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<A classified addendum to the Trump administration’s 2025 National Security Strategy outlines a roadmap for the active fragmentation of the European Union, according to sensitive documents obtained by Defense One.

<The "extended version" of the strategy marks a radical departure from postwar foreign policy. It explicitly directs U.S. officials to bypass Brussels and cultivate exclusive relationships with specific nations, with the ultimate objective of detaching them from the bloc.


<The document identifies Austria, Hungary, Italy, and Poland as primary targets for this diplomatic destabilization. The strategy instructs Washington to "engage more deeply" with these capitals to pull them away from the EU. To facilitate this, the White House proposes supporting "parties, movements, and cultural figures" who advocate for sovereignty and "traditional European lifestyles."


<In a significant doctrinal shift, the text formally rejects American hegemony, describing the pursuit of global dominance as a "failure" that was "not achievable." This phrasing, which intelligence analysts note mirrors Kremlin narratives, establishes a strictly transactional worldview: foreign affairs are relevant only if they pose a direct threat to U.S. interests.


<Despite the isolationist rhetoric, the document reveals anxiety about the power vacuum left by American withdrawal. It warns that neither China nor Russia must be allowed to replace U.S. leadership. To bridge this contradiction, the strategy proposes a loose coalition of "regional champions" who share U.S. principles, regardless of their democratic standing.


https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2025/12/make-europe-great-again-and-more-longer-version-national-security-strategy/410038

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When will you admit he was right?

>>2590661
About critically supporting far right nationalist movements to own the libs?

>>2590664
Source???

Good. Let the capitalists eat each other.


Sorry to say it multipolar bros but we gotta side with the EU on this one. Europe today can only form an independent force if they remain united. Otherwise they'll be broken up and absorbed into the US orbit individually. This is essentially what the US did to Yugoslavia.

>>2590841
>absorbed into the US orbit individually.
brother germany has like a thousand american bases in it and half of it's economy is selling weapons to israel, wtf are you talking about
is this bait? because a month ago you were saying something about third world bourgeois governments being the same as imperialist bourgeois governments

>>2590841
europe under the EU is a false unity but otherwise I agree, a continent-wide federalized europe would be a better counterbalance to american interests

It doesn't matter what happens. Something will happen that will collapse the US economy within the next 50 years.

>>2590855
>a continent-wide federation of US vassals would be better to counterbalance american interests
i dont get it

>>2590858
France isn't a U.S vassal silly guy. Friends? Yes. Do the americans have enormous leverage over the French? Yes. But the fact remains that the french have a sovereign nuclear program with their own national interests like we saw with them fucking around with Libya in 2011
>>2590857
sudden economic collapse is a meme

>>2590861
>sudden economic collapse is a meme
It isn't "sudden". Few people who understand the U.S and European economies deny that recession is almost certain given the few flourishing economic cornerstones left (like the AI and microchip market) that are on edge of being toppled by a change in government in Taiwan and the massive growth of debt, the loosening of monopoly over certain minerals and fossil fuel zones and the purchasing power of the US dollar.

>>2590866
America and China have something the rest of the world covets, a functional and fully scaled Tech Sector employing the latest technological developments. Long term these two countries are going to be fine, the real capitalist crises will begin in the large but technologically backward countries like India and perhaps Germany. America will undoubtable suffer but there's really too much going on for it to run out of options for survival

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>>2590841
>Sorry to say it multipolar bros but we gotta side with the EU on this one.
<just siding with an imperialist power to safe guard its imperialism against bigger imperialism
bro

>>2590877
>unipolar hegemon enjoyer

Holy shit bros Hitler was right
Critical Support for Fortress Evropa against Anglo-Zionist imperialism!

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>DUDE A BUNCH OF IMPERIALIST CRACKERS ARE FIGHTING!!!
Don't care
Didn't ask
Plus you're a first worlder
✨OFFICIAL NOT MY PROBLEM UYGHUR AWARD✨

>>2590846
>brother germany has like a thousand american bases in it and half of it's economy is selling weapons to israel
Germany and the EU in general were loyal US vassals under the previous liberal establishment in America, but its been obvious from day 1 that the MAGA dipshits are aiming to dissolve the postwar Western alliance in favour of more naked and unilateral American dominance.
>because a month ago you were saying something about third world bourgeois governments being the same as imperialist bourgeois governments
I've never said that, I said that the national bourgeoisie seek reconciliation with imperialism at any opportunity and are not reliable allies against it.

turn the imperialist war into a proletarian war

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>>2590841
EU doesn't need your support. It is loyal cattle that will come to the slaughter willingly. There have been zero signs of serious resistance so far, the most they've done is give American MIC less money than expected. No diplomatic overtures to China, no economic decoupling from the US, nothing.

