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Guesswork and futurology, write thoughts for what the state of the world may be or look like in 2050.
I will not start with a kick off. Start guessing what will happen, make a bingo or something.

The only thing I am certain of is that dedollarisation will start taking its toll on the US and therefore its government will act to mantain its dominance. How it will act is a mystery.

I think they will start making cleaning robots like in WALL-E, and luddic reactionary street sweepers and garbage men will protest but they will get shot and I know they will get shot because I am waiting for the day they start protesting against wholesome efficient cleaning robots that I will find their protest and start shooting them

>>2569626
>Guesswork and futurology, write thoughts for what the state of the world may be or look like in 2050.
I think of historical progress as like

>>2569647
I use that video to tell people how a movement should grow
>>2569641
DEFEND CLANKERS KILL HUMANS

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the fourth turning ends in 2028, trump leaves office in 2028, leading to peace. really the boomers die off and there is a major asset transfer of money and real estate, millennials being the main beneficiaries, this will cause millennials to all sell out like boomers did and lead to a return to the political center.
sorry.
it was all for nothing.
gamergate, woke, anti woke, democratic socialism, nationalism, populism, the culture war, it was all a waste of time

nothing ever happens

Global Brazil with never ending regaton. Islamic regaton mind you. Hell on earth.

china presses the communism button and usa explodes

>>2569657
climate cchange says hello

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There will be three main strains of politics:

Ultra luddite who despises tech and AI.
Cyborg worshiper who thinks the AI is god.
normie person who is trying to hold onto their soul while embracing tech.

The vast majority will be the first two, the third one will be rare.

technology will open up new fronts in psychedelic and occult experience. AI oracles, Virtual reality shamans, brain to computer interface drug trips.

Millennials will inherent boomer money and real estate, they will also take over politics for the next 50-70 years are so.

Hollywood will collapse and the studios will be sold off to tech companies and arab oil money

robots of course will replace a shitload of people, or computer interfaces.

>>2569626
>What will the world look like in 2050

>Europe & "western" countries.

I think that Europe will essentially go further down the social-democrat line, whilst maintaining a strategic position. Given the fiasco that has been the recent surge of the far right, most major parties in european countries will keep away from identity politics to focus more on the economy and climate. The result will probably look something like sweden welfare-state capitalism becoming the norm, with perhaps the more "left-wing" countries like Spain or the nordics implementing genuine socialist reforms like nationalization of the banks and worker's representation in firms' decisionnary councils.
Geopolitically, I think that Europe will remain largely pragmatic. If the US declines, then Europe will turn to China. Vice-versa, if China declines, then Europe will pursue its self-interest by rebalancing its favors towards America.
Some countries like Japan and Korea, because of their nature, will essentially be fucked and endure long-term crisis. However, imo if Europe follows its current trends with slight modifications (like tuning down the identity politics), then I wouldn't be surprised if it achieved state-managed social-capitalism.

>MENA

The oil countries slowly decline but keep a good amount of power. The fall isn't dramatic but noticeable, somewhat like Japan post-90s. Some countries manage to diversify and become hubs for "new" capitalists, like the UAE, but most simply decline.
The other non-rich arab countries stay largely in the same position. A lack of strong governance & resilient institutions makes them prone to violence, in particular religious one, and prevents them from having any long-lasting state. Lastly, Israel manages to fully annex Palestine by 2035-2040 but stops there because of its unpopular image and the general exhaustion of supporting a genocidal state. It remains largely wealthy and "western" in its development.

>Russia

This is one of the more interesting questions desu. Even though Russia nominally hasn't managed to clung much to its empire, it's actually managed to convince people otherwise, especially so in countries in which they hold strategic interest. Economically, I hardly see them actually innovating or changing much : it remains largely some form of oligarchic-state capitalism where the power resides in the hands of a few individual who control _everything_. I think that Russia and its allies will essentially entrench themselves, perhaps manage to recoup one or another country in their sphere of influence, but will largely stay a mirage of a great power. It really depends on how well they do in Africa, how stable are the central-asian countries, and how much of Ukraine's resilience is actually due to NATO imports.

