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>>2592193Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
>>2593388
don't worry, america is losing the specialised industry growth to keep desiring smart people
>>2593390
because america needs rich people to give the country blood transfusions
>>2593393the right is just a clown show of personalities
do any of these people have any real views except trans people scare me and make green line go up?
at least the demoshats are against an invasion of venezeula, they're more about strangling them to death slowly.
>>2593410indians are never beating the allegations
>>2593413
it's always slow on the weekends
OKAY ITS A NEW DAY ON USAPOL
COMMIT SUICIDE BY COP AND ACCOMPLISH NOTHING OF VALUE IF YOU DON’T KILL YOURSELF WHILE I LECTURE PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET YOU ARE IMPERIALIST KKKRACKKKA
EVERYONE WHO THINKS IM AN ASSHOLE IS A TREATLERITE
EXECUTE ALL NORMIES
HAHAHAHA NAMEFAG NAMEFAG NAMEFAG
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT INTERNET CELEBRITY!????????? I LOVE INTERNET CELEBRITY???????? I DON’T READ BY THE WAY
WHAT NEW AND EXCITING THINGS WILL WE DISCUSS TODAY?????
there was no need for you to post that
>>2593426It's a weekday dude
>>2593458
he sounds cool to me
>>2593455oh yeah? Yeah okay lemme just POST INFLUENCER. lemme just SUCK INFLUENCER COCK and blindly repeat INFLUENCER SHIT while I call everyone else a treatlerite for touching grass. That’s why we’re here right, to be the EDGIEST FUCKING BOY ON DA WEB YESSIR
>>2593463
10% of voters think he's serious
>>2593464
The UFOs abducted him
>>2593471
people are dumb in every country get over it
HEY DID YOU HEAR WHAT HOT NEW STREAMER GRUNGUS MCBLURGLE SAID?????? HE DEBATED SPUNGO SMEGMA AND SAID ALL PUERTO RICANS ARE MADE OF CHEESE?????? ALL NORMIES BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE I HATE MY PARENTS
TWITTER SCREENSHOT????????
don't talk shit about grungus mcblurgle you counterfeit revolutionary asset
>>2593483
skibidi toilet ate my ass at the target bathroom and I shot a nut through the wall that killed Nick Fuentes
Death to Amerikkka. I'm going to shoot you.
>>2593491That is a very dank meme comrade
WHO A GRUMPY GUS????? WHO A GOOFY GOOMBA??? AAAAHAHA YOU
>Times New Roman vs. Calibri
This is American "politics" atm.
>>2593495
You are a CPUSA fascist and I am going to shoot you first.
SHITTING ICE CREAM IN A UNICORN’S MOUTH AND THEN THEY SHIT ICE CREAM IN MINE ITS THE CURCKE OF LIIIIIIIIIIIFEEXDDFGHKJJHGGRABB
>>2593452Americans are treatlerites regardless if they think I'm an asshole or not. It's just an economic fact.
Someone post the vid of two americans screaming at each other at the maga rally
>>2593511How was Bolshevism not stifled? Isn't that quote a bit outdated?
>>2593504VIBES AND INTERNET SLANG IS ECONOMICS
IM THE BIGGEST DICK ECONOMIST IN THE WORLD BECAUSE I MAKE VIBES BASED MEME ARGUMENTS FROM THE FUCKING 1970S USING DRILCORE MEMESPEAK
MOMMY I AM THE SMARTEST BOY ON LEFTYPOL DOT ORG. GIVE ME COOKIE MOMMY
>>2593503
If I am not The Real Iron Felix then why am I going to kill your whole fascist family first while I make you watch?
LOOK AT MY EBIN NEW PISTOL. HAVE I MENTIONED I WANT TO MURDER A RANDOM NAMEFAG FOR DISAGREEING WITH ME??????? IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARR LITERALLY STRASSER.
I AM VERY NORMAL AND YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ME
>>2593512lenin is timeless
>>2593393ROB SCHNIDER IS A CHUDLER
EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY’S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I LIFT
>>2593526Where are the Bolsheviks then?
should I FUCK ASS
HELLO LEFTYPOL????? HOW DO I HAVE SEX??????? I DESERBECANAWET
>>2593535Seize the means of reproduction
>>2593531Does the failure of bolshevism discredit Lenin in your eyes?
>>2593513Wealth transfer from the global south to the global north is happening and is empirically proven by many Marxist economists. Your denialism doesn't help promote the "look at us, poor Americans" thing you want to push.
>>2593529I CRUSHED THE ENCHANTED STONE AND SNORTED IT LIKE A FAT RAIL OF COME OFF MY CAT SO I COULD SPAGHETTIFY ROB SCHNIDER INTO MY DICK AND BALLS
>>2593538HELLO YES I AM GOING TO ASSUME WEALTH TRANSFER AUTOMATICALLY REFLECTS INCOME ACROSS CLASSES PURELY OFF VIBES. I AM VERY SMART AND IF I USE PHRASES LIKE “EMPIRICALLY PROVEN” WITH NO SOURCE THAT MEANS I AM CORRECT
I WILL SPEND EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE MAKINGBTHE SAME VIBES ARGUMENT ON LEFTYPOL DOT ORG
FUCK
DID YOU KNOW THE ETERNAL (((TREATLER))) HAS A GHOST PENIS YHSR LINCES IN YOUR CFETAL????
WILL THIS SHITHOLE COUNTRY JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY
>>2593547
It's on the booru now and it looks like they removed the soy one now. He actually posted it a day or two ago replying to me posting his soy one.
>>2593540I think two very good books by Greek Marxist economist Lefteris Tsoulfidis on this topic are
Classical Political Economics and Modern Capitalism (co-authored with with P. Tsaliki, Cham, Switzerland, 2019) and
Modern Classical Economics and Reality. A Spectral Theory of Value and Distribution (co-authored with T. Mariolis, Tokyo, Springer, 2016). You could also read short papers by the brit Marxist Michael Roberts.
But you won't read for shit, of course. Instead you CAPLOCK COMPLAIN about your nation not reading books and then proceed to do exactly that, because reading about value transfer would destroy your idiotic worldview and you can't have that, no sir!
You Americans are a different species. We joke about jungle gang vs gardeners, humans vs orcs in the /ukr/ thread, but the more I interact with Americans the more I see them as some kind of race of narcissistic vampires. You are always the fucking victims even while sucking the blood of the rest of the world.
>>2593548LIST THEM FUCKFACE
POST A GODDAMN META-REVIEW THAT PROVES THIRD WORLDISM IN A SCHOLARLY JOURNAL OF MARXIAN ECONOMICS
AND THEN PROVIDE FURTHER INDEPEMDENT CONFIRMATION THAT THE META REVIEW IS CORRECT
IF YOU ARE A SCIENTIFIC SOCIALIST THAN DO FUCKING SCIENCE INSTEAD OF VIBES AND HEARSAY
>>2593553How much of your blood have I sucked in liters?
>>2593557>>2593554You won't read the books I've cited. I've read them, fyi. I'm not debating illiterate Americans.
>>2593553>I think two very good books by Greek Marxist economist Lefteris>LeftypolterisKek
>>2593553>muh greeksKKE is a stalinoid opportunist party. Bad empanada is a greek. Dont trust greeks.