>>2590877
I thought you were stalinpilled, he collaborated with w*stern imperialism against the Nazis (and thats a good thing), why shouldnt we do the same against the Burger Reich?

>>2591021 (me)
The only reason US can just say that now is because of what EU itself did by staking everything on regime change in Russia. They left themselves no room for maneuver with Russia or on the energy market in general. But they do have that room with China and they don't use it anyway even when Americans openly say that they will crush their "union" as they see fit. They don't want to support themselves.

europe and the US are just 2 sides of the treatlerite nazoid empire

>>2591021
>There have been zero signs of serious resistance so far
Sure if you don't count them freaking out over the prospect of Russia and the US conducting a separate peace in Ukraine or the EU embarking on a program of independent rearmament. You people seem to think that being a "vassal" is a permanent state of affairs and not a relationship based on shared interests that can be dissolved.

>>2591042
I distinctly don't, it's just that they keep doing everything that is in American interests, like the hilarious Nexperia debacle. Giving even more money to your own MIC instead of the American one is not something that would qualify as a defiant action if you are a serious country, it's just that your expectations of the EU are so low when it comes to independent policy you feel like it's appropriate to bring up.

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>>2591031
Shouldnt turd world national liberals be celebrating USA and EU being against each other? This is the end of american empire. USA is nothing without its network of allies.

>>2591064
>it's just that they keep doing everything that is in American interests
Pushing for continued conflict with Russia while the US aims for detente is a conflict with American interests, at least as they're conceived of by the current administration.

>>2591042
What makes you think the EU wont go back to the US when a democrat gets in power again? Do you think they plan to continue what Blompf started?

>>2591079
US is not monolithic. The group within the US they are aligned with the most still pushes for war. Trump will be out in 3 years, those interest groups will stay.

>>2591078
The US pivoting to the pacific means latam will get fucked by the dying empire.
Stop watching anime.

>>2591078
It's not fighting any more than a rancher slaughtering his cattle. That's the relationship US has with its allies.

America is retreating from Europe and Asia because it knows it cannot win. It is now resorting to extorting its allies economically from overseas, encouraging them to militarise to "do their job for them" like Japan because it still has a large shipbuilding industry and hopes that by treating and bending the knee to Russia and China they will leave their precious monopolies alone.

>>2591087
Its not only EU but drumpf is cucking out to China too on Taiwan issue. Hes angel sent from heaven to turd worldists but I guess I was underestimating how dumb you people are.

>>2591091
China is not a third world country, retard.

>>2591097
Mao literally invented the three worlds theory to justify his hostility towards USSR.

>>2591104
Mao (and Deng) era China is not the same as contemporary China.

Peace candidate btw

>>2591114
Peace candidate who failed to keep the peace in Cambodia. Peace candidate who only stopped supplying to Ukraine when they realised it was not sustainable. Peace candidate who openly desired to annex Greenland. Peace candidate who has openly given up even pretending to fix Somalia. Peace candidate who wants to carpetbomb Venezuela.
Giving the nobel peace prize to a woman who wants her own country to be carpetbombed and mass privatised.

>>2590654
>>2591021
the EU is more durable than the trump presidency. they're never going to burn their alleigance over four years of bullshit. if the fascists try to bolster their failing regime by suspending elections they're going to lose that's when to start cutting the yanks loose.

>>2590866
>>2590873
germany has foundries for microchips, you never heard of them because they don't market them: they already do volumes in automotive and industrial controls.

europe has become the center of the world for open source introducing "digital sovereignty" legislation that will eventually break the back of the US tech empire. they're finally acknowledging that microshits and amerizon cloud are spyware and phasing them out as well.

>>2591086
>>2591081
You guys are right. The liberal establishment in America is still very powerful and is in total alignment with the European ruling class on all substantial issues. I'm just talking about the current administration and its apparent plans to transform their relationship with Europe.

