What even is the point of this shit anymore? The great turdworld cope that China, Russia, India and maybe Turkey and Brazil is gonna team up into an anti imperialist avenger and destroy the Epsteinian McWorld AmeriKKKa imposed upon us has been shattered to pieces, none of these guys do anything to defend Iran when the Iranians were bombed by the "Israelis", Russia is playing footsy with the US and India and China are more focused with exploiting their neighbours than confronting blatant American overreach under Trump. Any response that does exist is mostly scattered and reactive (i.e buying gold to protect from Fed interest rates) rather than proactive (i.e doing currency swaps and bond liquidation to harm the greenback).
In absence of any hope in changing the global world order i have seen third worldists now retreating and openly defending national bourgeoisie in the name of anti imperialism (such as Korotaev defending Ukrainian oligarchs as barrier against US investments, etc) and it's like …. We are against imperialism not just because we hate the US. We are against the US because American imperialism encouraged corruption and extractivism in the Third World, while American backed Bourgeois organizations crack down on labour rights world wide. Playing defense for corrupt and extractivist oligarchs in the third world in the name of building productive forces, that just undercut the reason why so many people became anti imperialist in the first place.
And as global crises started to ramp up, with metabolic drift and climate change ruining shit, the old rhetorics of building productive capability and bourgeois nationalism is just not gonna be relevant for long. This whole thing is a dead end politically.
>>2590531>mposed upon us has been shattered to pieces, none of these guys do anything to defend Iran when the Iranians were bombed by the "Israelis", Iran was literally bombed by America this year. What was the point of the """"Israelis?""""
What is even the point of keeping complaining about it? Who cares if people "support" China or Russia or Burkina Faso? First it was campist, now you people can't fucking shut up about third worldism. Just stop with this shit man. Focus on your own bourgeoisie
>>2590531>China, Russia, India and maybe Turkey and Brazil is gonna team up into an anti imperialist avenger and destroy the Epsteinian McWorld AmeriKKKamultipolaroids dont think this so you are fighting a strawman you made up in your mind
>>2590563"third worldist" is the new "tankie"
>>2590531It is a dead end, but it also doesn't matter. Defending your national bourgeoisie on Twitter is not a political act. The state and the capitalist class do not need you as an individual to enable them.
>>2590531>none of these guys do anything to defend Iran when the Iranians were bombed by the "Israelis",Couldnt care less.
>>2590531>Playing defense for corrupt and extractivist oligarchs in the third world in the name of building productive forcesIf youre referring to China im pretty sure people are only defending CPC and its policies to turn China into a superpower.
>>2590645Someone post that Latuff cartoon of the Brazil, Russia, India, and China girls uniting to launch a big punch at uncle sam
>>2590531>extractivism>extractivistYou are a liberal. Go back to brunch.
The point is for western leftists to cheer on mass death and exploitation of brown workers in the name of lesser evilism
>>2590563Autismo larpuighurs will do absolutely anything to frame reading and posting as revolutionary acts. That is all that any of this "support" or "opposition" is. At most you send a delegation and they do what? Have a photo op with the Houthis? Wow, really changing the world. Until Communists have state power it's retarded to talk about supporting or opposing anything on the other side of the planet.
>>2590649Third worldist!!
Campist!!
Tankie!!
Authoritarian!!
Stalinist!!
Commie!! >>2591705Your "I'm above it all, don't have opinions on anything" stance is the most retarded of all"
When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninism, something to keep in mind
Americans truly think of politics as sports
>>2592128>When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninismno they're complaining about posts of the form:
<stfu you cracker animal american beast, you are genetically reactionary and cannot be a communistor
<i don't care what kind of job you work, or what your background is, or what you've been through, you are a labor aristocrat treatlerite and you are no different than a cop or troopor
<if you push back on any of the crazy shit I say, I can only assume you see yourself as a bigger victim and feel the need to make everything about youor
<everyone in the fascist imperial core is equally guilty, even those targeted by the state (picrel is example)etc.
If you deny these types of post exist I can only assume you are playing dumb. w
>>2613701The guy you clipped is 100% correct and so is every statement you orangetexted.
*ALL* First Worlders age 16 and up are guilty of imperialism, fascism and racism.
>>2613712>>2613705Uh huh.
>>2613712>The guy you clipped is 100% correct and so is every statement you orangetexted.So, just to clarify, you 100% agree with the anon in my screenshot that Communists sent to concentration camps by the 3rd reich are equally guilty as the nazis because they were born in an imperialist country? I just want to make sure you really agree with that statement. Please confirm for the audience.
