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>>2554312Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet nobody cares faggot
So how long until Nick Fuentes gets hit by a car
rangeban americucks
>>2556308When I find my keys
>>2556316Honestly, looking at those people make me wonder if those "dysgenics" memes are actually true, those people look ugly and ridiculous, "doing yoga against ICE", how stupid.
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Constant capital (C):
>The part of capital invested in means of production: machinery, tools, raw materials, buildings, etc.
>It’s called “constant” because it does not create new value; it merely transfers its existing value to the final product through wear and tear or use.
Variable capital (V):
<The part of capital invested in labor power (wages).
<It’s called “variable” because commodified labor (labor-power) is the only source of new value. Through the worker’s activity, capitalists extract surplus value (S).
For Marx, all profit ultimately comes from surplus value (S), produced by labor but appropriated by capitalists.
The rate of profit (r) is defined as r = s/(c+v)
>As capitalism develops, competition pushes firms to increase productivity.
<They do this by introducing more machinery and technology, which increases constant capital (C) relative to variable capital (V). This is called a rising organic composition of capital (C/V).
>Since only variable capital (labor) produces new value, and since labor is being replaced by machines, the source of surplus value (S) shrinks relative to total capital.
<Therefore, even if the rate of exploitation (S/V) increases (workers produce more surplus per wage), the overall rate of profit (r) tends to decline over time:
r=s/(c+v) falls as c/v rises faster than s/v
>Capitalists must mechanize to stay competitive (raise productivity, lower costs).
<But mechanization reduces labor’s role, the very source of profit.
>Thus, the conditions for expansion of capital (technological advance) are also the conditions for its crisis (falling profitability).
This is why the burger billionaire beggars want a bailout and require state subsides to stay afloat. AI = constant capital and a higher ratio of constant capital to variable capital results in lower rates of profit, not higher. Listen to Cockshott talk about this.
>>2556324>>2556316just ignore these people and actually do something, instead of milking them as your personal lolcows in order to feel superior
>>2556324I think there’s a kind of middle class liberal opposition aesthetic that I’d call “Bubblegum Pop” and it’s pretty frustrating, I think, to those from a poorer socioeconomic background. It comes across as infantilizing, as deliberately childish, “Oh we’re gonna win through the power of friendship and song!” Meanwhile ICE is still brutalizing people.
It’s this intersection of pop culture and peaceful protest. But if you’re some Hispanic guy who is actually threatened by ICE, are you gonna be concerned with looking “cute” or actually resisting ICE raids?
>>2556335What can I possibly do short of individual terror? That's part of the whole point of these authoritarian campaigns, that you have no way to counter it but with violence.
>>2556340Lower class political movements always have featured frienship and chants thoughever, yeah in this case it's a bit cringe but they still are doing more than the antisocial freaks who refuse to go outside
>>2556329Schumer is uniquely terrible at his job. I think even Harry Reid would be doing better right now.
>>2556332you didn't mention the crucial part where the logic of capital pushes wages to decrease and the amount of commodities to skyrocket due to automation, leading to a surplus of labubus
>>2556324I think it's largely just that poor people tend to be ugly, and the people most affected by authoritarianism tend to be poor.
Still doesn't stop me from judging the fuck out of them showing up to a protest in a fursuit.
anyone who uses "dysgenic" as an insult is implying "eugenics" as the opposite to that. I'll let you figure out the rest. they want to exterminate people they see as their inferiors. They are social darwinists. They want Aktion T4.
>>2556363So very tired of these retarded teenage fantasies of glorified man-child tech execs
>>2556362
why do you reactionary losers always do heckin doggo pupper speak when putting words into other people's mouths? I think you guys talk like this more than anyone. I wish China the best but the US government needs to actually be opposed by people who live in the empire itself, because that is the only place the US government is hesitant to drop bombs and do coups.
>Supreme Court rejects call to overturn its decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.
honestly surprised
>>2556362
Congrats anon, the fact you do nothing truly makes you the most revolutionary person
>>2556371There's too many faggot republicans now
>>2556373
🙄
>>2556373
This is really retarded.
>>2556373
>proposes eugenics vs. dysgenics instead of proletariat vs. bourgeoisie
>gets called out for it
<UMMM ACTUALLY I WAS PROLIER THAN THOU ALL ALONG
>>2556376
> If you were actually serious about anything you would have destroyed America before you were born, but you didn't, you couldn't, and now i get to make up things you didn't say and pretend you're reddit character and generally just be an unpleasant asshole
>>2556367Do you think Communism should strive to eliminate debilitating birth defects like down syndrome, FAS, etc from the gene pool?