>>2591125
>the EU is more durable than the trump presidency
Lmao
>germany has foundries for microchips
<The European Union’s goal is to raise market share in global semiconductor output to 20% by 2030 — an aim that seems unattainable. The level in 2024 was just 8.1%, and without further investments, it would fall to 5.9% by 2045, according to analysis by German industry lobby group Zvei and consultancy Strategy&.

>This phrasing, which intelligence analysts note mirrors Kremlin narratives, establishes a strictly transactional worldview: foreign affairs are relevant only if they pose a direct threat to U.S. interests.

What kind of retard writes this crap

>>2591176
>liberals realise the world is about commodities and land divisions

>>2590841
spoken like someone who never lived in europe
EU is a neolib tools, and a vassalization to the US tool, and if trump is dumb enough to dismantle it we should celebrate it like all his dumbs decisions that help destroying the empire

>>2591004
>but its been obvious from day 1 that the MAGA dipshits are aiming to dissolve the postwar Western alliance in favour of more naked and unilateral American dominance.
and the euros are still going to take it like the good vassals they are

>>2591139
the EU is more durable than trump. all the countries they want to pull out of the EU won't go:

>austria is completely integrated with the EU economically and can only lose from separatism

>poland and hungary need brussels as a bargaining chip when dealing with the russians, yanks, pissraelis
>italy needs access to tourist dollars to keep their regional economies afloat, and will never accept losing access to european universities

trump looks like they drag him out of a coffin and microwave him back above room temperature every morning. he looks like a zombie, hair falling out and shit. he looks like dracula in daylight. he looks like a shriveled corpse in mortuary makeup. his skin wrinklier than my sack on a winter's day. he movin like bernie. trump sounds more braindead than biden did. trump finna get a rob zombie song about him. he look like a dead dude.

>>2591184
You don't seem to understand how patron client relationships work. The EU was willing to sacrifice short term interests for the sake of long term Western dominance/containment of Russia. There was a clear basis for aligned interests there. Why would they sacrifice their own interests to the US in exchange for nothing?

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Honestly I've accepted it's a wrap for us in Europe lol. It's over. I'm pretty curious about if EU countries will have their generous welfare systems in the future though.

>>2591212
If the EU is going to be responsible for its own defence and protecting its own international (i.e. imperialist) interests then it will likely have to substantially reduce welfare to finance rearmament.

>>2591216
Yeah I was thinking that too. There's extreme youth unemployment in a lot of countries and I wonder if cutting welfare is gonna be a tactic for military recruitment, but maybe that's far fetched.

>>2591220
Service guarantees citizenship!

>>2591220
> if cutting welfare is gonna be a tactic for military recruitment
it already is, you can find military propaganda in elementary schools already, and soldiers get baited with low interest loans

>>2591225
Are you talking about the US?

NATO is more united than ever! They got Finland! Big win!

>>2591254
>join HATO to seek protection from Russia
>4 years later entire alliance dissolves

>>2591254
the sweetener in NATO is access to french, german, and british arms. nobody believes yanks are getting of their arses to fight putin. thoughts and prayers at best, but yankd don't think and the ones that pray probably think the EU is full of gay satanic muslims.

>>2591263
>NATO is access to french, german, and british arms
If those idiots had any sense they would standardize their arms industry for all European NATO members, probably on German patterns.

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>>2591078
I mean, I am. Dunno about the brainlets.

>>2591279
What part of the world do you live in uygha?

>>2591078
The situation is excellent

>>2591078
The crack up of the transatlantic alliance is definitely a good thing for communists. It's like the Sino-Soviet split for porkies.

>>2591078
this is literally what /ukr/ predicted the whole time and we were vindicated

>>2591206
because the ruling elites interest are disconnected from their countries interest
capital control over politics is more naked than it ever was, and capital is barely rooted in its original nation anymore. Our local EU billionaires dont make most of their profit in their country, they dont even make it mostly in europe, so why should they care the proles below them are eating shit, maintaining the global west empire is whats important

>>2591212
There are already only meagre remains left and they are about to get reduced from a rump to a stump very soon in order to teach Putin, Trump & Xi the rules based order.
The EU must disintegrate asap. If national bourgeoisie can't get through on national level with new anti-worker "reforms" or other bullshit it's the job of corrupt EUrocrats to implenent them because EU law is superior to national law and the EU isn't democratic, the so called parliament is a fucking joke.
Also when the EU is no more butthurt belters can make their own ultra-reactionary Rezspolzskzkinkpzdingens Union and rely on Polish gibs. Poland STRONK