>>2593560Ok then, shoo. Sorry for your blood loss.
>>2593540Lmao his replies keep getting angrier
>>2593559>look mom, I bave changed the chain of causality!No, son, the chain of causality goes something like this:
>America is rich compared to the rest of the world because literal economic parasitism and political force (including warfare and financial colonization).>American "leftists" are not willing to accept that this benefits them.>Instead they portray themselves as victims.Thank you for the opportunity to learn you some facts.
>>2593562Nobody said anything about the KKE or Badempanada, but I'm glad that I cite books and you reply with e-whores.
Just shows what a piece of shit little community this /USA/pol general amassed over the years.
>>2593571I thought you weren't going to debate us?
Oh, and when you guys say anything bad about China, even the slightest criticism, you are automatically nazis in my book, even if you claim you are a leftist. As an American you have no right to utter a single bad word about AES countries because no matter how "critically critical" your intentions are you are inadvertently pushing the CIA's efforts, no matter what red paint you throw over it.
Who need those books when we have THE INVARISNT THESES OF LE PARTY, HUH? AN ILLITIRATE SLOGANEERING IGNORAMUS WHO DEFENDS INVARIANT LINE OUT OF BLIND FAITH IS BETTER THAN A EDUCATED OPPORTUNIST, OKAY?
>>2593574I wouldn't call this a debate, it's more akin to bullying a mentally deficient child. I feel dirty doing it, but you faggots are the loudest barbarians on this site and I'm so done tolerating your bullshit, tbh.
but without the communist party, there would be no china?
Americans don't go into other country threads and tell them how to do their own internal politics. Yet everyone and their grandma assumes they can walz in here and talk shit as if we're responsible for the literal dictators that rule us
>>2593585If you don’t take full responsibility for foreign policy decisions you didn’t vote for and had nothing to do with, you’re a narcissistic vampire!
Mods, permaban anon who suggested greek oppurtunist books.
New photos released from Epstein’s estate showing Trump, Bannon, Bill Clinton and other high-profile people
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/epstein-photos-trump-clinton-bannon>>2593577I don't give a flying fuck about your deranged lives. I'm talking about your currency, what global factors influence the price of the goods you buy, and what costs the rest of the world pays for them.
You are so unfamiliar with the topic that you don't even know what is being discussed, yet you are highly oppinionated. This is another very American cultural trait, the "fake it till you make it" attitude that the civilized world views as evil.
>>2593587Nonono you don't understand. You know those psychopathic capitalist imperialist assholes who are the worst scum on earth and breathe death and destruction upon the entire rest of the world? That class? Well you wouldn't believe it but they treat us so well here! We're so lucky to have them as owners
>>2593592You post a lot for a guy that doesn't care
>>2593592You fucking retard you think we don't know all of that? We're fucking communists. Why do you think you need to educate us on how the fucking GLOBAL RESERVE CURRENCY works when we fucking live here?
>>2593597>we>communistsNo you are not.
>>2593592Very ironic too to br screaming I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU!!!! While simultaneously screaming WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ME?!?!
Where are you from by the way? An AES country?
He is greek 100%.
>>2593604
Are you from an AES country?
>>2593604
Fuck anyone who does that, and fuck anyone who slanders AES. Maybe those assholes should shut the fuck up and stop assuming they understand the internal politics of a place they don't fucking live in without very deep study?
Really funny how the 2 Chinese posters I've ever seen here are nothing like these TWists. Lmao
>got fucked in the ass by capital
>"waaaaah its americas fault waaaaaaahhh"
>>2593611America is capital, they are one and the same
>>2593582You have to wait it out until the angels overthrow the Vampire Empire. Then, possibly 5 years of forced reeducation in "died camps" (ead da salad, Noooooo!) and then your vampirism will be cured.
There is no revolutionary potential for the global labor aristocracy. Leninists argued this for a century and they were proven correct.
What remains for you is pseudo-praxis (BLM, DSA, CPUSA, ZOMZANI MAMDANI, LGBTQIA+, ANTIFA, FOODZ NOT BOMBZ, etc etc) or resignation. Both are shitty choices, the latter at least being honest.
Btw, if you retards want to know "when" the revolutionary potential will be back for le West, the first signs will come from the periphery, the "between world" of global North and South. When you see revolutions happening there, core countries will eventually regain revolutionary potential as well. So far the only revolutionary potential is in the fucking third world but your Empire consistently crushes them.
>>2593589What the American said:
>Mods, permaban anon who suggested greek oppurtunist books.What the American meant:
>Mods, permaban anon who suggested greek oppurtunist books. >>2593618
Is it you Chagos poster? You really live in Mauritius?
The problem I have when non American communists come in to explain to us how imperialism works, is that we already fucking know. They think that if we just understood imperialism that praxis for it's defeat would magically roll out before us, completely ignoring the fact that we been knew for fucking 100 years and that hasn't changed shit because believe it or not, American imperialism is a fucking massive force that can't just be wished away, nor can it be "overthrown" by the imperial core workers either.
>>2593593>Well you wouldn't believe it but they treat us so well here! We're so lucky to have them as ownersIn relative terms this is objectively true. Compare yourself to how the comprador bourgeosie treat their African proles (i.e. real countries) instead ro your Bernie encrusted utopia where you get EU style healthcare and higher minimum wages.
>>2593623>nor can it be "overthrown" by the imperial core workers either.Source?
>>2593618
>im an African living in Africa
Uh huh
>>2593602>While simultaneously screaming WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ME?!?!I'm not screaming this because as a Leninist I don't expect labor aristocrats to have solidarity with the global proletariat. It's simply against your material interests.
>>2593604
>Take some accountability for once in your life
They can't. They are Americans.
>>2593617That is exactly correct, except that leftist "pseudo praxis" in the core is very good for the immigrants of the third world who live here and would prefer not to be put in concentration camps, and also the working class in general. Our leftwing praxis in America has very little to do with imperialism whatsoever, neither strengthening nor weakening it significantly.
Which is fine, whatever. But it would be nice if when we tried to improve the lives of our most sick and disadvantaged, homeless and poverty stricken, that it wasn't seen as "treatlerite entitlement" just because we'd like our poorest not to suffer
>>2593627American workers will demand avocados and hot sauces and precious metals that don’t belong there and will commit the same imperial crimes as their bourgeois
Capitalism will end and nothing will replace it, there won’t be a system
You know what?
Fuck Marxists. You people are resentful, pretentious losers who do nothing but bitch and moan that other people aren’t doing revolution for you while you fucking make up people to be mad at in your heads.
You people spend your lives yelling at strawmen on the internet, and then you wonder where your revolution is. JUST FUCKING LOG OFF.
Fuck it, I’d rather side with the goddamn anarchists. At least they actually do shit and they’re not motivated by ressentiment.
>>2593630Mods, why dont you permaban this falsifier?
>muh labour aristocracy is average usa workerHoly shit!
>>2593585As long as the american empire affects the internal politics of my country I will come here and shit on DSA and CPUSA shills who collaborate with demonkkkraps, it really is that simple. Dont like it? Do better then.
>>2593608>YOU HAVE TO LIVE HERE TO UNDERSTAND MY SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE EXISTENCE, LOOK AT ME MOMMY, I AM STAND POINT THEORY POMO BRAINROTI just read books instead. Everybody is already familiar with your culture because as of now you are still the global hegemon.
