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What it says on the tin, this applies to Western Leftism as a whole, but particularly American “socialism” can be written off as basically the militant defense of capitalism and Empire

What do I mean? American Leftism almost entirely centers around resurrecting the 90 year old New Deal. That is literally it. Nothing more radical. Nothing less imperial. Hell, usually not even anything less racist! American leftoids do not care about the history of the New Deal, do not care about the contradictions of the New Deal, do not care about the outcome of the New Deal nor the purpose of the New Deal. Unironically all that matters to them is that for nearly a century they have been taught that socialism is when the government does things therefore FDR was a communist. And that’s a good thing. This is unironically what the majority of American leftists believe. I know why they believe these things, but is it possible to break them out of their worship of the Settler Fuhrer (FDR) and his radical program to save capitalism through Americanization and American totalitarianism?

Social Democracy is not the left anymore. It is just a slightly more centralised brand of neoliberalism. When Social Democrats won their first elections in countries like Germany they were almost instantly cuckolded by the capitalist state institutions i.e the private sector and the influence of the Kaiser so they were forced to abide by the will of the "deepstate" or to be more accurate the capitalist class who demanded German expansionism. Britain, also, was swayed to continue colonial wars post-WWII to protect the rubber trade again because of the will of the private sector. Or how after Thatcherism the British left again was forced to adapt to the same view as the Austrian economists because the global market demanded it and no elected government can truly resist the will of the financial sector without essentially changing the very structure of the state.
For Americans the state institutions are even more hard-coded than the ones in Europe.

Treats

The new deal wont wong in smerica anyways. America is going bankrupt snd wont have factories to lessen ghe blow. Communism is when the government builds factories.

>>2577584
Ultraleft deviation detected. The New Deal lifted millions of Americans out of poverty and allowed for massive development of the productive forces and accumulation of social wealth. It was literally the lower stage of socialism in practice.

You can't have communism when industry has been offshored and people are in poverty, a second New Deal would be historically progressive and necessary to re-establish a socialist society with American characteristics.

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>>2577639
nah, western chauvinist narrative is nonsense, america is a country built on the spoils of slavery and genocide not some strange 'lower stage socialist' country, its a fascist shithole then and now.

>>2577641
I promise you the dude you are responding to is a leftcom memeing on OP

>>2577639
You cant have that and all the red tape that comes with democracy. Im starting to sound like a republican arent i. Tbh republicans will go tankie before democrats at this rate idk.

>>2577646
I guarantee you tankies are sooner to open up Mein Kampf than they are to read Marx

>>2577647
It doesnt matter. Theyll end up with tankie and wonder how they got there lol.

>>2577584
Ask third-worldists

>>2577639
Based post

Because they like it, simple as.

>>2577584
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trick

All of us in modern society are hemmed in by a dense network of rules and regulations. We are at the mercy of large organizations such as corporations, governments, labor unions, universities, churches, and political parties, and consequently we are powerless. As a result of the servitude, the powerlessness, and the other indignities that the System inflicts on us, there is widespread frustration, which leads to an impulse to rebel. And this is where the System plays its neatest trick: Through a brilliant sleight of hand, it turns rebellion to its own advantage.

Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless. They know that they want to rebel, but they don't know what they want to rebel against. Luckily, the System is able to fill their need by providing them with a list of standard and stereotyped grievances in the name of which to rebel: racism, homophobia, women's issues, poverty, sweatshops…the whole laundry-bag of "activist" issues.

Huge numbers of would-be rebels take the bait. In fighting racism, sexism, etc., etc., they are only doing the System's work for it. In spite of this, they imagine that they are rebelling against the System. How is this possible?

First, 50 years ago the System was not yet committed to equality for black people, women and homosexuals, so that action in favor of these causes really was a form of rebellion. Consequently these causes came to be conventionally regarded as rebel causes. They have retained that status today simply as a matter of tradition; that is, because each rebel generation imitates the preceding generations.

Second, there are still significant numbers of people, as I pointed out earlier, who resist the social changes that the System requires, and some of these people even are authority figures such as cops, judges, or politicians. These resisters provide a target for the would-be rebels, someone for them to rebel against. Commentators like Rush Limbaugh help the process by ranting against the activists: Seeing that they have made someone angry fosters the activists' illusion that they are rebelling.

Third, in order to bring themselves into conflict even with that majority of the System's leaders who fully accept the social changes that the System demands, the would-be rebels insist on solutions that go farther than what the System's leaders consider prudent, and they show exaggerated anger over trivial matters. For example, they demand payment of reparations to black people, and they often become enraged at any criticism of a minority group, no matter how cautious and reasonable.

In this way the activists are able to maintain the illusion that they are rebelling against the System. But the illusion is absurd. Agitation against racism, sexism, homophobia and the like no more constitutes rebellion against the System than does agitation against political graft and corruption. Those who work against graft and corruption are not rebelling but acting as the System's enforcers: They are helping to keep the politicians obedient to the rules of the System. Those who work against racism, sexism, and homophobia similarly are acting as the Systems' enforcers: They help the System to suppress the deviant racist, sexist, and homophobic attitudes that cause problems for the System.

But the activists don't act only as the System's enforcers. They also serve as a kind of lightning rod that protects the System by drawing public resentment away from the System and its institutions. For example, there were several reasons why it was to the System's advantage to get women out of the home and into the workplace. Fifty years ago, if the System, as represented by the government or the media, had begun out of the blue a propaganda campaign designed to make it socially acceptable for women to center their lives on careers rather than on the home, the natural human resistance to change would have caused widespread public resentment. What actually happened was that the changes were spearheaded by radical feminists, behind whom the System's institutions trailed at a safe distance. The resentment of the more conservative members of society was directed primarily against the radical feminists rather than against the System and its institutions, because the changes sponsored by the System seemed slow and moderate in comparison with the more radical solutions advocated by feminists, and even these relatively slow changes were seen as having been forced on the System by pressure from the radicals.

problem with parties in the US is they're basically marketing agencies: they create a set of policies by committee you have to generally follow as a politician for them, and they get ads for you. So you get nonsense policies when you try to do anything communist because marketing people sand it down beyond recognition because they think voters won't want it if it isn't sanded down.

>>2577587
Olaf Palme was the last good socdem

>>2577639
American industry must remain offshored or American militant imperialism will become an even greater existential threat

>>2577641
Im not reading this shit

the Swedish socdems did much worse than sterilizing cripples. for one thing they turned a blind eye to freikorps (Munchska kåren), they forbade sending aid to Spanish Republicans, they armed Finnish Whites during the Finnish revolution

>>2577823
I think the problem is more that the uniparty pretty much controls the entire election process from top to bottom, up to and including who gets on the ballot and how they're counted.

>>2579366
Join school boards and shit 🙄

Because things like class struggle and class consciousness are merely asserted as hegemonic ideals despite lacking a material basis born from actual struggle within the labor movement, in no small part because American corporations both de-industrialized and are on a footing of total warfare at the mere hint of union drives.


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