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I can’t be the only comrade worried about this.

Iran, which has been at the forefront of fighting Zionism and global imperialism, may have to relocate millions of people from Tehran in the next few weeks as the capital city faces a massive water crisis. Tehran is running out of water and the only option the government has is to move its people. Iran may very well have to establish a new capital city closer to a water source. This means spending a ton of money the country doesn’t have.

But it doesn’t stop there. The West and the Zios are already taking advantage of this looming disaster. Once Iran is in a state of crisis the CIA will certainly fund a new colour revolution to overthrow the revolutionary Islamic government and replace it with a western puppet, most likely the ousted Shah’s son. The Zionist entity is mocking Iran and “offering” desalinization plants in exchange that the revolutionary government sell out the Palestinian people and recognize the Zionist settler-colony as “legitimate.” This is disgusting. So far, no one else is offering Iran any aid, not even China.

I fear for both the people of Iran and the state of global anti-imperialism because of this.

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>>2558606
I want to cavort with young harlots! I want to flim flam the world!

>>2558606
Caspian sea is like the least salty sea in the world. If Israel can desalinate then why cant Iran do it?

>>2558835
Idk but it’s not a solution anymore, their water is running out in like 9 days. They need emergency supplies, probably from Russia

Maybe all the communists they killed wouldn't have mismanaged the water just saying

>>2558848
True but we need the Shia regime to survive for now, or else Israel gets free reign over ME

It's ok if you say it anywhere else,if you want me to get banned try to ban me for example on Instagram or 4chan first

>2025
>still defending IRGCucks
lol
lmao

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lol

They're botching their geopolitics so bad. Their only realistic way out is to drop the dumb "Sword of Islam" shit and become a communist country fully aligned with Russia-China and implement SWIC (Socialism with Iranian Characteristics)

>>2558926
>their only way out is to become a neoliberal state
Yeah that ship has sailed buddy they've been one for 4 decades now

it's okay, China will build them a new tier-1 city capital

>>2558926
Iranian bourgeoise doesn't care if their people die. The only reason they even "resist" Pissrael is because it threatens their power and nothing else.

Honestly I'm banking on the collapse of Islamic Republic for a chance at a regional revolution where I live

It's either revolution or extinction for us

Related

Centrifugal & Centripetal Forces

>I. Forces


Broadly, the centripetal-centrifugal framework is about scale. Much in our lives cannot be determined by us as individuals — we inadvertently must coordinate with others (or otherwise participate in coordination as consumers, followers, etc).2 Generally, such coordination is often done through recursive hierarchies.3 I refer to forces that increase the size of this coordinating body as centripetal, in that they are pushing for a centralization of coordination through a single larger hierarchy. An alternative terminology could refer to a ‘scaling up’ of coordination.

On the other hand, there are forces running counter to this — which render it more difficult to coordinate at large scales.4 These forces are centrifugal, as they disperse coordination (and therefore power) away from the center on to new smaller hierarchies on the periphery, or even on to individuals. These forces reduce the scale of coordination.

An important claim in the previous essay (and foundational to the rest of the argument) is that the balance between centrifugal and centripetal forces has tipped strongly towards the former. I didn’t expand on this greatly, but this is referring to several trends. The first pertain to local factors, such as the internal pathologies of the Islamic Republic’s ruling clique and the external war being waged against it by foreign powers. But more importantly, it is referring to the general crisis in coordination throughout the world.

This is a somewhat slippery issue to define, but in broad strokes it is the decline in the ability of those without power to coordinate in order to advance their collective interests. While economic inequality has deepened in the last few decades, those on the lower levels of the economic and power hierarchy have become less able to impose their collective will.5

Climate change is probably the easiest prism for understanding this issue. On one side, a growing proportion of humanity has an immediate short-term interest in reducing carbon emissions, while everyone has a long-term interest in doing so. On the other side, a proportion of the capitalist class (already a minority) has a short-term interest in maintaining business-as-usual, or at least not being a first-mover in reducing their own emissions. This is actually a staggeringly uneven balance of forces. Nonetheless, the short-term fossil-capitalist interests, a minority within a minority, are able to absolutely dominate.