>China

Essentially what it is now but better, and stronger. China has a near complete control over their population, making it hardly concievable for them to actually fail at their goals and ambitions. Keeping to their pragmatic georelations, they might ally more with the Western nations (except the U.S.) to recenter power around them. However, if a crisis comes up, they might also very well align more radically with anti-west countries and create a new bipolar world (I find this to be unlikely though given their regionalist stance).
Economically, China largely catches up to the west and even surpasses it. It doesn't focus as much on "social" policies that the west has but becomes more innovating (already the case) across all sectors, more productive etc. They largely become what the US was to the rest of the world economically in the 60s.

>USA

I think that the US will become fractured within itself. The political polarization will create an unreconciliable relation between red and blue states, pushing them to attempt at more autonomy and federalization. For instance, California and Alabama have become so distant from one another that I find it hard to believe that they both wouldn't pursue for more de facto autonomy from one another.
This, in my eyes, will create 2 things. Firstly, the major coastal blue states will essentially become european-like states. For red states however, I think that another division will ensue between the rich and poor ones. States like Florida & Texas will attract a new emerging class of capitalists disaffected from the traditional blue states and will pour investments (and thus require low regulation), but states in the MidWest for instance will largely stay poor and have little substantial progress.
In all cases, except if some cesaric figure manages to revitalize America whilst staying true to its institution, it's becoming more and more apparent to anyone that America's prestige relies on its economic and militarily might than ideologic purity. This makes it hard to justify complete allegiance to it when new actors (mostly China) are emerging.

>Africa, LatAm, other asian countries

Can't say. Really contingent on how they handle population growth, climate change, and economic models.


Tldr, a most polarized world with more "extremes" ideological model.

Climate change will trigger WW3 and humanity goes extinct.
All future projections are cope, even China with its technological prowess and organization won't overcome the damage that's already baked in from decades of running coal. Even if we went -100% (yes, negative. we recapture 100% of what we used to burn) emissions TODAY, we are still looking at billions of people having to relocate.

That's just not feasible.

The future won't be legible to us in the same way that feudal subjects couldn't imagine the industrial revolution besides pointing at some sort of apocalypse of "dark satanic mills". In a way, it was the end of humanity and the birth of a new species, some kind of "homo economicus" of consumerist neoliberal subjects. Could you explain microplastic pollution to a Victorian child?
>futurology
wot like Jeffrey Epstein's friends at The Edge Foundation? No thanks!

>>2569674
>climate change
< Cleopatra lived closer to the first moon landing than to the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza. This is because the Great Pyramid was built approximately 2,500 years before her time, while Cleopatra lived only about 2,000 years before the moon landing, highlighting the vast age of the pyramids relative to Cleopatra's era.
https://www.livescience.com/was-ancient-egypt-a-desert

2.5 degrees warmer, collapse of industrial society underway, millions of dead

>>2569747
>That's just not feasible.
It is, your imagination is limited by capitalist realism, nothing better than petty nation-states. A Chinese-AES led international community of people could do it.

>>2569743
>>Europe & "western" countries.
just what the fuck are you smoking lmao
europe has been the rabid dog that has no clue how the international economy even operates. europoliticians siezed an outlet for a chinese chip factory in the netherlands thinking they've actually siezed the means to produce chips. they are remilitarizing rapidly and preparing for war with russia. what social-democracy? everyone rightist neolib parties are on the rise, and where they are not, they are still pushing neoliberal policy (pension reforms/rising of retirement age, cuts to social programmes, rapid militarization and policization of the state for the coming war)

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>>2569747
How would it be unfeasible if we went carbon negative? The amount of carbon in the atmosphere would start to decrease and the earth would cool, that makes no sense.

In 2050 there will be a culture war over whether it's better to take a pill that cures sleep so you can work 18 hours a day or get a cybernetic implant that shows advertising in your dreams.

>>2569868
How far away is 4 degrees?

>>2569626
>Speculations for 2050
Endless nuclear wasteland with ecosystems completely collapsed. Warlords thriving in latin america and africa.

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>>2569626
world map in 2050

>>2569828
>europe has been the rabid dog that has no clue how the international economy even operates
oh no no no I thought we went past the "slow gdp = DEATH" meme

>everyone rightist neolib parties are on the rise, and where they are not, they are still pushing neoliberal policy

They're not dumbass. The only parties that are massively on the rise are far-right parties. Neoliberal centrist parties are actually declining because people are tired of them. Even people on the right are starting to focus more on identity politics because they know they don't seem serious economically.

>what social-democracy

The way it usually works is that some left-wing candidate will establish some form of "social" protection or measure, and then the right-wing parties will chip at it for the next 20 years before some other major left-wing reform is passed.


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