/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2593000
We must destroy the steam machines created by the aristocracy to prevent more power to falling in their hands. You are basically supporting monarchist status quo by defending these machines.

>>2593000
>AI Will Be Used to Build Socialism
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>>2593000
The thing that hallucinates and makes up answers and is manipulated by the bourgeoisie that own it will build socialism?

You'd have a point if the thing you're talking about is actually Artificial Intelligence. Which it is not. It's just a predictive algorithm that just just scrapes data from the internet and spits out what might be an accurate response to whatever prompt it's given. Yeah theoretically it could make economic planning and large scale industrial automation more efficient but the way it's being used by the western tech sector right now that is not going to happen. They're just using it to make porn, fascist propaganda on xitter, and email summaries for office peasants. And that's not even going into the fact that the entire "AI" industry is a massive speculative bubble that may very well be the thing that actually causes the US to collapse.

The idea with AI is to create a super intelligence that can conjure up solutions so smart that no person would have ever thought of them.

Obviously this just means that the bourgeoisie stay in power, the masses remain as slaves, and more profit is found. We'll see what China does with theirs, especially since they have all the rare earth metal refineries to give their AI embodiment with robotics to follow Mao's "On Practice" and actually try things out in the real world instead of just on the computer.

>>2593112
AI is already being rolled out in production and removing needlessly dangerous jobs from the market, so that proletarians can study and find meaningful labour elsewhere.
https://www.sms-group.com/insights/all-insights/real-life-ai-use-cases-in-electric-steelmaking

>>2593089
Are you this much of a monkey? An upgrade to visual processing isn't the same thing as consciousness emerging, you rube.

>>2593146
Nor is it even tangentially related…

>>2593146
It has flow-on effects. Broaden your mind. If there is visual processing that improves, then that means it can be applied to a bunch of jobs and automate things that were once low-paid, dangerous jobs that no one wanted. An example might be a packer in a factory. It's not "sentient" but it would be a robot that can effectively self-manage tasks in a warehouse.

>>2593146
>visual processing isn't the same thing as consciousness emerging
What the fuck are you smoking? Who is claiming that AI is conscious?

>>2593000
>Under a rationally organised, democratically planned socialist economy

Nothing democratically planned will be rational. Speaking of pipe dreams, the old time Marxists used to go on about how communism is all about humans controlling the things made by their own hands, instead of the other way around. At some point people realized that was bullshit and demanded supercomputer AI Gods to do it for us. Enlightenment disproved by its own fruits.

>AI Will Be Used to Build Socialism
Well everything will eventually be used to build socialism as technology is agnostic wrt politics. But AI will first and foremost be used in the cold war, and if socialism doesn't win out, you'd probably want to blame AI. Either way, I think it's going to get way worse before it gets any better.


First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.

Second, AI tech is seen as a proxy for silicon tech as a whole: It will continue to play a humongous role in the cold war, akin to aerospace/nautics in the previous cold war, but through the facade of retarded magic content black boxes, while eating huge subsidies and driving resource wars.

And third, AI tech has wild governance implications: Not just for the panopticon of the surveillance state, which will only continue to expand as it is part of the cold war everything-race.
But the previous consolidation and public-private partnership of silicon tech means corporations getting a greater capture of state mechanisms themselves. The Ukrainian model as depicted, where "Digital transformation" means to let tech corporations(often foreign) run the bureaucracy is also going to keep expanding under the guise of convenience.

The thing that corporations do now where they are never responsible of anything because they can claim a Schrodinger's "automated system" did it? Yeah, that's going straight in.
"Predictive" policing? you got it.
24/7 employee surveillance? damn right.
Corporate run judiciaries? Well not really, they just run every part of the bureaucracy and have capture on every institution! totally legal!

It remains to be seen if abominations like Diella remain a viable cover for liberals after the coming pop of the bubble and all the bad PR though. But hey, if you live in a client state then everything goes so expect the worst from every home to visit you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diella_(AI_system)

But you can bet your ass that media in all it's forms will face a new form of enclosure as AI becomes a part of the tools, necessary to remain competitive.

CyberSyn 2.0 baybay

>>2594926
>First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.
Finally someone who understands how these bubbles work.

>>2593146
Lmao at this.