Because isn't that also eugenics?
shaun of the youtube channel shaun_vids xeeted out the following on bluesky:
>getting harder to argue that the establishment democrats actually care about winning and accomplishing things, isn't it. in the sense of defeating the republicans and enacting the policies they run on, anyway
and he's kinda right in a debate pervert sort of way. you cannot argue that honestly, you haven't been able to for a long time. but nonetheless the old democrats will take credit or zohran's win and will absorb and subvert the progressive trend in the democratic party. even though it's obvious to anyone who bothers to do 5 minutes of googling tht those old democrats tried to sabotage zohran. but they will co-opt zohran. they will get away with it.
>>2556382Yeah that's totally the same as calling some random person 'dysgenic' because you're a freak
>>2556384Being ugly is a birth defect. I wish I was born with the genetics that would allow me to attract a mate.
>>2556307>>2556309>>2556324>>2556342>>2556362>>2556373>>2556376Dogshit posts. Divisive and demoralizing. All edge and no point.
>>2556382Hmm if you were actually a medical researcher eliminating birth defects from the "Gene Pool" that would be great, but instead you're just an asshole calling people dysgenic to feel smug.
>>2556386> I wish I was born with the genetics that would allow me to attract a mate.my gott, the guy calling people dysgenic was an incel all along
who could have predicted this
buddy there's way more wrong with you than your looks. your personality is dogshit
what is new in the free world?????
>>2556389biggest bubble in US stock market history. 95% of GDP growth is in an industry that is mostly hype and vaporware
>>2556389Chuck the Cuck did his usual cuckening
>>2556387>you're just an asshole calling people dysgenic to feel smug.I wasn't the anon calling them dysgenic, though thinking about it I imagine the average "dysgenic" person would happily embrace eugenics if it gave them the option to be attractive. People are shallow, especially regarding their own appearance.
Except the guy in the fursuit, he probably gets off on being a weirdo and wouldn't wanna be anything else.
>>2556388>your personality is dogshitHow the fuck do you know lol we're just strangers on the internet anon.
>>2556399>paradis islandlol
>>2556386Until you did a genuine "looksmaxx", you can't say you're ugly, try looksmaxx for a full years and come back
>>2556406bro tryna gatekeep ugliness 💀💀💀
>>2556324People want too much porn and think everyone should be models
>>2556386>Being ugly is a birth defect.There lies the problem of eugenics. that everything they want to "eliminate from the gene pool" isn't an objective truth lmao.
>>2556324>Honestly, looking at those people make me wonder if those "dysgenics" memes are actually true, those people look ugly and ridiculous, "doing yoga against ICE", how stupid.You can't see any of their faces, it's just their costumes that look ridiculous, which is obviously intentional.
>>2556371They need to keep the Gay Republicans until AFTER they succesfully manufacture consent for and subsequently enact trans genocide.
Also Peter Thiel
>>2556436I think this type of protests is stupid and very theatrical without really changing anything, it's pointless in the end
>>2556422>deformation is subjective broAbsolute state of this citizen
>>2556441why did china stole our electricities?
>>2556439yeah well so is going on an imageboard and calling people dysgenic
>>2556441Is it aligned with wages somehow? Because if not the chinese pay more than the americans since they earn less than half what the burgers do. Also new nuclear power is really a drop in the bucket I'm not sure it's even worth mentioning.
>>2556444yeah of course the chinese workers are still poorer than the american workers, but their wages are growing faster, and their costs are decreasing faster.
>>2556371>honestly surprised>>2556374>There's too many faggot republicans nowYuuuup, I'm not surprised and this is why. My dad was telling me a few weeks ago "they're going to ban gay marriage!!!", and I was like nah. Meh! He looked at me like I was crazy but he didn't even know Scott Bessent is gay. But he's a Republican so he doesn't get the "first ever" celebratory treatment. Gays are pretty well absorbed into the superstructure now.
>>2556427>Al Qaeda head chopper!!!Mommy I'm scared. But he actually fought the U.S. and went to prison for it unlike Ben Rubinstein.
>>2556399What happens in the incel resettlement zone?
