/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Trotskyism is Stalin tier liberalism

Trotsky was a real revolutionary doe

>>2555732
It's so funny how Stalin in the 1910s was saying revolutionary things about how commodities couldn't exist under socialism and all of that.

>your opinions changed over the decades according to a changing world
<that obviously means you’re a sell out
Is this a bait thread or entirely sincere?

>>2556432
Various demands and slogans in Marxist orthodoxy showed to be inviable when the moment came.

- The classic slogan of abolishing the military and replacing it with worker militias proved to be inviable at the start of the Russian civil war, standing armies like the Whites ate them for breakfast.
- Getting rid of commodity production and paying peasants in kind was unsustainable. The peasantry almost revolted during War communism. It was inviable given that the Soviets had to industrialize and trade with foreign nations.
- The global revolution didn't take off and and the possibility of a revolution/socialism in one country was no longer some dismissed fantasy but a serious debate
- The ideas of free speech, free press, freedom of criticism also clashed with the brutal reality of the Russian civil war and the massive counterrevolution that was mounting by the White army, the allied intervention, the central powers and the nationalists.

I'm sure there's more out there.

>>2555732
That webm is cool and everything but in reality Trotsky was against invading Poland

>>2556772
yep. ideology always gets trumped by reality when you're forced to actually wield power and govern

>>2556772
>The ideas of free speech, free press, freedom of criticism also clashed with the brutal reality of the Russian civil war and the massive counterrevolution that was mounting by the White army, the allied intervention, the central powers and the nationalists
retarded, many countries have faced revolutions/civil wars and haven't resorted to brutal, corrupt oppression

>>2558943
You can't possibly compare the civil war in Russia to any other civil conflict

>>2558793
This is true just not to the level the bolsheviks did it, the anarchists in Ukraine proved to be an effective fighting force without resorting complete take over of the party
>>2559628
yes every civil war is unique but that doesn't mean you cant compare it other civil conflicts