/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

more communist squids

>>2583799
Why would I be afraid to admit this? Total nationalism death and this includes your anti-imperialist noble natives fighting against settler colonialism.

>>2583799
NATIONS WILL BE SMASHED BOARD BY BOARD, WINDOW BY WINDOW, PILLAR BY PILLAR, UNTIL IT ALL COMES CRASHING DOWN AND CRUSHES THE BOURGEOISIE WITH IT!

>>2583799
Always wondered how MLs can believe in Democratic Centralism but then have different national parties around the world making separate decisions and ending up with contradictory policies. Does the word CENTRALISM have meaning or not?

>>2583910
true,the EU is a more capable entity at making sure everyone follow the (admittedly terrible) plan of dick sucking america and enforcing the free market than the URSS was at their goals

>>2583910
And how will we decide who calls the shots?

>>2583915
We will have tiny capitalist nations who are anti-imperialist fighting with nuclear weapons who is the most anti-imperialister so they can call the shots.

>>2583862
>Settler colonialism
Just build skyscrapers and everyone with geographic based holy land spooks can live on their magical land together.
>>2583915
Give workers a vote, then count votes. Have them elect local leaders. Those local leaders get together to deal with local issues and chose a representatives go to larger worker councils. This keeps going until you end up with a World Supreme Soviet that makes world policy.

>one world goverment
<921 results for the word "global" in the recently released Jeffrey Epstein email database
oh waow haha………..
>the same for any belief in 'sovereignty'
incessant Trot/antifa seething:
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Iran! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Iraq! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Ukraine! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Libya! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Syria! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
<"We need to SMASH THE STALINIST AUTHORITARIAN STATE in Venezuela! True Marxism is free markets for individual consumers to do free association"
if only someone had warned us that these "committed anti-fascist" DSA social fascists like Graham Platner have dedicated their entire lives to being proud foot soldiers of Zionist finance imperialism enslaving humanity. Nobody could have known!
>nations are fake
"Israel exists. Whether it has the 'right to exist' is irrelevant" - Francesca Albanese
>culture evolves
Notice the lack of active voice, and lack of class consciousness about who is affecting our material conditions and to what ends. The human species is being domesticated by the bourgeois class under their Alan Greenspan low interest rates consensus. The rational, marketplace navigating domesticated animal was given the name "homo economicus" to replace homo sapiens:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus
(the word neoliberal doesn't appear a single time in this wikipedia article, like a domesticated pet fish in an aquarium who doesn't know the word water lol)

>>2583927
the only mention of the working class in this radlib thread is some infantile shit about "counting votes". The American Century of Humiliation continuing unabated ✅

>>2583947
>the only mention of the working class in this radlib thread is some infantile shit about "counting votes".
Supreme Soviet in the USSR held votes. Where do you think the "Democratic" in Democratic Centralism comes from?

>>2583915
the communist party with the most power should call the shots, so the soviet union then and now china

>but that's colonialism!!!11!!

shut up bitch, stop talking

Comecon sucked ass sadly

>>2583862
Ngl, based

>>2583799
>if you are a communist you believe in a one world government
usa gov is one world government, new world order refers to US hegemon post ww2, american pedo elite are responsible for all the wars in the world

>>2583799
>if you are truly a communist you believe in one world goverment
these do not follow. I dont have a problem personally with a united world government concept, as long as its socialist, but its a distinct issue

>nations are fake
social constructions arent "fake"

>next step of evolution is consolidation of all goverments and peoples
according to who?

>same for any belief in 'sovereignty'.
any society that claim to be democratic will need to be sovereign

I do like octopuses

>>2584858
why

>>2583799
Welcome to the board Hillary. Yes you might be right on the long run, just as Paris subsumed the old kingdoms and cultures and made everyone speak French, with much gnashing of teeth. Not sure what that will look like in the modern era. McDonalds supremacy with Chinese characteristics.

Truke, socialism and anarchism converge at the same logical conclusion of communism.