>>2590531>What even is the point of Third Worldism anymoreIts just nationalism and useful bleeding heart liberals supporting them.
real chads are Dengist-Second-Worldist
>>2613701Your incessant outrage, moral indignation and pearl clutching is worse than any trolling provided in your examples. God I already know we're going to have to see this bait ass troll compilation a thousand times from now on, as if anyone should give a fuck that you're so easily baited
>>2613732>Your incessant outrage, moral indignation and pearl clutchingNTA you're doing the same thing, but you're even worse. at least he's doing it about actual assholes who shit up the board
>>2613732>God I already know we're going to have to see this bait ass troll compilation a thousand times from now on, as if anyone should give a fuck that you're so easily baitedtry being less emotional and sounding less baited
>>2613734I am more annoyed at him than he is at those trolls so checkmate
>>2613739Fair enough
>>2613732>>2613741The TWister game is now
<say insane shit like "german communists in the concentration camps were imperialist treatlers"<get called out on it<deny they ever said it<demand evidence<get provided evidence in screenshot<complain that the screenshot even exists <"god how many more times do I have to see evidence of my trolling that I demanded?"<pretend to be someone else<"actually by providing the evidence they asked for, you're literally triggered and worse than they are!" >>2613742Meds, I just woke up and these are my first posts of the day
Also nobody was asking for evidence lol, you posted your compilation unprompted. Because now it's apparently indicative of "TWism" lol
>>2613745you're sure invested in this conversation for someone who just showed up
>>2613748>Also nobody was asking for evidencenot this time. but if they didn't provide the screenshot that would have been the next cope (it always is). people have been observing these COINTELPRO derail methods for months now. you can play dumb all you want. the mods also notice it and clean it up regularly which is why it's so hard to get evidence sometimes.
>>2613749What conversation? I just responded to your necropost
>>2613752played dumb again award
>>2613751>Not this time So your little story about people asking for evidence is once again something that happened in another thread huh
>which is why it's so hard to get evidence sometimes.I swear 80% of the conversation around this topic is just you bringing it up unprompted lol.
>>2613756>once again somethingah so you do remember, thanks for confirming you were playing dumb. it was so fucking obvious you were the same anon breathlessly defending the people who have been shitting up every thread with COINTELPRO slop for months.
>>2613746Fair enough!! I'll try to stop complaining about the complainers. It is a bit hypocritical after all. I just hate meta whining so much man
>>2613759I wasn't playing dumb smart guy, I thought you meant conversation as in an actual convo, not a greater metaphorical multi thread "conversation"
>Cointelpro Lmao
>>2613762I can't… I probably won't. But I'll try to try
>>2590531its called global-southism now.
>>2613701Did you, at least, get a shitpost thrown at you for you to act like a victim?
Or do you go to bat for the least class conscious and most reactionary groups of proletariat for free?
>>2614512>Or do you go to bat for the least class conscious and most reactionary groups of proletariat for free?it's always an accusation with no evidence. and then if you deny the evidence, it's proof of guilt.
My posts on here used to be talking shit nonstop about the american government, it's history, everything it does, the reactionary superstructure of the US, US imperialism, slavery and genocide, but twister trolls would still somehow twist this into support for america because i wouldn't agree with their insane statements like "german communists in concentration camps were objectively nazi collaborators"
and I can litearlly post evidence of them saying things like this and your reaction is that I'm somehow going to bat for the reactionaries?
If you really agree german communists in concentration camps were objectively nazi collaborators then just say so
>>2614512>>2614805(cont.) btw I have always called out ACTUAL first world chauvinists doing ACTUAL first world chauvinism on here. I'm pro-Russia in the ukraine conflict, I'm pro China, I'm resolutely anti-America, the government has to go, anti-Israel, anti-NATO, anti-imperialist on every single issue, I just call out the circular firing squad BULLSHIT that the twister trolls deploy to derail and its' somehow used as "proof" that I'm a 1st world chauvinists, that I'm somehow the same as the literal 4klanners who come here to spam "zigger". It's fucking nonsense and you know it. the twister trolls are silent when someone comes here and says actual racist imperialist chauvinist shit but they'll find american communists who maybe aren't far along enough yet in their development and harass them relentlessly say insane things like "you are the same as a nazi"
when their critiques are more substantive like americans aren't doing enough to combat their own imperialist government, that's completely rasonable, but I'm providing actual examples of what I'm talking about and you're ignoring it
>tankies/campists/third-worldists are responsible for my imminent selling out!
>>2590531Third Worldism isn't even real lmao its just a meme people made up to make you mad
>>2614820third worldism is real and so is first worldism. but second worldism is the way forward. read the dengism elder scroll to learn more.
>>2614822these are just funny. i don't actually get offended by this type of stuff. I get triggered when I can't even talk about anti-imperialism in USApol anymore without some twister troll coming in and insisting everything I say is a lie and I'm a secret zionist or something. btw I don't think twisters are actuall third worldists. they just twist words while posing as third worldists. that's the difference.
>>2614830wrong. you are not real third worldist. you are zionist labor aristocrat imperialist. every word you utter betrays your non proletarian outlook.