The Israeli extermination campaign in Gaza is another example.6 Even in the United States, a mostly pro-Israel country, public opinion is turning against Israel. Nevertheless, this turn in public opinion is fairly inconsequential, as the pro-Israel elite is able to easily dominate over the increasingly Israel-critical majority.7

One (flawed) way to phrase this coordination problem is simply as the ‘decline of the left,’ as the socialist bloc, communist parties, social-democratic parties, economic nationalists in the global south, unions, etc. all represented organized efforts by those on the bottom rungs of social hierarchies to coordinate and advance their collective interests.8 The fact that a large, dispersed, and individually-weak majority will often lose to a well-organized and individually-strong minority is a longstanding observation by social theorists — but it has been a long time since the problem has generally been this bad.

But to expand the idea further, the crisis described above is also part and parcel to a wider fragmentation of society and isolation of individuals. As the masses have become collectively weaker, they have also grown increasingly distant from each other.

An older literature, represented by Robert Putnam’s Bowling Alone, has long documented this decline in sociality. Individuals participate less in unions, religious institutions, and other civic associations. Individuals are less likely to know their neighbors, they have less friends, work in smaller workplaces, marry less (or later), and have less children. Whether declining sociality is a cause or consequence of declining capacity for collective action — it has made it even harder for regular individuals to coordinate to advance their interests.

II. Iranian Centrifuges and Centrifugals

To zoom out, this is the background basis for the claim that centrifugal forces are outweighing centripetal forces in Iran. It is the local pathologies (the internal and international political context) and the general global breakdown in the ability of individuals to achieve collective action.9 With such a drastic change in the background conditions, a previously ‘normal’ occurrence like the collapse of the Iranian state (which has occurred many times, including at least twice in the 20th century), can lead to a different outcome than in the past.

Individuals cooperate to coordinate via larger groups like unions, neighborhood councils, NGOs, political parties, secret societies, and so on. The state is the scaling up of this to its highest degree, to endow a particular entity with sovereign power in order to resolve the coordination problem between these larger groups. If individuals are no longer capable of creating and maintaining these intermediating groups (like mass parties), it is unclear how individuals could construct a new state in a vacuum.

The state becomes something like a leftover vestigial technology from an ancient advanced alien civilization. A technology that we can still keep running, but that no one alive remembers how to build again from scratch.

This framework has implications for how individuals should participate responsibility in political life. The background conditions are of massive centrifugal forces, like a gravitational well tearing societies apart into entropy. Meaningful political action (that is, serious attempts to collectively organize those without power), must push in the opposite direction. Such action must be centripetal, constructing centralizing structures that allow individuals to coordinate through democratic hierarchies.10

Although not framed under these terms, Vincent Bevins’s seminal book If We Burn is a decade-long catalogue of individuals undertaking centrifugal politics en masse, then becoming bewildered as everything they care about becomes worse as a result of their actions. The centerpiece of the book is the Brazilian movement for free public transit. In their attempts to tear down the (deeply imperfect) incumbent socio-political hierarchy built through the Workers’ Party, the anarchists and leftists comprising the movement watched in horror as their actions sparked the rise of Bolsonaro and the Brazilian far-right.

The book’s critical insight is that when existing hierarchies are torn apart, it is difficult to construct alternatives. This was always true, but now much more so because of the background decline in sociality and increased challenges to collective coordination.

As a baseline, the centrifugal forces of entropy dominate. While the lumbering masses try to organize; smaller hierarchies comprised of the incumbent rich and powerful can move quickly to establish their dominance and re-wire the political domain to their advantage, permanently. In a competition between individuals, those starting with the most resources will win. This is an obvious fact. In a one-on-one political fight, you will not defeat a billionaire — or even a multi-millionaire. If your movement simply seeks to smash an existing hierarchy into a thousand pieces, you are simply setting the stage for a fight between you and your friends against people much more powerful than you. The only path for collective action is through centripetal politics.