>>2583799
>if you are truly a communist you believe in one world goverment and have no shame in saying so, nations are fake, race is fake, culture evolves and the next step of evolution is consolidation of all goverments and peoples.
How is this controversial?

>>2585241
In the digital grass touching parts of the internet, it isn't. On twitter it probably is idk I deleted my twitter.

>>2583910
>Always wondered how MLs can believe in Democratic Centralism but then have different national parties around the world making separate decisions and ending up with contradictory policies. Does the word CENTRALISM have meaning or not?
>How do basic large scale organisations work? Why didn't stalin just decide what every single communist did in their local union meeting, personally?

The decisions made by the comintern were binding to all it's members. You simply do not actually know history.

The political trade-off of unity in action through common decisions vs guarding against trying to generalized tactics that only work in specific contexts is as old as time and will never end. Additionally, a lot of contradictory decisions are arrived at because of forms of national chauvinism or opportunism, whether conscious or unconscious. Every communist in power, no matter how disciplined, feels the weight of the survival of their own socialist experiment on their shoulder, and no amount of abstract long term 6d chess "it would be beneficial for the revolution" actual arguments can convince a whole communist country to throw themselves onto the sword. People are not drones, which is why you cannot just send endless armies into their death as if you are playing age of empires in real life either, soldiers won't willingly go on suicide missions as a rule. Thats why generals keep the people actually dying in the dark about the grand strategic tradeoffs, and always have a plausible explanation for why their sacrificed pawns were not intended to die, to tell the widows.

The soviets, even the most hardline ones, did foreign policy that first and foremost protected the soviet union as a state. The chinese likewise will not sacrifice themselves in a ball of fire for world revolution. It is therefore actually more important not to advocate for absurdist ultra-centralism like you do, which in history has just led to all the parties operating in capitalist countries to be forced to tow the foreign policy line of the established communist nations, even if those actions turned out to be extremely detrimental to local organizing success and the global communist movement.

>>2585264
>inb4 retards who in comparison make Stalin look like an anarchist go "There is only one communism"
Then why didn't this one true way to do communism work everywhere?
>Well you see, local conditions eh
Then there is the gap between what you say and what you, deep inside, know to be true, and why you must realize to let go of the dogmatism that has yielded no results in almost a century in most of the west, and half a century or more in the non alligned world.

>>2585076
it's capitalist globalism, I want communist globalism

>>2585264
>You simply do not actually know history.
Whew, glad to know the Sino Soviet split never existed. It was all fever dream, the USSR is still going strong and communist movement will sweep away the dying capitalist powers any day now.
>The political trade-off of unity in action through common decisions vs guarding against trying to generalized tactics that only work in specific contexts is as old as time
Yes and sooner or later there needs to be a world body that make decision for the world policy.
>will never end.
Of course it will end eventually. And when that happens there will be one communist global order to organize it.
>It is therefore actually more important not to advocate for absurdist ultra-centralism like you do
Just because it's difficult to coordinate several nations and subordinate them to a larger body, does not mean it is no longer a goal.

Also all the nations you speak of were forced together in the first place so I don't see why their current identity suddenly becomes sacred only now. China and the Han Chinese only became as large as it is by conquering thousands of smaller people over many thousands of years. We only refer to them as single people now because they forced many separate peoples to have their identities merged. This is literally how all current nations and ethnicities formed in the first place. Why are communist demanding this process arbitrarily stop now?

based

>>2583799
This is Infantile Liberal Idealist Postmodern Foucauldian Anarchist Hippie Commune nonsense, 😂🤣🤢🤮! After either the Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism (which completely destroys the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allows for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR) or the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism (which will have a Social Democratic Imperial Core where UBI allows for Income to be divorced from employment after the 4th Industrial Revolution automates most of the workforce combined with the Hyper-Rationalization of the Superstructure through the legalization of all Victimless Crimes like Abortion, Birth Control, Pornography, Sex Work/Prostitution, LGBTQIA+, Drug use, Gun ownership, etc. and a Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy that accepts Multipolarity, unites with a Maoist Periphery/Semi-Periphery, where Maoist PPWs swept away all Bourgeois Comprador and Imperialist governments after the 4th Industrial Revolution Automated Global Supply Chains and Reshored them back to the Imperial Core and the Green Energy Revolution shut down all Oil/Gas production worldwide, thus collapsing the economies of all Sweatshop countries and Petrostates, to create a Global USSR) creates a Global USSR, where every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ), including New Afrika, Aztlan (in a Hispano-American SFSR that includes all the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad, Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa), Kurdistan, Circassia, Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Arabistan (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa), Balochistan, East Turkestan/Uyghuristan, Tibet, Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh, Manipur, West Papua, Aboriginal Australia, Hawaii, and many others as shown in the Map of all the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR I posted, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2587693
you need to get a girlfriend

