New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.New Noj rants on Lenin's Government. Key takeaways are as follows Lenin abandoned his ideals from State and Revolution, that being a state that eliminates the alienation caused by the difference between worker and politician that is prevalent in bourgeoisie democracy, due to the civil war. But kept the elimination of the distinction of different branches of government and that the idea that all political conflict arises from different class interests. The state was separated into two halves the Soviet Government and the Party with a matching set of hierarchy. With the goal of the party to guide the government, but as time went on the distinction between the too blurred. With the Politburo becoming the head of state due to its quick ability to create and pass laws as compared the slow bureaucratic soviet government. The party at all times dominated the government and prevented from any real change in policy from it. Finn ally the party was highly undemocratic as getting into the party required to be approved by other party members and any deviation in ideas could resulting in expulsion.
I watched that video and that guy has a huge bibliography with a lot of sources and a way more rigorous approach than most 'tubers but a lot people probably won't like him because of his conclusions. He even learned Russian and goes through soviet archives by hand.
you wrote the same thing twice. did you copy paste your opening text from chatGPT?
>>2558370no I wrote it in open office and accidentally pasted it twice
>>2558375>no I wrote it in open office and accidentally pasted it twiceah, gotcha. i think an interesting part of your video that the opening text doesn't mention is the role played by Lenin's assassination attempt and strokes, since his participation in sovnarkom and little sovnarkom were crucial, as well as the growing power of the secretariat after his death.
>>2558366sucks that hes a trotskyite.
>>2558383I've watched all his videos and I don't get the impression that he's even a communist, let alone a Trotskyist. He seems to have a mostly specialist academic interest in early soviet history. Are you getting this impression from his discord or something I maybe haven't seen?
also expansion of beauracracy was always a concerned and topic of discussion. a lot the party theorists gave materialist explanations on why russia had needed so many beauraacrats
>>2558390oh. i thought he would be a communist based on the amount of extensive research he's done. i remember him making subtle shades at stalin and thought it was just his bias letting through with his tone of objectivity.
>>2558403the video proves there is something towards the ideas of the "Stalin school of falsifaction" not that trotsky was right about everything or good in any way. He made that clear in the video
>>2558390He's not a communist he's just autistic.
>>2558411yeah i rewatched that one and he says that towards the end, but you gotta admit that's one clickbaity thumbnail
>>2565789……..unexpected lol
I was already wondering what leftypol thought of him. Hopefully you aren‘t getting your panties in a bunch just because not all that he says is favorable to the USSR and Lenin.
>>2565795A lot of Tankies got really upset when he first posted here. Calling him a trotskyist, anti communist, CIA, Oct. Not really providing any substantial critique. Now they are just ignoring him in hopes any post about him goes away.
>>2558411highly doubt there is such a thing, but i don't doubt stalin, like trotsky, and any political force to ever exist falsified shit for their own benefits.
>>2566660Its questionable how much stalin falsified, but we do that it happened.
>>2566671sure, but the whole school of falsification is just a justification to do sweep bans against anything Stalin.
now, misinformation is part of politics, trotsky, too falsified and made up an testament that he said at prior time was false, if it makes you more powerful even if its a lie or a falsification its what you do.
>>2566689Can I ask you what trotsky falsified?
>>2558358I think one thing the video misses is the fact that the "Soviet Government" as it existed wasn't ever supposed to be a permanent state of affairs. It was essentially a slap-dashed thing put together after after the sudden success of the October Revolution. But after the German Revolution failed the bolsheviks were left holding the bill so to speak. So I can only really shrug at alot of his criticisms because he seems to be under the assumption that Lenin's project was a permanent Soviet state apparatus rather than a temporary structure meant to carry Russia over the socialist finish line. Once the world revolution was closed off permanently the Bolsheviks whole world view at that point was in crisis and alot of changes had to be made at a point in time where Lenin's health was declining massively, so saying that Lenin was too egotistical or such to give up power I think is wrong. Its more that he only realized that the entire system had to be changed only after it was too late, really Lenin approving of the formation of the USSR in 1922 at all was a compromise from him. Initally at the 10th congress Lenin told Trotsky to oppose the integration of Georgia because Lenin didn't want the return of Russian chauvinism but he relented after since he was literally dying. It then became almost impossible for him to actually implement changes when running against party opposition practically because he didn't really have the energy to do anything other than sit in his dacha. Lenin really only had alot of managable political power during the civil war, and once it ended he was far to sick to refound the entire government as was needed and no one other than him had enough political legitimacy to operate such a task without Lenin dying first and creating a power vacuum. So in the end Stalin was able to consolidate power primarily because the position of general-secretary was an afterthought in a temporary jury rigged system that wasn't even supposed to last as long as it did. There are definitely criticisms to be had for a lack of long-term thinking but I think the video judges Lenin with the benefit of hindsight far too much.
>>2566703already told in the text as an example, he adamantly denied that such document existed but when it became useful claimed was real when the only text pointed is one where Lenin is pissed off at everyone and specially stalin for talking shit to his wife.
also an testament is meaningless, after all who chooses the Gensec where the party and the soviets and not lenin, it was just a power play, useful for trotsky but a falsehood.
>>2566725Not that anon but Stalin was a retarded Georgian mafioso who killed all the actual communists in the USSR. Once that happened any reforms became impossible because every communist was dead and replaced with braindead cocksuckers who only knew how to grovel. Quit defending the retard who left the communists in Greece & Korea out to dry because he was a coward who gave up every inch possible in the cold war. Collectivization was retarded and his policy of social fascism caused the Nazi's to rise to power in germany aswell. Truly he was the architect of the USSR's demise and its a wonder why anyone defends that brainlet. Trotsky was dumb aswell before you call me a Trot find some other boogeyman.
>>2566732>Not that anon but Stalin was a retarded Georgian mafioso who killed all the actual communists in the USSR.(bunch of spergposting that is worth no time)completely idiotic positions based on fallacies, distortions and no actual facts, an waste of time.
thanks for contribution to the discussion about how people will use lies and falsifications to strenghten their positions with no material factology behind with an actual example, seek a book and not a cold war indoctrination manual thanks.
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