There's a lot of memes about the chinese century and such but realistically when do you guys think the us will collapse. Will it be in our lifetime? Feel like some religious idiot waiting for the rapture
>Will it be in our lifetime?
Depends on what you mean by collapse. The hegemonic position of the U.S. will, I believe anyway, absolutely end within our life time. But overall I would expect a protracted, asymmetrical decline over outright “collapse”.
>>2561504It's never gonna go away entirely. Russia is still around, it has some relevance, might even reconstruct the USSR at some point. It's just too awesome for geographical reasons. Pakistan or Nigeria will never have the resources or water security that America has no matter how many hundreds of millions they have in population.
With that said, things are already so much worse for America than most people realize because they are not insane news addicts. They do not have a hegemonic world position at in 2025 already. They do not have the best technology. They do not have military production. The revered media dominance is also slipping away. They do still have many guano rats who will make lives worse for millions of people, but there are next to none being made anymore. They will run out for natural reasons and that will be the end of it. America will be a country rather than the bourgeois country.
2030–2034:
<The United States faces accelerating decline in global influence, while China consolidates its position as the dominant regional power in East Asia. The European Union fractures into competing blocs amid rising racial and ethnic tensions, sparking civil unrest and localized conflicts. Russia exploits the EU’s disintegration to expand influence over Eastern Europe and critical energy networks. Militaries increasingly rely on AI-driven systems and autonomous platforms, reshaping strategic calculations.
2035–2038:
<As its hegemony erodes, the United States adopts an aggressive posture toward Taiwan. AI-assisted surveillance, autonomous naval and aerial systems, and rapid decision-making tools amplify the risk of miscalculation. Naval deployments and targeted provocations escalate tensions, while diplomatic channels collapse and traditional alliances weaken.
2039–2040:
<A U.S.-initiated confrontation in the Taiwan Strait spirals into full-scale global conflict. Nuclear strikes are deployed within days, coordinated by AI-enabled command-and-control systems. Advanced biological agents are released concurrently. While nuclear detonations devastate cities, the overwhelming majority of fatalities result from the biological agents, which spread uncontrollably, overwhelming global health systems and preventing coordinated response.
2041–2045:
<Global infrastructure and governance collapse. Supply chains vanish, governments disintegrate, and societal and ecological breakdown accelerates mortality. Roughly ninety percent of humanity perishes. Isolated populations in Africa, South America, and Southeast Asia survive, shielded by geographic remoteness and limited strategic value. AI and unmanned systems, though initially decisive in military escalation, ultimately contribute to uncontrolled conflict and the rapid collapse of civilization.
I wouldn't expect America to collapse but apparently very few saw the USSR collapsing when it did so who knows. Things move fast in the modern world.