>>2593634Your poorest are every bit as vampiric as your richest, your walmarts would be empty and your houses cold if the third world had any real sovereignty, every breath you take is oxygen stolen
>>2593609Ask any Chinese communist if s/he thinks there's revolutionary potential in the USA.
>>2593640I mean I get it, you're retarded and you don't know how our system actually works and are therefore somehow dumber than an American. But maybe do us all a favor and be kind when you're trying to encourage other workers to band together. Maybe you should come visit sometime to see what it's really like here
>>2593635so third worldists and anti-third worldists actually agree
>>2593645Maybe you're just a psychopath then?
>>2593647They’re too busy in the factories making shit for walmart
>>2593648he's just trolling
America will have revolution when chinatown chinese worker class people start revolting. That will only happen when CPC launches a revolutionary watchword. CPC is waiting for the perfect moment. Trust the Plan.
>>2593653What it seems like is a BE discord raid. Very weird flood
Well played
>>2593650Your $7 minimum wage is a superwage, it’s way above the global average and is only possible because others have to live on a single dollar or 50 cents
>>2593655It's sadder than that, it's usually BE discord mods spending time here lol
>>2593648>Maybe you should come visit sometime to see what it's really like hereI would get sent into a concentration camp by ICE and Zohran would tell me to not resist meanwhile the DSA shills here would say he is being "strategic", no thanks.
>>2593611>Be 20th centure AES>CIA/Soros funded youngsters overthrow socialism>sell off all industry to Western capital>have to become migrant worker to be able to liveYes, anon, it is literally the collective west's fault. The good guys lost. The bad guys won. We live in the period of the blackest reaction, but inside that blackness, at the center of it all is the black hole known as America.
In my mind at least, you guys are the radiation emanating from that black hole.
Deport every white American to the UK
>>2593549Kinda wish they had fisherman who need to be on the water to eat can't go but this fucking nation selling cunt can, fuck that.
>>2593613
What did you think about the mathematic formulas used in the book?
>drivel
Oh, wait, you didn't read nuffin, lol
>>2593647>Ask any Chinese communist if s/he thinks there's revolutionary potential in the USA.What even is one? Well I guess tbf the two who posted here were not communists. They were rather boring because they know literally nothing about communism, the chinese communist party, or their government. To them that was all above their paygrade. They were probably closer to the average Anerican.
Kill kill KILL KILL KILL
You know what?
Congratulations! You people have shown me the way.
Humanity are a bunch of backbiting children. The workers of the world will never unite because you’re all a bunch of petty shitheads who just want to yell and moralize until the sun goes out.
The anarcho-nihilists are right. Everyone is plugged into capital to the point of total brain death.
The fucking TWists on here are the final future form of treatlerites, getting off on the interactive spectacle of cruelty and playground bullshit
Thanks, Marxists! You’ve shown me why Marxism can’t win. Because you’re all a bunch of petty shitheads!
>>2593623>we already fucking knowYou don'. It is perfectly evident whenever you leave this echo-chamber general to the rest of the community, you arrogant know-it-all ignoramus.
>>2593663I'd rather honestly take cyanide than live on that bum ass island
>>2593674NTA but yes, we do, you want people ITT to be the treatlerite in your head
>>259366990% of humanity are a bunch of immature tribalists
>>2593674>You don'. It is perfectly evident whenever you leave this echo-chamber general to the rest of the community, you arrogant know-it-all ignoramus.Bruh, 90% of this board is Americans probably. Lol.
>>2593679this place needs flags on every poast
>>2593671Marx was already a petty backbiting bitch to Proudhon, to Baknunin, to August Willich, to Max Stirner
>groypers
>BE stans shit stirring
I fucking hate influencer fans so much. We need fucking gulags for screen addicts
>>2593682
See, this is why you people are insufferable.
I fucking hate this country. I have contempt for a third of the electorate. You think I’m not glad it’s losing?
But that doesn’t fit your “DURRRRR TREATLER” narrative, so you pull out some stock phrase.
You’re LARPers
>>2593686
August Willich was a better man and a better communist than Marx could ever hope to be, he just didn’t get worshipped and recouped by Academia
>>2593685Get off the internet if you wanna have a real conversation
>>2593662
>it's the weekend… can we stop fighting?
Bruh i already told you, it's a weekday. What, do you have a 4 day work week?
>>2593623>is that we already fucking knowJust the other day someone implied imperialism and capital are somehow disconnected things and that imperialism doesnt shape the internal class politics of the US and there were several replies that didnt point out that basic mistake. You retards dont know anything and yet act like you have nothing to learn.
Just stop endorsing democrats bro is it really that hard? Why cant the DSA stop collaborating with a genocidal imperialist party?
>>2593634So let me summarise what you want. You want a steady supply of migrant workers doing the shitty jobs your lazy labor aristocrat can't be bothered to do but you want them to have a better experience, maybe even allow the second generation to become a labor aristocrat or p-bourg themselves. You want nicer healthcare, wages, infrastructure, more inclusive social policies, etc.
So what I'm hearing is:
>I'm the type of Democrat that actually wants to do the things the "nicest" Democratic candidates (Bernie, etc.) say they want to doIn short, you are not a communist, just a lukewarm lib with socdem tendencies. You live in the dream of the (now long gone) Scandinavian model. Your "utopia" is capitalism with a smily face – at the cost of complete impoverishment of the rest of the world, ofc.
Do you understand why I considervyou my enemy as a communist?
>>2593692
Theory sucks because anything written or recorded can always be coopted by academics
>>2593698
Destroy language
>>2593637pseudo-praxis, then
Enjoy your delulu.
The problem with calling it psuedo praxis implies there is a real praxis beyond waiting for the sun to swallow the earth
Wtf is praxis?
>>2593682
too bad for socialism then. lets abandon it for bourgeois nationalism instead
Communism won’t fix my back problems nor will capitalism
>>2593707
all that’s missing is abolish the species
You know its real DSA shills hours on /USApol/ when people start bringing BE into the conversation out of nowhere
>>2593712most communists are actually accelerationists and they are just as disruptive as feds. how can communism win when 80% of communists are sabotaging any working class project?
>>2593712This isn’t a party, it isn’t an organization, it’s not important, stop treating the internet as anything other than a place to vent
>>2593713Sorry to hear that bro. I heard Luigi has back problems too.
>>2593712>Like there's a concentrated effort to make sure no productive conversation can happen here…Glad I'm not the only one noticing this
>>2593718Internet is a forum where parties and organizations can spread propaganda.
>>2593712>America and people start talking about actually organizingThe problem is that when burgers say "organizing" they actually mean democratic party entryism, once this mistake is corrected, you will see more people saying things like "based" instead of "treatlerites". Hope this works.
>>2593723Ah thats easy. Go here international-communist-party.org/ and read, okay?
>>2593716Thankfully Leftypol does not represent communism either in America or globally and is entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, so no matter how bad shit gets here I take solace in knowing that real work is being done while we absorb the biggest retards. Perhaps that's our contribution to Da Left (trademark), acting as a sponge for bad faith dipshits much like the ACP acts a sponge for parasocial conservative nationalists
>>2593654Chinese diaspora world wide? Population about 2 billion. Every china man has CPC brain implant genetically added to their curriculum vortex part of the mind ready to be activated by Xi Jinping at the push of the button and then world revolution starts.
