/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

gen ZIGGA , gottem

Also, it has reported that the "Gen Z" protest was possibly astroturfed into hell, sheinbaum possibly told of massive bot influence, and it is nothing but a attempt to weaponize the cartel problem agaisnt the government

>>2563818
fake ass protest

I read it's PANista boomers including former right-wing president (and ex-Coca Cola CEO for Latin American operations) Vicente Fox trying to get Gen Z to do a counter-revolution for them. This seems to have recruited a few thousand low-info rubes from Reddit or Discord or wherever they come from, but also the Mexican equivalent of groypers who have latched onto it. Another name is Lilly Téllez, a militant of PAN who asked Marco Rubio and Trump for intervention in Mexico. Overall looks like a pretty sad attempt at exploiting "Gen Z" branded protests in other countries.

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Man, are we really calling every protest a "Gen Z" protest now? Analytically, I don't like term "color revolution" either, it has been too overused, insofar that I think internal contradictions are "primary." Like there were demonstrations that ousted the president of Madagascar, but to understand anything about that, you have to look at what is happening in Madagascar, which is not Mexico. Like what are the national political conflicts there, which factions are involved and how, which political forces benefit and which ones don't, and what are their demands. But calling things "Gen Z" moves it into this vibe-based cultural realm, so critical thought disappears. "This movement represents Gen Z." That's not a verifiable claim. But the rubes can be like "what? Are you an out-of-touch millennial who doesn't 'get' Gen Z?!?!" They've got Gen Z energy!!! Oh my God, please take me out back and shoot me.

I think this also goes for "color revolution" BTW. That has been so overused. It has been overused to the point that every protest everywhere has been called a color revolution at this point. I think you have to analyze things in their own context and be careful not to over-geopoliticize these things. In both cases these terms erase the specific local, political content of demonstrations. It tells you nothing. Also to the extent that the U.S. (and Trump) is involved in this Mexican rodeo – and some of these people are calling on the U.S. to intervene – it's probably a secondary (external) factor, but not the primary one, becuase as a matter of fact there are right-wing chuds in many countries.

>>2563840
>ex-Coca Cola CEO for Latin American operations
Damn, you know that's one evil motherfucker

the MOST colour revolution ever, in other countries it was a little more organic, specifically in Mexico they found botfarms and traditional right wing politicians stir up the protest which didnt even fill the fucking plaza. i hope they get the usual treatment actual leftists get in other country when they protest like this, but they wont and we all know why.

>>2563840
>Man, are we really calling every protest a "Gen Z" protest now?
It's what the protestors and news outlets have been calling these. In my opinion a huge marker for how these protests were astroturfed/coopted for western interests

>I think this also goes for "color revolution" BTW. That has been so overused
People just mean that these protests are in the interest of western powers and/or don't accomplish or have any real concrete revolutionary goals

I wouldn't get so worked up/autistic about terminology tbh, the meaning people associate to the use of these terms is pretty obvious

>All protests are "Gen Z" now
You people are boring.

Fuck One Piece tbqh

I stand by my defense of the protests against the Indonesian government but this shit in Mexico is the most farcical astroturfed shit I've ever seen.

>>2563884
The Indonesian chimpout was just as astroturfed as this, funded by the same groups even

Funded by the CIA’s NGOs. Every Gen Z that attended was 50+. If this wasn’t an attempted color revolution I don’t know what is. Luffy would have beat the shit out of the Coca-Cola guy. A downright shameful showing of the flag.

>>2563883
I’m sorry your life lacks joy.

>>2563881
>Muh terminology
Still seething about being wrong about Nepal huh?

>>2563901
Hey that’s not fair, they were also wrong in Indonesia, Madagascar, and Serbia too!

>>2563840
>Fox
>Sheinbaum
What the fuck are with these names of Mexican presidents?

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>>2563898
It's fucking ugly and not in an aesthetic way, like ONE's art style.

>>2563916
Because Mexico is an immigrant nation? Fox is of german decent (ironically he was Fuchs before) and Sheinbaum is Jewish. Mexico was long a haven for political refugees, including from the spanish civil war.

>>2563919
>Like ONE's artsyle
How dare you anon?! ONE's artstyle is much superior to Onepiece's

>>2563901
>Nepal
Back then I said (paraphrasing) "in the absence of organized revolutionary leadership liberalism will inevitably take command, this does not invalidate the anger or grievances of the masses against the revisionist government and its liberal policies. The turn of the "communists" to neoliberalism and neo-colonialism is what precipitated this in the first place. As such, the correct communist position is not "law and order" but to move to take command of the left wing of the movement and shift it towards organized warfare."

I still stand by this. The inevitable fascist turn of the new government will further intensify the contradictions already reconstituting the Revolutionary Communist Party.

>>2563945
Actually I was trying to imply exactly that.

>>2563928
They are such a small minority of people in Mexico that it reeks of white supremacy.

>>2563955
calm down. the previous president's last name is Lopez Obrador. and everyone with a family history in Mexico is a mutt anyway. everyone hear has indigenous admixture to some degree. which makes our Mexican nazis extra funny and embarrassing

>>2563851
>but they wont and we all know why.
why?

>>2563966
>Lopez Obrador.
descendant of spanish civil war refugees btw

one piece is cancer

>>2563954
I see, sorry for misunderstanding you anon. You have impeccable taste

>>2563950
That's fine but I remember you being quite excited for the maoist parties to take that command, which they of course didn't do at all, they barely made any statement whatsoever. While you don't have to dismiss or invalidate the anger or grievances of the masses it should have been quite easy to see that the whole thing was compromised from the start. Which is the exact reason that no party actually pushed for organized warfare as it was happening because that would have ended extremely bad for them

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>>2563897
You can tell this is an astroturfed campaign because Mexico is a proud DBZ nation.

>>2563992
Shenbaun should call counter protests using z warrior drip.