>>2556448incel battle royale OR incel commune
>>2556446It's pretty funny seeing you shill for sharaa in every thread. Any time he is mentioned you come to his defense. You know you can be against assad without defending this guy right?
>>2556393>millennialsWeird they are targeting millennials over gen z. Not saying there aren’t a lot of millennials sympathetic to socialism but gen z seems a lot more radical.
>>2556452well then that just bolsters my point
>>2556453>You know you can be against assad without defending this guy right?Telling him this only enables his liberalism to be more sinister but thankfully he will not listen because he is CIA so he must shill for the headchopper
>>2556399>Mr.Beast IslandFounded by the visionary MrBeast as the biggest ever recycling project by coalescing all of the world's buoyant refuse into a floating continent-sized raft to build on top of. The startup continent is populated mainly by a pygmy assortment of orphans as part of a joint MrBeast/WEF effort to build the first and last global orphanage and "the biggest jobs program ever, you guys!"
After the initial foundations were laid by the hardworking natives, MrBeast Island expanded the business to all other manner of waste. A renewable energy project on it's vast
land mass was closure-d recently on the island after a Minister of Beast declared it "faggy" and "cringe" during the bi-anual visit to the Beastly Palace.
The small nimble hands and bodies of the pollution stunted natives are perfect to separate the good bits from the chaff which can be safely discarded to the depths after being fused to heavier materials during incineration. Thanks to this foundational compromise with recycling and environmentalism, Beast Corp, proprietary of the Island (and all it's inhabitants) has become one of the prime movers of the Trumpian Empire
stock market. Despite the many innovative initiatives, the budget is mainly funded by green credits, of which it is the main worldwide recipient.
MrBeast's Island has harbored controversy as of late, regarding the alleged sales of child sex slaves, who later turned out to be particularly stunted natives of age. A Trumpian Empire committee of Industry representatives is mulling disciplinary action for false advertisement, in the name of self-regulation and Corporate social responsibility(CSR).
Flood detected, post discarded.
>>2556354I get his point but he’s wrong about “the ancients” and their values. Empires almost always end up like this.
>>2556464Its not about Muslim man bad
A drug-trafficking money-laundering convicted felon, with a family connection to Trump's son-in-law, who was commuted by Trump in 2021, has been sentenced to 27 months in prison after a litany of new accusations: assaulting a child, further drug trafficking, swinging an IV pole at a nurse, dodging tolls while driving his Lamborghini and Ferrari around Long Island and both physically and sexually assaulting his live-in nanny.
https://archive.ph/QbPfHWe love our mafia state, don't we folkkks?
>>2556467
It’s really pathetic that you people have a one-sided parasocial feud with an imageboard poster.
Go outside.
>>2556467
>"Deporter in chief"
I think that was only referred to Obama, and was activists who called him that way.
>>2556467
Breathe bro
>treats
Oh it's one of those
>>2556474Why the fuck does he type like that?
>>2556464You a islamist lmao
>>2556464didn't jolani surrender syrian territory to israel as soon as he replaced assad? seems pretty convenient for america and israel, no? how can you shill for this guy with a straight face?
see video, particularly,
10:50 HTS leader al-Jolani wants peace with Israel
13:35 (CLIP) HTS refuses to criticize Israel
17:10 CIA armed & trained Syrian rebels
17:43 Syrian rebels vow neoliberal "free-market" shock therapy
>>2556464>You know the Taliban also cheered his victory. is that supposed to be a good sign
>You know the Taliban also cheered his victory. sharaa is pro-zionist
>>2556363the idea itself is great (and not his), we're just pathetically short of a robot capable of the task
>>2556464god daMn arabs know how to fuken party. sick beats, sick moves, sick live music with sick political messages
>>2556467
>and you will pay for it
based
>>2556344Not saying the alternative to what they're doing now should be "don't do anything" mind you, but it gets me thinking about the effectiveness of protest out here.
I'm gonna be totally honest here: I can't recall much of any effective protest in the United States in living memory. The liberal ones especially. If we're gonna be totally honest I think the only time I can recall an actually
effective protest, as in, got most of its demands met, it'd be the Bundy Ranch Standoff. Literally in that case you had dudes taking positions ready to shoot feds at a moment's notice. It was an
armed protest.