Why China don't push button?
It is secret but I have high level sources inside the CPC. Basically, Xinping spent years living in America when he was younger. He learned to deeply hate the Americans. He is not pushing the instant communism button for the west because he hates you all.
Rightfully so.
You don't deserve communism. You must first repent in reeducation camps, forced by Chinese CPC occupying forces to eat salads and learn math and read books, and do physical labor.
Only then, after you repented your sins and abandoned your barbaric ways, will Xi even CONSIDER giving you a little bit of communism. And if you misbehave he will immediately take away that little piece of communism and send you back to died camps.
That young Xi Jinping's name? Albert Einstein.
>>2593701Anarchists have a lot of flaws but they at least try shit.
The fuck are you doing except waiting for geopolitics to save you?
>>2593723You’re nit going to beat those algorithms that will be against you and the opsec downsides are not worth it, fling your shit, treat it like an Anal Cunt show, leave anything at all serious offline
>>2593727
You have no dick.
>>2593726nah, its a general trend among zoomer leftoids. they all want to virtue-signal about how radical they are, and how everyone else is a liberal or socdem
>>2593662
I'm an actual prole that has to work on saturdays as well while owning basically two bags worth of shit.
>>2593732
Alright. What are you doing RIGHT NOW that isn’t yelling at strangers online every day?
Go on tough guy. What org are you with? Are you organizing any labor actions? Are you educating new members? Are you training anybody in safety measures or firearm use or etc etc etc?
>>2593730Unironically that seems to be the plan if Dengoids are anything to go by. Just let China do efficient capitalism and something something the productive forces. Who needs communism when you can just profit for eternity and live bicuriously through another country's "socialism"?
>>2593732
Nah he is cooking, anarkiddies are retarded but they do actually try. I would take an anarchist over a DSA or CPUSA strasserite any day.
>>2593737The only reason social media allowed the narrative to change on Palestine is muslim bourgeois money, not gonna happen with capitalism, the internet wouldn’t exist under socialism anyway, how are you gonna nationalize tubes that go to every country under the ocean?
>>2593744by trying, you mean lifestylism to virtue signal how le radical and le based you are?
>>2593666>They were probably closer to the average Anerican.You'd wish the avg American was closer to the avg Chinese.
>>2593747We should drink baijiu and eat hot pot together
>>2593744Thanks anon, you MLoids aren't so bad yourself, all memes aside.
>>2593751Vast majority of the internet is porn, porn is banned under socialism
>>2593712I don't mind if americans try to organize, but it's more likely you guys are gonna get barbarism instead of socialism.
>>2593676I don't "want ppl to be treatlerites" because that's something not decided by people. It's an economic and geopolitical fact. You xan chose to be a treatlerite in denial, but you'd still remain a treatlerite.
>>2593755That was the old system. A new kind of communism is emerging in America. A horny kind of communism
>>2593758
Isn't there that Indian billionaire dude? And also Calla Walsh has some rich patron I forget who.
Move out of America, it’s a lost cause
>>2593759Yes, you do.
You’re clearly getting off on this.
>>2593697We live in 2025. Deng was proven correct in theory and in praxis. In fact he influenced the world so much that I would put him next to Lenin as the most influential politician in modern history.
Deal with the facts.
>>2593770Ruthless capitalist politician is now lenin
>>2593750I will always have a soft spot for you guys :)
>>2593773Capitalism is good if it's Chinese
You can either have treats or political agency, you can’t have both
Mao should have had Deng Xiaoping drawn and quartered during the Cultural Revolution instead of letting him get rehabilitated.
>>2593779And let it be run by Jian Qing? Chinese Hillary Clinton? No thank you
>>2593781No retard, by Hua Guefong
>>2593712What you retarded treatlerite braindead labor aristocrat p-bourg computer god faggots mean by "organizing" is 99% of the time actually shilling for the Dems in one way or another. BLM? Dem pipeline. DSA? Dem pipeline. CPUSA? Dem pipeline.
As far as you are this
>>2593695 you are my enemies.
>>2593782Everyone knows Jiang was the leader of the gang of four, the others her puppets
BE raking in those cointelpro bucks and we're just letting him do it for free
>>2593552
USApol really has its own lolcow I wonder if the brits and brazilians and germans have their own as well
>>2593785
Have red guards go into full civil war against the PLA until communism somehow
>>2593783You are nothing but target practice for my cadres
>>2593553post wall socket amerifat
>>2593783Yeah and it's fine. Not much else we can do for now. We have this one guy here who's trying to do a revolution by himself and he'll be shot in like a year
>>2593789Brit pol has that biracial dude always ranting about race realism. Brg used to have Sandi.
>>2593786There is no need for cointelpro when the DSA and CPUSA redirect all revolutionary potential right back into the uniparty plantation.
>>2593780Yaya it's rlly funny how maoism got snuffed out by foreign capitalist interest through beijing politics cus it makes me soo mad
>>2593784Do you know who removed the Gang of 4 ?
>>2593793Most likely by himself, every “radical” American is driven by sublimated suicidal ideation
>>2593797>Revolutionary energyMuh vibes
>>2593801
Yeah him.
>>2593799The BBC removed them from the radio and stores, or was that the sex pistols?
>>2593783You say that but it's pretty much just a self fulfilling prophecy, because when people try organizing beyond that they get shouted down as "treatlerites" for not immediately shooting up a police station and that pretty quickly drains enthusiasm until all you have left are the entryists and the schizos. You people are the greatest tool the DSA and CPUSA have
>>2593806>The people on Leftypol are to blame because they're mean to youCalm your tits you dramatic pussy
Think I’m gonna try fentanyl at work today
I think the amount of hate that CPUSA and DSA gets makes me think they're probably very effective at what they do.
>>2593730Enjoy your delulu.
>>2593811No BE don't do it haha!
>>2593814Chat, is this real?
>>2593815My coworkers have cocaine to share, ill be fine
Can any DSA or CPUSA shills here actually explain to me why do they always have to end up shilling democrats again and again and again no matter how many times they end up supporting the status quo? Whats this strategy called? How is it grounded on historical materialism? When are we going to see the results? What even are the expected results?
>Trump to Name Peru a Major Non-NATO Ally Amid Anti-Drug PushPeru is imperialist
https://archive.ph/W2a3h >>2593821Electoralism doesn’t work, terrorism doesn’t work, labor organizing just reinforces labor aristocracy so there’s really nothing you can do
We should make the DSA the uniparty dictatorship so we can finally enact vengeance on leftypol Third Worldists. Honestly with all the hate Burgers get on here, we should strive for as many counterrevolutionary reforms as we can just to keep the imperialism going until they say sorry
>>2593765Very few Americans are socially functional outside the USA. You have to eat a lot of garlic while living abroud to suppress the vampirism.
>>2593829If Russians are Orcs and Americans are vampires, what does that make Chinese or Indian people
>>2593821The electoral system here requires it, but also the Democrats aren't really a "party" like what you actually think of. You don't have to even pay fees to be a "Democrat". It's incredibly loosely associated, which makes "entryism" actually viable. There's nothing the Dems "leadership" can do to stop it within the mechanisms of the "party" itself. All they can do is bitch and moan and spend as money to talk shit
>>2593835High elves and wood elves
>>2593812Yws, rhey are very effective at making """communists""" voote blue
>>2593802I like how you had to actually change a word in my post to cope.
