived in China. Chinese technology is now very respected. The image of China is unrecognizable from what I remember just a decade ago. Even 4chan is full of pro-China people now.

>>2556338
>Chinese technology is now very respected. The image of China is unrecognizable from what I remember just a decade ago. Even 4chan is full of pro-China people now.
why is Xi so good taking Ws
its starting to make me a bit mad

>>2556338
>Chinese technology is now very respected. The image of China is unrecognizable from what I remember just a decade ago. Even 4chan is full of pro-China people now.
Welfare ᴉuᴉlossnWs are just following the way opened by one of their own.

China doesn’t care.

Because China is anticommunist

>>2556326
>System of exploitation
What a vague description. Why are you afraid of telling people what this exploitation entails under capitalism

They are, its just that CPC propaganda is embarrassing and so blatant that no one who doesn't already agree with it will just dismiss it out of hand. Like Li Jingjing or whoever else.

>>2554839
What the hell are you talking about? Twitter and YouTube are full of pro-China content, and China is already more popular globally than the US. Even many people on /pol/ are complaining about the number of pro-China shills since the war in Ukraine and are asking the moderators to ban them and expel them to /Leftypol/. China and communism are cool now. (It doesn't help that the US and Israel are turning into a dystopian, fascist, theocratic, chudcel abomination either.)

>>2556352
The cure to envy is to see his success as foundation to build your own.

>>2556572
So fucking true, I hate Li Jingjing, what purpose does she even serve apart from preaching to the choir

>>2556156
>lack of soul and theory
>soul
>theory, as in communist theory, as in materialism
Bruh
>The deficit is not in bombs and shipyards
No there very much is a gigantic deficit in bombs and shipyards aka actual material power. This is what matters most, the fact that the Party has the bigger gun. 枪杆子里面出政权

>>2554905
Masculinite nonsense. I hope you've rested well and hydrated since making this affected reply.

Explain why you believe China was largely spared the Cold War wraͦth of the US Empire and its associates?
China benefits from not being seen as an aggressive threat.

>>2554905
It's not so much that it's pro-American, more so that it's retarded and gets them believing in an alternate reality


>>2559572
Because they sided with the US against the USSR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
Time and time again

>>2554888
>I hope the CCP does what the CPSU did: actively fund fascist parties in west Germany because (i) the 'communist' west German parties were adventurist ultra-left morons doomed to die like dogs, (ii) they could point fingers at west Germany and tell the world "see! they harbour nazis!"
They WHAT?

>>2554948
>Notice the date on all of those writings? See how early on they are? Lenin completely changed after seizing state power.
Nope.
>Originally he did claim that "vanguard" was meant as in "vanguard movement"
Also not true.
Rest is just cope, for example
<system of bureaucracy
<system of self-activity for the masses
are just phrases.

Just read the fucking book.

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Confucianism is what ruined China and East Asia as a whole and turned the entire Eastern Hemisphere into a bunch of obedient little conformist robots. Confucianism was like the original right-wing conservative ideology of ancient China and Taoism was its leftist counterpart. Confucius destroyed Eastern thought just like Aristotle destroyed Western thought.

>>2562417
Marx preferred Aristotle over Plato and Plato is the one championed by conservative and academic vermin though?

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>>2562417
Yeah one guy fucked up the east and one guy fucked up the west. Fuck the material conditions, it was some bronze age state propagandists that got us all the way here. Nice.

>>2562417
First of all, Confucian political theory holds that rulers must act morally and that people are justified in rebellion if the rulers fail their end of the bargain. Calling Chinese submissive to authority is one of the most brainlet unread western propaganda shoveling takes you can have, might as well start talking about how Israel is our greatest ally next. The Chinese historically have some of the least tolerance for oppression in government and there have been many civil wars and cleansings because of that in the last couple thousand years (Yellow Turban Rebellion, An Lushan Rebellion, Five Dynasties rebellions, Li Zicheng’s Rebellion, Zhang Xianzhong’s Rebellio etc)

Or lets compare since the US became a country (1776) vs China :

USA (1776 - 2023) : 1 Civil War
China (1776 - 2023) : 3 Changes of Government (Qing => Nationalists => PRC
5 Major Civil Wars (White Lotus, Taiping Rebellion, Boxer, Xinhai, Chinese Civil War)
Countless other rebellions & uprisings against the government

Chinese people actually rise up and overthrow their leaders as compared to the meek & mild Americans.

>>2562660
That's a poor way of thinking about it. It's like comparing Russian and English history and concluding that since Russia had more revolts it was actually less authoritarian

>>2554839
Consider this: the CCP does not like and thinks you're so dysfunctional that they would rather not have you as an ally in any sense

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I know it must be hard for a lot of you people to understand, but China is more concerned about its own national interests to be sovereign from western imperialism and secondarily to aid the development of third world countries to also become independent of the west. seeing as the US has proven itself this year to be a declining empire I think they have probably made the correct assessment that they don't need to do anything other than focus on their own shit and let the bourgeoisie continue to destroy itself.

>>2563322
they're able to fund the AFD for financial gain tho

>>2563434
mutual aid is not charity

>>2554839
to what purpose? everyone is hating on the USA and Isntreal for free. consider their options:
>spend a ton of money and get called a liar
vs.
>spend zero money and your enemies are called liars
comrade xi is on some wu wei shit you just aren't ready for. communism is inevitable, it's capitalism that needs endless violence and shilling to survive.

>>2563305
Its CPC mister Langley.

>>2554839
Maybe Chinese just dont care about western opinions and instead focus on cooperating with 3rd world countries.

>>2554844
respond to what and why.
If the west had a organized and sound comparty with a shot to take power it would make sense for the chinese to fund propaganda thinktanks etc for them but you dont what are they supposed to fund propaganda for you to win internet arguments better they spend it on a bridge somewhere.

>>2563639
I dont see any massive pro-China agitation in the 3rd world either. And if it there was it would also be on the internet for all the world to see and experience as well.

>>2563436
Mutual aid with Nazis will only end with a bigger mess than you started off with


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