I think this goes back to the liberal mindset in which "words matter" for lack of a better term. I remember arguing with a liberal years ago and I had this moment of clarity because they kept arguing "Unlike the USSR, in America you can express different views!" And its like, that's a totally passive conception of politics. I've used the metaphor of parents asking their kids if they want to go to, I dunno, McDonalds or have dinner at home, and even if the kids keep chanting "McDonalds! McDonalds!" Their parent already decided they're just going to eat something simple at home. It's the illusion of choice. Sometimes it isn't even an illusion and more a naked lie; when your boss says "We hear you, we feel you" after firing you, it's obvious he doesn't give a fuck. "We hear you" is corpospeak for "I'll pretend to be sympathetic but my decision is final". Its all about listening and talking, but never effecting change.
The Cons just think they're in a holy war so they show up with guns. Libs think that being cutesy enough will endear them to people and "elevate their voice" or "make them stand out".
>>2556479Lots of people don't know this but the Trumps are distant relatives of the Chandlers. Trump has the Chris-Chan gene, but its a weakened version of it. Read all his tweets in GenoSamuel's voice and it becomes obvious.
>>2556332Has anyone been able to rectify LTV with Art and Antiques yet? They were problem areas for Marx, I know
GOV SHUTDOWN DEAL CANCELLED!!! REPUBLICAN RAND PAUL OBJECTS TO THE DEAL!
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5598910-government-shutdown-rand-paul-hemp/Senate Republican and Democratic leaders say they need to resolve an objection from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) about a provision in the government funding deal before they can accelerate consideration of the bill to end the 41-day shutdown.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) told reporters Monday morning there is only one “objector” to speeding up Senate consideration of the government funding package, referring to Paul, who wants to strip a provision from the package that would prevent the unregulated sale of intoxicating hemp-based products.
A spokesperson for Paul said the Kentucky senator wants to reopen the government right away, but he has a major problem with provisions in the bill that “unfairly target Kentucky’s hemp industry.”
“Dr. Rand Paul affirms his commitment to reopening the government without delay. However, he objects to the inclusion of provisions in the government-funding package that unfairly target Kentucky’s hemp industry,” the aide said.
>>2556474>10 grand bribe from the U.S. president to scabThat’s new
>>2556506It's only a symbolic bribe, already represented by the amount Americans have saved thanks to tariffs
>>2556507>>2556503Rand Paul of all people bailing out the Dems and keeping them fighting against Trump is something that could only happen in this day and age
>>2556501under the right conditions, the labor input of a commodity grows with age like with fermentation
>>2556501You're shoving a square peg into a round hole and then claiming the square peg is malformed because it can't fit into the round hole. The so called "labor theory of value" is from classical political economy, Smith and Ricardo, and before them similar ideas were put forward by philosophers like Aristotle, Ibn Khaldun, and Thomas Aquinas. But Marx's theory of value is a theory whose domain is are industrialized mass production of commodities under capitalism, and whose components are socially necessary labor time, and commodified labor, called labor-power. It is not a theory meant to predict the market prices of antiques and one-of-a-kind pieces of artwork. it is a theory simply meant to demonstrate that the profits of commodity production under capitalism come primarily from the exploitation of labor, rather than simply from merchant's capital (buying cheap and selling dear), or usury, or rent.
>>2556491Yes there will be a reckoning for Yankee chauvinists. You all delude yourselves into thinking that the world will just let you get away with it but that's not what will happen. Much like the Tsar's cossacks you will be liquidated.
>>2556515more precisely, it takes labor to preserve and maintain something. Wine aging requires fixed capital like cellars, as well as the correct temperature, etc.
>>2556480I just don't want you to get trapped in a whack-ass cope world like Iranian monarchists who post meme pictures of ritzy hotel pools from the 70s do
>>2556481>>2556484I haven't seen a single Zionist support Sharaa.
>>2556484All these idiots cheered on the Taliban, the very Taliban that inspired the Syrian jihad to begin with. Now they're attacking people in Syria for taking inspiration from the Taliban.
>>2556520>I haven't seen a single Zionist support Sharaa. the CIA materially supported Sharaa as demonstratd in the video, and CIA is zionist.
>>2556522Find me an Israeli
>>2556501It only ever applied to mass produced commodities on shelves at the time they were being sold tbh
>>2556503Say what you will about the Pauls, but them actually having something resembling an ethos or belief system means that in a few bright cases they can end up doing the right thing.
>>2556523why is that the goalpost when the same people who patronize israel patronize sharaa? why do i need to find a rank and file israeli citizen loudly cheering for sharaa when what I am saying is that sharaa is a useful idiot for america and israel, even if they do not praise him?