The center left does the same thing in all countries btw.
>>2593814Borderline racist – but that's okay on usa/pol where every social fascist is welcome
American is an ideology not a nationality, you cannot be a communist and an American at the same time
>>2593842
They’re just another flavor of white
>>2593838>The electoral system here requires itBut why can't DSA or CPUSA do anything that doesnt involve electoralism?
>>2593697Deng mindbroke vibes based western "Maoists" because he did actual Marxist analysis
>>2593773>>2593780All you can do is cope "nuh uh Deng's not Marxist"
>>2593821>Whats this strategy called?Labor aristocratic class collaboration.
>How is it grounded on historical materialism?It's not.
>When are we going to see the results?Never.
>What even are the expected results?1970's Scandinavian Model.
die die die die DIE DIE DIE
>>2593835Indians are goblins that have the magical ability to look into a mirror and see a blond haired elf. Chinese are, well at least according to racist right wing memes, insectoids. I think the schizo alien races theory has this name: Mantids.
>>2593848They do? Like have you read anything? They organize strikes, help against union busting, literally move people's furniture back into their apartments after getting evicted and blockade the police. Like dude the history of the CPUSA is insanely rich you're not being genuine if you don't see that. They got us weekends, minimum wage, overtime pay, sick leave, literally every single worker protection we have today is directly the result of the CPUSA
>>2593838>The electoral system here requires itAll I hear is:
>Brando has electrolytes, it's what plants crave. >>2593857Identical to labor zionists, might as well uphold David Ben Grunion
>>2593857Thank you for the treats, CPUSA. Now voote bloo
>>2593858
>>2593859
So you're just being assholes at this point to the struggles the American working class has faced since the 1890s. The CPUSA is almost 150 years old and they were here through thick and thin. Remember when black people couldn't fucking vote? Remember when children had no labor protections? You don't know a fucking thing about the USA. Get the fuck out of here you fucking faggots
>>2593866Those treats are all very nice. I 100% agree. Now voote bloo
>>2593866The effect of all of that is strengthened imperialism, treats for bloodsuckers
>>2593857>>2593866Correction 100 years
>>2593873
Top kek
>>2593873
You're showing your sociopathy. Callous piece of shit I hope you choke on BE's cock
>>2593875I hope u vooot bloo noo moottor whooo
>>2593875Die you parasite, you and every other American
>>2593866Yeah but see that benefits Americans, which is bad because Americans are all evil and every dollar an American earns is made with the blood of third world babies. Dont ask me how this works, it just does and if you question it you're a Hitlerite
>>2593878American wages go up, American porky extracts value from proles lower on the value chain, the American gets a wage above a dollar
>>2593879
They can never point how BE is wrong, just invoking him as a slur
Put every American on trial for every war crime, they are all collectively responsible
It's such fucking dog shit that we can get brigades like this for hours on end by anti-communist low quality "anti-imperialist" troll posters and the mods nor jannies do shit to clean it up.
>>2593854Also I believe that Woody Allen might've actually played baseball in high school. I don't if he was any good but I think I read that on wikipedia.
>>2593886Only liberals believe in individualism
>>2593878>Dont ask me how this worksI would never ask you about anything how it works. You were given books that explain it to you and you refuse to educate yourself. You use ignorance as a way to remain the victim, you narcissist sociopath.
>>2593879If you are american "leftist" you have to identify with e-whore streamer theory. You must choose:
>Hazism MAGAcommunism>BE third worldiism with sex pest characteristics>Juche-Unruhe thought>Marxism-Leninism-Chapoism (first worldism)>Zohran Yolandi Die AntvoordismIn any case, the main split between these tendencies is on whomst you should hate (China, the dems, the rednecks, etc.) and how shoud you voot (bloo no matter who, only 'the good' bloo, MAGA, or that guy who wears a boot for a hat.)
>>2593889If you are in this economy you are responsible
>>2593887Trolls in this thread are almost the entire PPH of the board.
>>2593893Without it this board would be dead
>>2593869>lack of child labor is a "treat"you have a misanthropic r9k mindset
>>2593894Die devil, ill give you heroin to help
>>2593857>he history of the CPUSA is insanely rich I'm talking about today, gramps.
>>2593897If your kids had to actually work they wouldn’t shit themselves on the ipad or act entitled or go through ai psychosis or get groomed on roblox
>>2593894>still not understanding how anything works>paint it as something you kind of understand (religion)>you have now mastered that thingDo americans reallly?
>>2593905Hey now, I’m on the toilet, no stains here
>>2593899I would answer but it's not like you would give a shit or believe anything I say. You'll just be a sarcastic unserious asshole like every other brigadeer. Fucking Google it, faggot
>>2593902>Do americans reallly?Your mother? Yes, when we come of age. It is considered a rite of passage.
>>2593901your not better than anyone and NPCs are not real btw
>>2593898>if you think I’m wrong you don’t understand Motherfucker you don’t even understand what people in this thread disagree with you about, you dumb asshats think people are denything that imperialism exists
>>2593910Imperialism is why you have clothes, food, or air, if not you would have the life quality of 1800s China
>>2593909That’s because video games aren’t real
>>2593897It is a very, very, very good treat, indeed. Almost as good as the new iPhone 12 with 5G and Swiss lense cameras with improved AI interface.
The treatlerite math is usually simplified down to funkopops. Black people not getting lynched in the USA all the time is worth like 10 funkopops. Women can vote? 3 funkopops. Child protection laws? 20 funkopops.
The math is pretty simple and self-explanatory.
>>2593912no proofs just individualistic narcissism lmao
>>2593915Why do you think you can get socks for $2 at walmart?
>>2593917How much do you pay for socks?
>>2593914consult picrel
>>2593917>still no proofs not suprised tbh
>>2593857>the history of the CPUSA is insanely richYou know what's also insanely rich? The creamy taste of a pumpkin spice latte topped with cinnamon crusty goodness followed by three dunkin donuts. If you put on your ideology glasses, the pumpkin spice latte turns into the blood of the global proletariat too!
Enjoy, fellow vampire.
>>2593923
Not an argument
>>2593924Yes, since you asked nicely. If you request it I can offer you an official balkan document that says you may enjoy meat without feeling guilt too. That way you don't have to pretend you care about animals to virtue signal.
>>2593924get cherry flavored they satisfy the blood cravings more
>>2593907I just want to know why cant they stop cucking out to the genocidal uniparty, thats all. Contrary to the rest of the people on "my side" I dont think those achievements you mentioned are just treats for treatlerites, they are legit achievements, but from an outsider perspective it seems CPUSA right now is just an arm of the democratic party.
The main communist party in my country does the same thing right now with the center left neoliberal establishment, these compatible parties or orgs like the DSA are an international problem, but you burgers think they are the way they are because of your own peculiar local conditions.
>>2593923
>no rebuttal
figures
>takes oil tanker
>"it's sanctioned trust me"
>does absolutely nothing the next day
>>2593937
Smell that? It's bourgeois stuff going up ya nose.
