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It's easy to hate the rich, it takes courage to hate poor people. Why do leftists hate men who rise from poverty to the top more than those who are born rich?

the individual social mobility of a few proletarians becoming rich does not change the fundamental exploitative nature of capitalism or the systemic condition of the working class as a whole

it's easier to understand the arbitrary line between poverty and wealth when you're born into wealth. indeed, that modesty helps to offset how uncool it is for you to be rich. you get to esteem yourself for not letting wealth change you (as though there was anything to change), you can recognize the structural forces at play without hurting your self image. (after all, you didn't choose to become an exploiter…)
if, on the other hand, you were born poor and became wealthy then devaluing the importance of your individual effort and emphasizing how lucky you got is psychologically difficult. you wind up emphasizing hard work and your personal merit, which is deeply uncool. moreover, recognizing the structural forces at play would make you look bad. (you chose to become an exploiter rather than stay poor)

everything humans do is a social game.

Every rich SoB has a fake “up from poverty” story, but when you poke at it you realize their idea of “poverty” is not being filthy rich and almost all of them had a good start in life.

But we do hate the poor tho (lumpen and first world proles)

there are no people who rise from poverty to be rich, bourgies think that being upper middle class with multiple layers of social safety nets and multiple opportunities to start and fail and try again at business without becoming homeless and dying is "poor"

Literally nobody rises from poverty or even moderate income to "the top". You're not at the top unless you're one of the elite families. Herman Cain with a few million dollars of assets is not anywhere near "the top". He was just a moderately wealthy guy by middle class standards and acted accordingly.

That said even if this post is stupid bait there's something to be said about the left's habit of devouring anyone who makes the smallest iota of success in anything. This isn't just about individual achievement. There's a disgust towards any improvement of a group of people even when that improvement brought no great harm to others. They're more invested in this Darwinian struggle for existence and grand narratives than things that could improve the lives of people who are struggling. There's not a serious concept that you can build anything at all from miserable beginnings, but there is an endless cavalcade of humiliating human interest stories about the wretchedness of the poor and how hopeless they are without leftist leadership. The left goes far out of its way to diminish even the small things groups of people do out of fear and dire necessity, like disabled people railing against their condition and not liking the institutions that lord over them. There isn't a language in the present left that allows this people to be anything, because in their ideas these people are already dead and "should be dead", despite protestations that they don't mean that. The left openly abandoned anything that didn't suit this avarice of the influencers and peddlers, because that wasn't interesting to them. It got so bad that the left has to be told when it's acceptable to think about poverty and what they're allowed to say about it. What sort of opposition is that? It was a left built to fail spectacularly and herd its base to endless defeat.

Most of all, the leftists respond to every bait that induces them to attack some other group that disagrees with their highly particular clique, and they hate any notion that there are communities of people outside of the "global community" that none of us will ever be allowed to join. It would be nice if there were a global society that included us, but that isn't happening, even though there's no good reason I couldn't talk to someone from China or Norway and set up some friendship based on mutual interest. It's not so much about "nationalism" but this conceit that they're going to control what groups you get to be part of and who you're allowed to be friends with, what you're allowed to be, and so on. It gets exhausting, and every faction of the left does this and doubles down on it even when a few of them have the temerity to question if this is working, or why they need to uphold these strange narratives that no one asked for and no one really likes. It got to a point where the left folded and acted like it was bizarre to believe white and black Americans could get along, even though if you ask around racism is not the force it was in the past and the racists who brag about this are conspicuous and very easy to dislike. We're supposed to believe that Nick Fuentes has this outsized power and we have to regard him as relevant rather than regard him as an exaggerated faggot, but whenever someone speaks of their real grievances, that has to be replaced with a narrative that all blacks must be poor and ghetto unless they received the mark of approval (by institutions dominated by whites) to be accepted. It's a think black Americans talk about all of the time from every social strata (with some of them participating in the grift but a lot seeing how bad the situation gets because a few people insist we "have" to do this). A lot of white people really have no interest in racism or a sense that other white people are looking out for them in any way, because the people who advance that ideology are all obvious Nazis, and it's a very peculiar form of racism that is advanced rather than the racism of poor whites where it exists, or the racism of the elite which is still the dominant idea. The elite institutions never stopped being racist for a moment and they are far more avowedly racist than anyone, but no one dares speak of that or suggest they could be anything but paragons of liberal democratic virtue. Then you go to black Americans who will tell you the sources of their problem and name specific white people who really are the obviously guilty parties, and somehow this is transmuted into a generalized, vague statement about "whiteness" being an existential evil, all of which exonerates the obviously guilty. The left keeps encouraging that narrative and when you look at the groups promoting it on the left, they say in private to their friends that it's all humorous and that they look down on anyone who doesn't share their cultural values. It's insane. Meanwhile, a great many people in this country of all races are asking why this strange narrative goes on at all. By now the way this game was set up and practiced during the 1990s has ceased working. No one is convinced we have to "respect" any of it, but the game continues on repeat because that's what the narrative is. It's the same with every other issue, where the talking points are reheated slop from the 1990s.

>>2589588
what

>>2589395
Because if racism is a state power then they can't vote for the Democrats anymore.

>>2589313

Part of the explanation is nouveau riche ideology & lifestyle: It tends to have thoroughly petit-bourgeois individualist outlook, ie. Not recognizing or acknowledging the social and material conditions & forces enabling such rare rapid individual wealth accumulation.

The more "old money upper class" also finds the excessive public displays of opulence to be in very poor taste; Like quasi-prostitutional and very obvious a cue that the person has fallen for window dressing marketing that any truly upper class person is educated to recognize and avoid.

t. Member of the Bourgeoisie.

>>2590093

Addendum: This >>2589316 is some good insight.

>>2589313
People don't care if the boot on their neck has a different foot in it.

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because theyre actual, unironic, satanic fucks? im not even talking politics here, the bourgeoisie are plain creepy

>>2589313
leftists is an immaterial term, they perhaps might be some sort of petty bourgoise socialists.
leftism like liberalism are moral systems they "hate the rich"
true socialists see the patterns of exploitation on a larger scale. that exploitation leads to contradictions, the true socialists job is settle to resolve these contradictions not for a moral reason but simply because capitalism is failing


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