FUCK THE DEMON RATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2556532the junior is inferior to the elder and neither of them are that worth writing home about. when rand paul lamented forever wars in the 2016 GOP primary, he lamented the loss of american "blood and treasure" in the middle east (his words, eerily similar to blood and soil) far more than he lamented or even acknowledged the victims of US imperialism. now one might say this rhetoric is necessary for a GOP primary, but then you have to ask yourself, why are those people his target audience?
>>2556520>I haven't seen a single Zionist support Sharaa. >Ex-Mossad Chief Admits Israel Giving Medical Aid to Al Nusra Front TerroristsPalestinians know full well whom al-qaeda/ISIS work for.
the only ones inventing that al-zionlani ever fought ISIS, and more recently got into the conspiracy theory of an assassination plot made by ISIS to kill al-ziolani are the hasbarists/mossad
https://www.maariv.co.il/news/world/article-1250518.
either you are fully hasbared, or you are a sunni guy with a small piece of heart in the west simping over a headchopper.
>>2556538I mean he's a libertarian and I genuinely don't think he cares or considers the victims of American Imperialism as his primary concern. Shit, IIRC he even said Californians like me don't deserve any federal relief during earthquakes 'cause "Well you
chose to live in a place known for Earth Quakes!" But at the end of the day I'd say whether he cares or not is irrelevant to the fact that ending the forever wars would be good for the victims of U.S. Imperialism regardless.
Like let me put it like this. I work with an older conservative guy. Somehow the topic of Israel came up. He said "Well we shouldn't give Israel money/weapons because they're already going to do what they do regardless of whether we support them or not." Now, that's an incorrect position in the sense that Israel only can do what they do because of U.S. arms/support, but what matters to me is that he'd support ending that support even if for the wrong reasons than continuing it.
Like I've got more respect for the conservatives that fume about the fact we're sending Israel "OUR MONEY" even if they don't notice or care about the sheer destruction Israel is waging then I do for the liberals who can look at all these people Israel is murdering and say "Well, it's just a really complicated affair" while continuing to support them to the hilt. Like you have Democrats right now who acknowledge what Israel is doing is a genocide, then spin it as "Well it's still Hamas' fault that the Israelis are genociding people." I think that's way more horrifying than the fucking misers that grumble over cents.
>>2556543>I mean he's a libertarian and I genuinely don't think he cares or considers the victims of American Imperialism as his primary concernThat is the problem I was articulating.
> Shit, IIRC he even said Californians like me don't deserve any federal relief during earthquakes 'cause "Well you chose to live in a place known for Earth Quakes!"I also recall Ron Paul fans in the 2012 GOP primary cheering out loud when a debate moderator asked Ron Paul if uninsured people should just be allowed to die.
> But at the end of the day I'd say whether he cares or not is irrelevant to the fact that ending the forever wars would be good for the victims of U.S. Imperialism regardless. Yes of course.
>Like let me put it like this. I work with an older conservative guy. Somehow the topic of Israel came up. He said "Well we shouldn't give Israel money/weapons because they're already going to do what they do regardless of whether we support them or not." Now, that's an incorrect position in the sense that Israel only can do what they do because of U.S. arms/support, but what matters to me is that he'd support ending that support even if for the wrong reasons than continuing it. Right.
>Like I've got more respect for the conservatives that fume about the fact we're sending Israel "OUR MONEY" even if they don't notice or care about the sheer destruction Israel is waging then I do for the liberals who can look at all these people Israel is murdering and say "Well, it's just a really complicated affair" while continuing to support them to the hilt. Yes.
> Like you have Democrats right now who acknowledge what Israel is doing is a genocide, then spin it as "Well it's still Hamas' fault that the Israelis are genociding people." I think that's way more horrifying than the fucking misers that grumble over cents.Yes.
I'm just pointing out how bleak this state of affairs is. There's a lack of care. It's like how the Milgram experiments showed people were more willing to torture other human beings as long as they didn't have to witness it happening.
>>2556532the only thing they have is irrelevance. with irrelevance they, and anyone, can have a straight record.
>>2556534Israel has been lobbying to maintain sanctions on Syria, and some of the most pro-Israel politicians in the U.S. have been trying to maintain the so-called "Caesar sanctions," and they're weirdo propagandists like Laura Loomer are saying the same shit about Sharaa as Benjamin Rubinstein.