>>2593930>the way they are because of your own peculiar local conditions.its pretty funny seeing a generation of the burger left go through the SPD great betrayal in real time and not realize this has happens in every country once anything nominally socialists starts picking up steam.
>>2593948
Even if you dont have a two party system all the establishment center left parties and the right wing parties end up making coalitions and you get a duopoly very similar to the one you see in the US.
>>2593952Bruh AfD is polling at 25% right now lol
>>2593954Based. AfD is anti-imperialist.
>>2593956yep cancelling elections would be my guess
>>2593958Well the problem with AfD is the German constitution explicitly forbids 'anti-democratic' political parties so it's only a matter of time before the party gets banned and dismantled
>>2593959Which would be great for us because it'll be trivial for communists to mobilize the masses to back an uprising. In this case the DSA and CPUSA's closeness with the dems can work to our advantage by giving us easy access to a supply of radicalized wine moms who are willing to burn down the entire government if it means they can go back to having brunch.
>>2593963Constitution can be changed. All it takes is reichtag to be set on fire.
>>2593969
Constitution is not so rigid in Germany as it is in USA.
I don't think neoliberalism has enough life left in it for fascists to try and "change it" (save it)
Fascism cannot technically "come back" because all the economic policies of the Nazis and babaty boopity fascists was used as the basis for the current fiscal system. There can only be victim blaming now. Muzzies, russian saboteurs, transhumanists and commies. Whatever new group is conveniently at fault for the crisis that is to come.
>>2593969
america literally blew up the main german economic lifeline to Russia and nothing happened. World wars were started over less. At this point americas constitution is more easily changed lol
2020s imperialism is so boring and dull I never expected capitalism in decay to be so fucking boring
>>2593993
Nonsense. Medieval peasant wars were cool as shit.
>>2593998every member of this government says the same thing it makes me so sleepy
Is AI and microchips really all that's keeping the "greatest economy" charade intact? That's it? China needs to invade Taiwain =right now.==
>>2594006
I don't think peaceful integration is possible. America very recently straight up owns Taiwanese industry neocolonial French style just in the past few months. The Kuomintang will never be allowed to reconsolidate power.
>>2594007
I still respect Marx’s intellectual achievements. My attitude towards Marx at this point is that of most anarchists: brilliant and indispensable thinker, crappy guy, insufferable followers.
>>2594008
I hate Musk but “i want to see trans kids” is a weird thing to say
>California sues Trump administration over $100K visa fee for skilled workers. Attorney General Rob Bonta says the price of H-1B visas creates an illegal financial burden on employers
>>2594008
>my daughters are Acetaminophen, Chlamydia (she goes by 'The Clap), and Scantron and they love me very much
Kek. I wonder if he has to look up the names of the 27? all the time.
How did we get from "I like Ike" to "Trumps is literally Jesus Christ incarnate"
Is someone named me "Y" I'd probably transition also.
>>2593964>DSA and CPUSA's closeness with the dems can work to our advantageThis is how treatlers rationalize supporting bourgeois parties.
I dont hate trccns and i dont want to see them dead or anything but I just do not get it
The whole procedure of becoming the other
My small brain does not comprehend
>>2594015My bad the clap is gonnorhea. I huess it works because Exa and Y have nothing to do with each other either
>>2594018She is Exa but goes by Y
>>2594021"While I canvass for Bernie the Democrats are working FOR ME, not the other way around."
"Even though I'm a prole the capitalists work FOR ME!"
*zaps you with the woke mindvirus*
I don't believe in the trans thing but I also don't care. I don't care about the transitioning kids thing either considering that it is also considered normal to put every kid on psychiatric medication. Let people do what they want with their bodies/children. Not my problem.
>>2594021No it's the simple logic that most of the Democrat base would react with fury to a GOP coup and communists would be the ones to give them a solution, overthrow the government. Then when the dust settles we establish a dictatorship of the proletariat, where we already have the productive forces necessary to skip the "capitalism but with planning" phase of communism
I keep forgetting Trump has demolished the east wing of the white house.
>>2594036
The entire premise but I don't want to get into it. I'm glad the mods made the lgbt board so I can hide all the threads with one click. I never post there.
>>2594041
I mean it does because that means an entire part of the white house is forever trumpian. Everyone will point at the several billion dollar redesign and say "that's the Trump part".
>>2594035
>They represent the interests of the majority of the country, they won by popular vote
First off a majority of people dont even voot in our national elections to begin with. Two, a non insignificant portion of the voots for Trump were more just against Harris than anything else. And three, Republicans have an abysmal approval rating right now of like 30%, Brandon 2.0 shit except Brandon is being deliberately belligerent for no reason. They already lost all major elections this November and they're poised to lose even more next year. If they want to retain control a coup or some other situation where they can suspend elections is the only way, and they will absolutely do that because they genuinely believe that they're saving America from communism.
>>2594038it cracks me up knowing his stupid ass ballroom is gonna be bigger than the actual whitehouse
>>2594021Is not just treatlers that fall for center-left "working from the inside" slop, is an international thing, I think most countries in latam have some sort of institutional "USAID left" which fulfills the same function DSA and CPUSA do in the US despite their conditions being very different from the US.
>>2594052It's not "working from the inside", because in a scenario outside of a Republican coup their collaboration with the Dems makes them less than useless, and within that scenario it's only useful as a way to easily channel mass support for a revolution and establishment of a DOTP. None of this is an endorsement of entryism or the Dems in and of itself
I think I'd wanna KMS if I lived in a country with like one communist party, if even that. there's lots of options here it's great
>>2594035
Motherfucker almost half of eligible voters don’t vote. They represent at best 30% and the rest are swing voters with short term memory loss
HE LOVES SOMALIA
>>2594062
watch it vanish before your eyes as the AI bubble crashes the market
>>2594066How long do I have to wait? 10, 20, 30 years?
>>2594068
Of course we will run out. AI doesn't grow on trees.
>>2594062
Come on dude, that 401k thing is going to be a pittance that children wont be able to have access to until they turn 18 and wont actually make a difference. Shit sucks here and everyone knows it
>>2594067I'm no Nostradamus but the beauty of capitalistic crises is that its inevitable just as open conflict between imperialist states is
>>2594068
>he assumes america will always have tech and innovation superiority
Marx said capitalist crisis (and the chance of revolution, albeit limited) happens every 30 years or so. And he was right.
>>2594082
And when we suck those dry, what then? What happens when they revolt like west africa is doing to France? What will we have to preserve any scrap of control over the western world? It's over. The American Empire will be dead within this century.
>>2594088
>Then we do it to Japan
We already have. In fact, that's what Americas plan has been for a few years now. Japan is one of the few capitalist countries that still has a significant shipbuilding industry. America has wanted them to pay up more and remilitarise to take the load off the pacific for years. That and South Korea.
>>2594086
Not with tariffs they wont. You seem to be assuming that America can just keep growing economically and buying off its working class in perpetuity for some reason
>>2594094
>I’m talking about sending Americans to homestead Japan and kill and replace it’s population
If America ever becomes that desperate, Japan would ironically win.
>>2594095
It doesn't need to be "stopped". It's killing itself.
>>2594095
It's basically already imploding on itself in slow motion, that's why the government is desperately flailing around for a war they think they can win. The last gasps of an empire. It can and will happen and we should prepare for it rather than assuming America will just keep growing forever, because that's both defeatist and idealist.