The thing that may changed the situation of how americans see NATO, is related about how americans spend on collaborating and helping european imperialist aims without any compensation.
For years, NATO and the euro-american neoliberal collaboration during every democrat government was the cornerstone of imperialist, the euro-american global governance legit superseded any competing institution and country, and steamrolled all international opposition, the neoliberal system directly benefitted the US during obama's and biden's government. But the US now believes that rather than fighting geopolitics like a chess game, they will fight like a monopoly game, they rather than seeing russia as a competitor, they see europe and russia as a liability, the americans want to spend every single penny fighting the threat of "chinese communism" and china represents a real opposition the US ever had agaisnt them (the USSR nobody gives a fuck, after stalin they became a bunch of useless incompetent apparatchniks and the US only used the USSR for comparison and scaremonging after 1980), china represents the threat for the american capitalist way of life, and americans, and the US porkies, as scum they are, will never bow or accept anything below a unfair hegemony where they are the at the top.
ATP, they believe europeans can handle russia, can handle africa, and their priority is now china, which is a enemy that will surpass the US, defeat the US, and the americans grow desesperate to stop it, they will start at syria, pass through iran, move to pakistan and strike china, they will go through philipines, and strike it, they will do anything, but at this point, china reached a stage that definitively can fight and twart american efforts everywhere, this is why they are desesperate. as a brazillian, i am royally fucked also

>>2591311
They care if they can rely on the US to back up their security and economic interests. The basic postwar deal for European powers was that they keep the communists down domestically and fall in line behind the US on foreign policy. This was in exchange for America taking over their national defense and protection of their neo-colonial interests. It worked great for them because it allowed them to build generous welfare states with money that would otherwise have been spent on defence, and have a degree of plausible deniability when it came to the worst excesses of Western imperialist violence. If the US isn't going to reliably do that anymore (e.g. not backing them in a proxy war against Russia) then they have no reason to stay in this alliance.

>>2590654
It's easy to focus on Russia, and I'm sure it's a factor, but the biggest motivation is almost certainly EU regulations. They want to destroy Europe's regulatory power. It's much easier to bully individual countries.
UK was the testing grounds and it's turned into a shithole. They want to do that with Europe.

>>2590841
idk how you could be "multipolar" and support breaking up one of the big poles so it can be cannibalized by the others

>>2590841
I'm usually in favor of sober pragmatism but in this case I think the EU can figure this one out for themselves. Maybe they could use the struggle who knows

>>2591308
god I wish these news are making nafoids rope

>>2591308
NATO was breaking up and US/EU were dissociating before Russia gave it a second wind by attacking Ukraine retard, the ziggers idiots have consistently failed in their predictions

>>2591343
yeah Ukraine and hundreds of billions being sunk into that black hole with nothing to show for it played literally no role in NATO dissociating lmao

>>2591344
>nothing to show for it
Russia is neuteured, they're done for a decade of two before they can rebuild their capabilities, and while they are stuck in Ukraine the EU is rearming, Russian chauvinists like you are completely delusional.

>>2591348
EU thinks otherwise, your fanfiction is irrelevant

>>2591348
>Russia is neuteured
Military grade cope. Your 19 sanctions didn't do a damn thing Lmao

>>2590861
>have a sovereign nuclear program
yes,that's why the current governement was pushing for it to surrender the nooks to become "the european nukes" but then people in germany shat themselves so since they're the ones in charge nothing happened (they would've been under NATO juridiction btw)

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>>2590654
I agree with >>2591125, In 4 years we're probably gonna be right back to where we were in 2020 and we will need to build a better world from there.

>>2591356
France is the future leader of the continent after the Americans take the nukes out of germany

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>>2591357
>In 4 years we're probably gonna be right back
Lets hope youre wrong. We still have to endure three more years of the Trump presidency and things could change irreversibly in that time especially with the Ukraine situation. If nothing else this is a wake up call for Europe that Americans are not their friends.

>>2591536
>If nothing else this is a wake up call for Europe that Americans are not their friends.

>>2591308
Тупая хуесосина, ты думаешь тут у всех память рыбки? Предсказатель ебаный. А еще и в вебархиве треды сохранились. Мразь нагло пиздит и не краснеет.


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