>>2556542You're a retarded conspiracy theorist living in a butthurt cope world.
>>2556523Itai Melchior and Nir Boms are israelis on atlantic council and they support headchopper. Bibi himself said the counter-revolutionary ousing of Assad made normalization of syria and zionists possible. Gay nazi, you are a zionist.
Kash Patel’s GF files $5 million lawsuit against podcaster for ‘insinuation’ she’s Mossad honeypot
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/11/10/kash-patels-gf-lawsuit-podcasters-mossad/>>2556553>You're a retarded conspiracy theorist living in a butthurt cope world.nice deflection. I presented the evidence, Palestinians highlighting how alqaeda/ISIS operate, ex-Mossad chief saying how they provided healthcare to alqaeda/ISIS, and now how the hasbara media are trying to portrait a ISIS person (al-ziolani) as if his going to fight ISIS, and that "ISIS is trying to kill al-ziolani".
lmao I finally exposed you as one ideological fraudster. keep dickriding the mossad, genocide apologist.
>>2556558I really doubt Palestinians generally dislike Sharaa. Most supported ousting Assad. People also call Hamas terrorists and head choppers and blah blah blah, but they know better.
>>2556570I mean. Yeah. That's what they partied for instead of organizing.
>>2556555She's totally mossad. No way in hell a guy like Kash Patel could pull a chick like that without some kind of funny business happening or significant amounts of money
>>2556570It's like Liberal 9/11
>>2556553>Israel has been lobbying to maintain sanctions on Syria, and some of the most pro-Israel politicians in the U.S. have been trying to maintain the so-called "Caesar sanctions," and they're weirdo propagandists like Laura Loomer are saying the same shit about Sharaa as Benjamin Rubinstein.this is not the full picture, zionistland has nuanced positions, including lifting the sanctions as a pragmatic security decision, as long al ziolani co-operates with them (he will, he's a good puppy). they would like to invade Syria fully, they simply can't, because there are other lobbies at stake, and it would weak zionistland from other factions like Hezbollah. so they have to cope with cautiously co-operate with nato's (turkiye) ally in Damascus, knowing that nato protects zionistland interests.
>>2556567lawl, no they don't. they see him warily, cautiously. They know where he came from, and his recent statements, and his actions against Palestinians refugees in Syria.
>>2556548>I'm just pointing out how bleak this state of affairs is. There's a lack of care. It's like how the Milgram experiments showed people were more willing to torture other human beings as long as they didn't have to witness it happening.Not to get preachy, but to me, y'know you can call it residual Catholicism but I don't carry these high expectations of people. We had a man over 2000 years ago preaching peace and love to your fellow man and we murdered him. People sin, they make hypocrites of themselves, they have inconsistent values, incoherent beliefs.
Yet in spite of that I think what matters is the work people put in. It might be that Ron Paul doesn't care about the victims of imperialism, I wish notable politicians did, but at the very least his position is better, it tries to push back on the jingoistic crusader narratives of Neocons.
There's a concept in Catholicism called "The Hermeneutics of Charity", I try (and sometimes fail) to apply it in these cases. It's to assume, sometimes naively, the best in people and the strongest case for their arguments. To assume their motives are straightforward. Libertarians may care more about treasure and "our own blood" over the blood of others, but I will try to see at least some rationality in that concern rather than solely the failure to stand up for others, and in that case it falls on the Left to show that humanity to other people, to call attention not just to our own spilled blood but the blood of countless innocents overseas.
>>2556501Art and antiques within capitalism are ficticious capital commodity fetishes. Saying art and antiques were problem areas for Marx is like saying Marx failed to account for slot machines. Gambling has nothing to do with capitalist production.
>>2556553htc syria is a cucked state that wants to befriend israel despite israelis wanting to keep syria divided and destroyed
>>2556585>Art and antiques within capitalism are ficticious capital commodity fetishesyou aren't using the terms fictitious capital or commodity fetishism correctly. Do some reading please:
https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/f/i.htm#fictitious-capitalhttps://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/f/e.htm#fetishismsuperior explanations to yours were already given here:
>>2556516 >>2556580Its impossible to tell. The BLS stopped making reports since august because of shutdown
>>2556611Definitely not a cause for alarm
>>2556611You will own nothing and you will be happy. Capitalism 4 LIFE
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