>>2594100
A reserve currency that has had to devalue itself several times over the past 40 years to keep up. America is no longer the most powerful economic bloc.
>>2594062
…you seriously believe them when they say that shit?
Come the fuck on, it’s just more politician talk. They’re not following through on that, they’re just saying shit to try and buy off voters.
>>2594100
China's started offering dollar security bonds at more favorable yield rates than the federal reserve. america is no longer the exclusive lender of USD anymore
>>2594103
Do it then. I'll be fine. I'll be here to established to the posadist internationale.
>>2594032>I don't believe in the trans thing but I also don't careI don't believe in the trans thing either and I do care because I care about children, plus I believe the trans agenda is hurting the broader LGB cause. I'm not gay, btw, but my lesbian friend told me there are a shit ton of… shall we say… 'trans skeptics' inside the movement that prefer to remain silent.
In the current cultural climate you have to be 100% for or against something and are disowned if you want nuance by both camps.
I know it's merely a reality TV show, but I told people here to watch I am Jazz because it literally documents how this crazy mom manipulated her boy into transitioning already in kindergarten.
>When I had my girl and two boys I wanted one more girlis a literal line from the mother, but her fourth kid was born a boy… I let you figure out the rest.
Meanwhile, this kid, post-transition, has his entire identity revolve around "trans activism", never had intimate contact with anyone, never even masturbated before getting OK'd to transition, the fucking operation gets botched, and it's a very Lynchian atmosphere all around the seasons.
Meanwhile you can clearly see that these people do suffer pre- and post-operation. Kid takes shitton of """medicine""" like anti-depressants, downers, uppers, hormones, etc.
In any case, as far as I can tell, the series is either done or is on halt. The kid finally lost weight (since functionally asexual, the kid's only source of pleasure is eating), and stopped posting non-stop avout trans acceptance. They might try to push for a final season to show how in the end everything turned out just fine for Jazz, but a boyfriend is still missing. In any case, I hope they don't make another season because the damage it does to our main character's psyche.
Either that, or when Jazz finally moves out from the family home he might just realize how monstrous his mom was (which the show clearly documents).
I told ppl in this thread that a mass detransitioning has been in the making for years and so far the typical "left" (lib) take is that these people are all right wing transphobes and whatnot, while the majority of them are post-op or post-HRT and otherwise hold generally progressive cultural values, just they realized they believed themselves to be something they were not and that sucks big time.
Okay doomer troll aside, I think we can all agree that utilizing public outrage from an imminent GOP power grab is our best short term bet at achieving revolution in America, unless someone else has a better idea?
>>2594114
Yeah that 30% approval rate really represents the entire American population, and not just diehard MAGA cultists and fascists who see the GOP as the lesser of two evils. Most people are pretty sick of this shit, we just need to be there to ensure we dont backslide into liberalism again.
>GOP: Kill American hegemony rapidly
>DEMS: Kill American hegemony slowly
Truly the greatest anti-capitalist movements in the entire world.
>>2594119Most proles just want to survive day to day.
>>2594111You speak as if republikans do not already have power. You fail to realize that if elektions were removed entirely, nothing change for worker. You fail to grasp how amerikan duopolitic system works. You are are insidious, subtle dick rider.
>>2594123Do you ever stop putting words in people’s mouths?
joo biden
So are we going to war with Venezuela? What ever happened with that?
>>2594134Regime change seems almost certain at this point. It's only been a day anon. The oppositional scumbag neoliberal leader has been talking for days about how democracy is near and it's almost certain she's under CIA protection as we speak.
That oil tanker btw was not going to Iran as the US Government said, it was on route to Cuba.
>>2594106What ur describing is just giving your child gender dysphoria but in reverse. Obviously, given that 99.99% of the population identifies with the gender they're given at birth, imposing the opposite on them will have crazy adverse effects.
I just don't think this example you're describing covers a sizeable amount of transhumans at all, I've never even met a transhuman who didn't start transitioning until well after they started puberty.
>>2593380>we're importing hecking communists!!!!!who believes this really. we literally import the most reactionary anti communists from every country.
>>2594143>99.99% of the population identifies with the gender they're given at birthStraight from the "facts I just made up" department.
>>2594141wtf is that a framed picture of on his desk in pic 03?
>>2594143>99.99% of the population identifies with the gender they're given at birthnot true
> imposing the opposite on themnot being advised
>>2594161It's only going to get worse too if this afrikaner shit is any indication. Dollars to donuts they're going to import the most reactionary honkoids out of europe after the Ukraine War ends.
>>2594143I don't disagree with what you said. My problem is that there's no screening of such shit. The plastic surgery centers are motivated by profit so they basically let anyone get trans'd if they have the money.
I also think that the double standard of how the trans community wishes to be treated vs. how it treats detransers is saying a lot about just how 'secure' these people feel in their new identities.
And then there are trans people who don't get the op nor hormone treatment and we're not supposed to call them transvestites because that's not politically correct anymore? Okay, give them another name then, but don't tell me that post-surgery M2F is the same as a transvestite, please.
The whole "transitioning" terminology is vague as fuck. It can describe a process of a dude buying female clothes and make up and doing his thang from then on, but also years of tortorous HRT & operations upon operations to 'get everything right.'
I'm angry at this shit because this vagueness can influence the accuracy ot sociological research. Like I've read a trans paper that said 90% of the respondents said (self-reported in an online survey) they didn't detransition after a specified time interval. Okay good for you dude, I jast want to know how these numbers differ with no HRT, HRT, and HRT+op.
I also watched a docu about detransers and I got the impression that a lot of them got duped because they had internalized homophobia.
>I'm not a dirty faggot, I'm a woman>Oops, I've got no functioning penis anymore>Turns out I was gay all alongLike how can this shit be allowed to happen? Because you could read this as castration of gays is OK if it was voluntary and the doc interested in making money gives you the green light.
>>2594168she looks drowned in a tub and wrapped up
>>2594166> Dollars to donuts they're going to import the most reactionary honkoids out of europe after the Ukraine War ends.yep. slava bandera
>>2593310the only reason men are self designated "providers" is because patriarchal society is a protection racket where the "weaker sex" is expected to seek the "protection" of a male in exchange for sex (which leads to children). Protection from what? From the violence of other males. So in patriarchal society men play the dual role of "protecting" their "own" private property (including the women and children) by "providing" them loot from war and "protecting them" from war. If war stopped, the demand for this "protection" racket would dry up.
>>2594125I never put anything in his mouth.
>I think we can all agree that utilizing public outrage from an imminent GOP power grab is our best short term bet at achieving revolution in America, unless someone else has a better idea?We do not agree. The best chance is to build red army now. You say the best hope for revolution is to do nothing until fascism takes over, then ride dick
This has already happened, but dick riders only seek a future of more dick riding. The dick riding got us here in first place
>>2594163>>2594165Sorry, I meant 98%, or 99%, or 97%. Thank you for the nitpicks!! They are less than 1% of the population you fucking retards it was hyperbole
>>2594170>I also think that the double standard of how the trans community wishes to be treated vs. how it treats detransers is saying a lot about just how 'secure' these people feel in their new identities.This just stems from the archetype of detrans grifters who try and weaponize their negative experiences (which can range in reasoning from genuinely making a hasty decision to being pressured out of it) to make money off bashing other transhumans. There's no great hatred for detransitioners outside of the 'detrans grifter' archetype, and those few with a poor worldview who see it as some sort of lack of fortitude. This doesn't justify any mistreatment or negates their wish for respect/rights.