>>2585296
>Whew, glad to know the Sino Soviet split never existed. It was all fever dream, the USSR is still going strong and communist movement will sweep away the dying capitalist powers any day now.
*punches wall*

>>2587708
What does my personal life have to do with my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis at >>2587693 , 🤔?

>>2587709
Bordiga was a Fat Fascist clown that simped for ᴉuᴉlossnW and Hitler, so it is fair to say that he was much worse then Trotsky, who though he always had Menshevik Revisionist tendencies, at least did a very good job running the Red Army and helped the Bolsheviks win the Russian Civil War, before he went schizo and turned on Stalin, while Bordiga accomplished nothing but sitting in his armchair eating spaghetti, 😂🤣🤢🤮!

>>2583799
retarded. internationalism is based in national cooperation. read stalin and lui shaoqi

>>2583799
I also forgot to mention that only Liberal Idealist Postmodern Foucauldian Hippie Commune Anarchists reject the existence of Nations and Races, as Stalin defined the Nation as “a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture” in Marxism and the National Question https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and the existence of Genetic Clines of various Heritable Physical Characteristics (ie. Nasal Index, Cephalic Index, Skin Color, Eye Color, Hair Color, etc.) combined with Autosomal DNA PCR clusters associated with various geographic populations is the Biological concept of Race, which I controversially do not believe is “Racist” in and of itself, as their is nothing wrong with scientific studies on the beautiful Phenotypic variation inside the Human species that is shown on this interesting website http://humanphenotypes.net/ , and it is frankly ridiculous to claim that a German, a Yoruba, and a Chinese person look the same, as anyone who is not blind can easily differentiate between them, Forensic Anthropologists can tell whether an individual is of West Eurasian/“Caucasoid’, East Eurasian/“Mongoloid”, Sub-Saharan African/“Negroid’, or Southern Eurasian/Australo-Melenesian/“Australoid” Racial ancestry based on differences in their Skull Structure/Cranial Measurements, and Population Geneticists can tell your ancestry through your Autosomal DNA PCR clusters and Y-DNA Haplogroups, and Physical Anthropologists in the USSR published Racial Typologies and recognized Race as a Biological reality, as the Biological concept of Race only becomes “Racist” if you do what the Nazis and Southern Crackers did, and use these Biological categories as an excuse to oppress/exterminate populations based on the Pseudo-Scientific Eugenicist idea that Race is linked with “Intelligence”, and that certain Races are “Superior” or “Inferior” in some schizo hierarchy, as any Marxist knows that the concept of “Intelligence” is based on whatever is or is not valued in a specific Mode of Production, and that what people call “Intelligence” has been scientifically proven to be overwhelmingly the result of Environmental/Socioeconomic factors over Genetics, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🧬!

Since we are on the topic of Population Genetics, I have posted 4 In-depth Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with various Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions (ie. Germanic, Slavic, Italic/Romance, Celtic, Baltic, Graeco-Albanian/Balkanic, Armenian, Iranian, Indo-Aryan, etc.) across various Indo-European and Non-Indo-European speaking populations in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, Siberia, South Africa, and the Americas, in comparison to various Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions, along with a Chart of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Makeup of each of the Indo-European and Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions shown in the first 4 Charts, based on the proportion of Indo-European Steppe and Non-Steppe Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components, with all of these charts coming from the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, ✊😜🧬!