The paragraphs above connect to Iran because the overwhelming mode of political participation for Iranians is through centrifugal politics. This is especially true in the diaspora. While most diaspora activism is grifting and clout-chasing, its only tangible impact is to render the existing state more illegitimate.

Some practical tips from this essay: when you are at a protest or other political event — ask yourself if it is contributing to centrifugal or centripetal forces. Is there a defined organization you can join? Is it constitutive of a democratic hierarchy that allows you to be led and to lead others? Does it create opportunities for you to be trained? Is it a starting point for the creation of a new social milieu beyond the occasional event? Is it generating a coordination mechanism that allows you to solve collective action problems with those around you? To eventually govern? If not, your actions can functionally only generate more entropy. Despite your deepest wishes and desires, your actions will make things worse.

The thesis here is most definitely not that you must have constructive solutions in order to criticize. That is irrelevant. It is perfectly fine to be part of a force that only criticizes — as long as you are part of an organizational form with a democratic hierarchy that is expanding in scale.

We must always recall the fundamental problem with the existing Islamic Republic: that it is a vehicle for a minority (the Islamist elite and the wider Islamist social pillar) to monopolize power. A democratic and progressive replacement is a much larger political hierarchy that allows for the majority to participate in governing society. Simply destroying the existing state runs in the opposite direction, ensuring that even smaller hierarchies than the Islamic Republic can emerge to dominate Iran. Much like the Brazilians and Egyptians in If We Burn, Iranians may burn down the bad in order for worse to emerge. We may one day witness diaspora supporters of the Woman-Life-Freedom movement watch in horror as the Taliban rolls into Khorasan and the Iranian plateau enters its own terminal Warlord Era.

https://aliterrenoire.substack.com/p/centrifugal-and-centripetal-forces

Someone tell Khameni to raise the blue flag of righteous thirst.

>>2558995
Good luck to you, man. Wish you the best. Honestly.

Don't worry they're secretly using that water to train a super antizionist ai

>>2558606
No this is Malthusian eco-fascist propaganda man does not have to live within ecological constraints that's neolbieral austerity there's no such thing as fossil water either it falls from the sky come on man just keep pumping India will be fine the Ogallala Aquifer will be fine ignore the doomers we're gonna touch the stars.

>>2559190
thank you for gracing us with your presence chairman maupin

>>2558848
if burgers had just left mossadegh alone, instead of reinstating the shah, the clerical "revolution" which massacred communists would never have happened

The glorious Iranian clergy prefer spending money doing neo-Persian anti-West slop rather than helping its population

>>2559237
Iran will outlast your fake county.

>>2559262
>>>/pol/

>>2559290
Iran has several thousand years old history, your burgerland has 300. You aren't even civilized yet, you are a cave dweller with nukes, a half-sapient egotistical monke.

>>2558606
Multipolarity will solve this.

>>2559298
get outta here

>>2558835
Caspian is drying up quickly though.

>>2559230
Okay, but how does Iran solve its water crisis now under the circumstances they’re currently in?

>>2559340
Stop wasting 90% of water on agriculture and import food from Russia or China.

>>2559342
Russia is too busy fighting a damn war.

Maybe they should have been working on that instead of spending all their State resources crushing leftist groups.

>most likely the ousted Shah’s son
lmao wtf

>>2558606
>Iran, which has been at the forefront of fighting Zionism and global imperialism
Where?

>>2559433
Spooked idiots who live in fantasy land and this some conflict between good and evil again. That's also why you see the random Russia and China shilling.

Why are they getting water from a dam? You can get free water by turning on the sink.

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>>2559433
>Israel has confirmed that its covert operation against Iran, named 'Rising Lion', draws inspiration from the iconography of Iran's pre-1979 monarchy under the Shah in what appears to be a calculated act of psychological warfare and ideological provocation.

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-confirms-rising-lion-name-linked-irans-shah-flag

>>2559350
Russia has a grain surplus though and is a large wheat exporter


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