>I also watched a docu about detransers and I got the impression that a lot of them got duped because they had internalized homophobia.These examples you're giving me all come from the psychological profiles of maybe 10 people at most and you're applying it to a population at large, not that this is even an actual psychological profile but moreso just your takeaway from it.
>Like how can this shit be allowed to happen? Because you could read this as castration of gays is OK if it was voluntary and the doc interested in making money gives you the green light.Yeah that's how it works, it's a consent based surgery that you're SUPPOSED to spend a lot of time researching and coming to terms with the potential negative side effects. Now, under capitalism does this mean that some people won't do this and doctor's won't care to check because they're making money off of it? Yeah, but this isn't some shocking indictment of transhumans it's just that some people are retarded and don't think about the things they're doing before they do them.
>Reuters: U.S. intelligence officials temporarily suspended sharing some key information with Israel during the Biden administration over deep concerns about its conduct of the war in Gaza, according to six people familiar with the matter.
>>2594205You can be as asspained as you want to be but you're still wrong. No one identifies with gender from birth. It would be like saying someone was born a celtics fan you dimwit.
>>2594192E-crusaders are literally all zionists who love Israel because they hate arabs, they want to do to arab children in the us and europe what israel does to them
>>2594213Sorry, I meant Assigned Gender At Birth. My point doesn't change at all if w/ that clarification BTW.
>>2594213Gender roles are based in biological differences and culture, it’s not mutually exclusive, before all this labor saving technology dividing labor along this line was necessary for survival. That’s a good thing.
>>2594216Now you're just being obtuse.
>>2594217>people are born celtic fans because they have hands to bouncd basketballs with >>2594221>Now you're just being obtuse.No I'm not, you are the one who wanted to nitpick my original wording when the point I was making was pretty easy to understand.
99% (given that less than 1% of the population is trans) identify with their assigned gender at birth and imposing anything else on them (as was described
>>2594106) doesn't mean anything other than proving that Gender Dysphoria is real.
>>2594225
>. She is a congresswoman and they talk about her like she's in animal is stuff bothers me
I'll never forget being among my MAGA boomer inlaws around 2017, in a car shop with my wife's father and a bunch of her uncles and cousins, and they were talking about Ilhan Omar, they kept calling her a diaper head. It was surprisingly tame considering I was already used to seeing 4klanners saying shit skin, etc. I thought maybe they were toning it down because we were present.
This country loves making fun of the nations it helped turn to shitholes
>>2594170>there's no screening of such shit There is, but in my experience the screening is both another way to make money (standard privatized bureaucracy stuff) and a checkbox on if you've attempted to socially transition (which can be lied about). Sometimes there are places where informed consent is all that's necessary, but that's typically for hormonal therapy (which is reversible, you just gotta use your junk) in the New England states or the Pacific Coast.
That being said, certifying transgenderism on the basis of biometric evidence isn't currently used for diagnosis IIRC either due to a lack of research on the matter or the expense of getting an EEG. The most straightforward way for transgenders to know they're trans nowadays is for them to play with gender, usually with support of friends or relatives, which is heuristically effective enough.
>Okay, give them another name then, but don't tell me that post-surgery M2F is the same as a transvestite, please.It's just 'queer' nowadays. Wasn't 'transvestite' was the catch-all for anyone who wore drag or anyone who transitioned some fourty years ago anyways? (genuine question)
>this vagueness can influence the accuracy ot sociological research.This depends on what you're researching. If you want better prosody between categories of medical transition that aren't being made, that's a problem of the paper. If somehow the identity-category matters, you'd have to look into lit reviews or something.
trump is 2 hours late lol
>>2593385>Fascism is easy to recognize and difficult to definekinda like porn
>>2594242it's because he's objectively on a walker
>>2594184Y'know I wonder if some of this rhetoric will backfire just 'cause ISIS is less of a thing these days. Like personally I can't remember the last headline grabbing Terrorist attack based on radical Islamism. So you've got this grotesque pig of a guy, Randy Fine, and others like Laura Loomer, just nasty and gross looking people, and they keep saying:
>"We've got no other choice, we HAVE to exterminate all the Muslims!"But it's not like "Muslims" are really "doing" anything. Like if you have some 9/11 tier event or even just a particularly bad mass shooting, then that kind of reactionary rhetoric would maybe have greater purchase or a means of metastasizing, but all people are seeing right now is Israel murdering a bunch of kids en masse and then dudes in Yarmukles saying "WE NEED TO KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS HERE!!!!!"
Even among the anti-zionist right, it's not like they
care about Muslims but it doesn't seem like they're talking about them as an entity at all. It seems like the Zionists are trying to amp up Islamophobia as a pressure release valve for growing anti-zionist sentiment, but they don't have any kind of "casus belli" to justify it, so you've just got them seething that we need to do a genocide for reasons that seem way more nakedly in the interest of zionism than most.
>>2594225
This is "Obama's wife is a man" but for the 2025nd century.
>>2594246Hating muslims isn’t cool anymore, it isn’t 2001 no matter how much they wish it was
what bills is he signing this time
>>2594249the pewdiepie raping time bill
obmana
>>2594248you need to question why it was ever "cool" in the first place
>>2594252
ICE get to wear masks. They don't have to prove they're citizens. What if it turns out they're Ukrainians or South Africans. They don't care.
>>2594255Because the assumption was 9/11 was unprovoked, everyone knows the truth now
Mexicos next on the chopping block isn't it.
>>2594256I wouldn’t be surprised if ICE was mostly Israelis and imported Ukrainians. Hell I’m pretty sure there’s undocumented Mexicans in their ranks too.
>>2594246>>2594246>the anti-zionist rightNo such thing. All anti-zionism is left. You just want to minimize anti-imperialism by gatekeeping anti-imperialism.
>>2594265it's starting, biden is talking
>>2594275Kash Patel looks like a wet dog
remember when we beat the soviet union once in ice hockey 50 years ago
remember that
>>2594274Amerikan hate is based in reality. Amerikans survive by genocide and imperialism. It is natural for the exploiter to hate the exploited. Real amerikan wages went up during wbush era. To deny the basis of reality for amerikan chauvinism is simply a denial of amerikan chauvinism
Somalian Army vs the White Stetson Cartel
>>2594280ok but that's unrelated to what i was talking about
We’re reaching the point of total illegitimacy of the state now
>>2594293
look behind you
>>2594289Who cares? Clearly they’re not worried
>>2594297At this point it's not worry, it's delirium.
>>2594298Good, free datura for every American, if you can find your way home you’re an adult
make china win the world cup next year, icing on the cake
44 years later and we're still obsessed with the soviets. Brezhnevs ghost haunts this country.
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>>2594309Why are famous chefs fighting PFAS bans?<The answer, in retrospect, is obvious—and it’s part of a larger campaign to stop bans on Teflon cookware nationwide.https://heated.world/p/why-are-famous-chefs-fighting-pfas?
God, I hate this fucking country.
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