As a bonus, this handy list I created shows each of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components in the Charts I posted paired with their dominant Racial phenotype, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🧬!

Proto-Slavic=East Europid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/EastEuropid.html
Proto-Baltic=East Europid
Proto-Germanic=Teuto Nordid https://humanphenotypes.net/Hallstatt.html and Dalo Nordid https://humanphenotypes.net/Dalofaelid.html
Proto-Celtic=Alpinid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Alpinid.html
Proto-Italic=Gracile Mediterranid https://humanphenotypes.net/GracileMediterranid.html
Early Graeco-Albanian=Dinarid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Dinarid.html
Proto-Armenian=Armenid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Armenoid.html
Proto-Iranian=Iranid https://humanphenotypes.net/Iranid.html
Proto-Indo-Aryan=North Indid https://humanphenotypes.net/NorthIndid.html
Tocharian=Turanid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Turanid.html
Pre-Greek Anatolian=Armenid
Andronovo=East Nordid https://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html
Pre-Iranian Southern Central Asia=Iranid
Baltic Bronze Age=East Europid
Pomeranian=Alpinid
Ireland and Brittany Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid https://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html and https://humanphenotypes.net/NorthAtlantid.html and Unreduced Cromagnid https://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoAtlantid.html
Britain South Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid
France North Bronze Age=Alpinid
France South Bronze Age=Alpinid
Pyrenees Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid
Iberia Bronze Age=Gracile Mediterranid
Paleo-Sardinian=Gracile Mediterranid and Unreduced Cromagnid https://humanphenotypes.net/PaleoSardinian.html
Pre-Graeco-Albanian Greece=Gracile Mediterranid
Proto-Kamas-Selkup=Sibirid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Sibirid.html
Proto-Ugric=Sibirid
Paleo-Laplandic=Lappid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Lappid.html
Pre-Baltic Finnic Archangelsk=Lappid
Proto-Permic=East Europid
Proto-Volga Finnic=Lappid
Proto-Finno-Saamic=Lappid
Baikal Bronze Age=Sibirid
Proto-Mongolic=Tungid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Tungid.html
Proto-Turkic=Tungid
Tibetan=South Mongolid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/SouthMongolid.html
BMAC=Iranid
Pre-Iranian Zagros=Iranid
Pre-Indo-Iranian Hindu Kush=Indomelenid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/IndoMelanid.html and Gracile Indid https://humanphenotypes.net/GracileIndid.html
Dravidian=Indomelenid and Gracile Indid
Pre-Indo-Aryan Himalayas=Veddid https://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Veddid.html and South Mongolid
Austroasiatic Bengal=Indomelenid and Veddid
Pre-Sarmatian Circassian=Armenid
Pre-Sarmatian Nakh=Armenid
Dagestanian=Armenid
Urartian=Armenid
Pre-Iranian Azerbaijan=Armenid
Roman Middle Eastern=Arabid https://humanphenotypes.net/Arabid.html and Armenid
Roman Middle Eastern and North African=Arabid and Berberid https://humanphenotypes.net/Berberid.html
Sub-Saharan African=Negrid
Native American=Indianid (various Mongolid Subraces of the Americas)
Guanche=Berberid

>>2587938
maybe there are some "real" nations, russia and china feel real, but most of the world nations are fake as fuck and a mistake, france and germany aren't real

>>2587975
Russia isn't real, it's a NATO psyop that destroyed the USSR

>>2587938
>race science but acceptable
inb4
>they're not race they're ethnicities !!!!!

>>2583947
>No not muhhh nationnnnnn
Lmao with the rate MLoids are going at next they’ll be fully stumping for religion too, as a fight against le degenerate western secularism lmao
Bunch of fags in a clown costume

>>2587975
>maybe there are some "real" nations, russia and china feel real
Damn what a coincidence!

>>2587938
Very interesting, I also think that the rejection of existence of races is too much.

>>2588088
>>2588093
we need to be more like saudi arabia

>>2588093
holy shit some people really love to completely invent a position nobody expressed to attack it.
they're called dishonest retards