>>2614491Liberalism with global south characteristics.
>>2614838Wrong. they did not kill the fat yankee imperialist bourgeois animal, this is not real JDPON. this video is crypto-zionist. it spreads myth that animal can be reeducated.
>>2614831the aesthetics are trash and the beat is garbage. it does poor service to the message. make it again, but better.
>>2614805>>2614810Nobody cares anon. But seriously, do you have autism or ocd or something?
>>2614936>Nobody cares anonthe people who initiated the conflict certainly do no matter how much they pretend to after doing so
>do you have autism or ocd or something?if I do it is not diagnosed.
"nobody cares" is such an easy cope to deploy in any conversation but it's always evident what you REALLY mean by which "side" you say it to and which you don't.
>>2614937You already know I don't think there is any sides to a conflict you made up in your head. I'm asking if you have autism or ocd because I'm starting to worry about your obsession, it's not normal to keep bringing this up, now you're tying it to the TWist moniker, maybe you need to take a break from this site for your own wellbeing man. It was kind of funny at first, but it's getting concerning
>>2614948>You already know I don't think there is any sides to a conflict you made up in your head. why do you follow me around to multiple threads to tell me I'm a schizo if you think there's no conflict? Why not just ignore me? Just leave me alone and my replies will stop.
Also it's rich to accuse ME of making up stuff "in my head" when a guy ITT is literally saying I went "to bat" for reactionaries (not true) because I gave an example where these trolls told me german communists in concentration camps were the same as nazis. I can collect any number of examples, and the more examples I collect the more "schizo" you will accuse me of being. If I have no examples, I'm a liar, if I have examples, I'm "obsesssed" or "schizo." Any accusation the trolls make is true, no matter how little evidence, any accusation I make, no matter how much evidence I provide is "obsession" and unhealthy even as you follow me from thread to thread to allege the same thing over and over. You can transform any data into any narrative. I just want the disruptive accusations to stop. People looking to fight American chauvinists can go to 4klan or reddit where they actually exist in huge numbers instead of accusing random communists of being such.
>>2614984I don't follow you around lmao, I check different active threads to see if there's anything to talk about, your paranoia is really weird to me, we just talked here and in USApol. That you're out in a bunch of threads complaining about the same thing is not my fault, you're just very easy to recognize because of that. I also don't mind you replying to me, that's not a problem. I'm just baffled by you bro and getting a bit worried
You keep repeating the same points as if any of us should give a fuck about some guy trolling you with his nazi germany bit or whatever. Now adding this whole tirade about how you're called a schizo and shit lol. This is obsessive behavior friend, I'm serious. Just let it go and discuss things normally with people here, why do you need your trolling narrative to be validated by people here at all costs? Don't you want to talk about anything else?
>>2613712Why set an age limit? Fetuses in the core countries of capitalism also benefit from the plunder of the third world.
>>2615002Trvke. In fact, all western sperm and egg cells are treatler imperialists
>>2614987> Just let it go and discuss things normally with people herethat's impossible when trolls twist your words nonstop and make posts like this
>>2613712 >>2615082He is making a joke dumbass, take a deep breath and move on
>>2615083indistinguishable from a genuine statement
>>2615107If you're retarded maybe
>>2590563>Who cares if people "support" China or Russia or Burkina Faso?Maybe people are tired of talkign about woke ᴉuᴉlossnWs
>le ᴉuᴉlossnW
Memebrained idiot
>>2615111I agree with the other anon. It's not obvious that it's a "joke" It's very easy to say edgy and reactionary things and then back off of them as "just jokes." It is a very low and underhanded form of comunication. These subjects we discuss on here ought to be taken seriously.
>ITT: Burgercel clitty leakeage over Third-Worldist trvth Tzvr Bombvs
>>2615002If you look at the complication rates that unborn children and their mothers face in the third world, then unironically yes Lmao
>>2614984nah ur definitely schizo sorry lol youve been at this for months and every time people tell you that isn't third worldism you just do it again
like you have lumped marxism-leninism anti-imperialism and mao-zedong-thought into "third worldism" and none of those tendencies are third worldist they literally mainstream communism. third worldists as they exist are marxist-leninist-maoist and in the phillipines and india they are actually mega based.
"third worldist" westerners on twitter are retards but that isn't even what you are talking about, again, your problem is just with mainstream communism. maybe the real problem is that you also dont understand basic marxism?
>>2592128>When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninism, something to keep in mindTRUKE
>>2615405If you can't tell he's not being very serious you might be retarded as well, or at least some kind of autist
>>2615608> every time people tell you that isn't third worldismi don't think it's third worldism. i've been clear it has nothing to do with actual anti imperialism. TWister is just pseudo-third-worldist trolls literally twisting words on here as ragebait. i thought that was clear.
I'm not OP btw.
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