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Are there any reactionary or non communist figures that you kinda support respect or like? And not the I like them because they are a meme or because they sabotaged themselves and their movement. Im talking more so about genuine respect towards them but still disagreeing with most of their policies. It doesnt have to be full like either just some degree of respect.

Hmm. Mannerheim probably.

Kim Yo Jong

She might be reactionary but she hot

>ataturk and yat-sen

they are objectively progressive
>fdr
he is objectively a hilterite

>>2595755
I want to change my answer to the revolutionary Haitian republicans, the coolest thing liberalism produced.


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1980s german greens
Today's greens p trash tho

>>2595755
>he is objectively a hilterite
<helping defeat Hitler is "objectively hitlerite"
People just say whatever don't they?


>>2595733
>Are there any reactionary or non communist figures that you kinda support respect or like?
No

>>2595754
Wtf is wrong with you

>>2595775
Leftcoms are allergice to fun

>>2595764
He didn’t, he fought an inter-imperialist conflict with Japan after baiting them into attacking Pearl Harbor in order to secure American interests in the Pacific

I unironically think Lee Kuan Yew was impressive statesman and he mogs Park Chung Hee

>>2595847
>HE MOGS PARK CHUNG HEE
PROOF, ARGUMENT, SAUCE

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>>2595845
>baiting them into attacking Pearl Harbor
Jesus fucking Christ you're a moron.


>>2595860
>Lao tzu roasted my job

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>>2595816
I don't think I would've "liked" him or agreed with him politically about anything (he was an old-fashioned aristocratic conservative monarchist) but he was a formidable opponent of the Soviet Union who succeeded in maintaining his country's independence.

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>>2595733
Very Interesting thread Comrade, some Non-Communist figures that I respect as at the very least Historically Progressive off the top of my head, from farthest in the past to most recent, are: The Gracchi brothers, Spartacus, Al-Khwarizmi, Leonardo da Vinci, Niccolò Machiavelli, Copernicus, Galileo, William Shakespeare, Issac Newton, Voltaire, Thomas Paine, Maximilian Robespierre, Napoleon Bonaparte, Toussaint L'Ouverture (I get that is contradictory to respect both him and Napoleon, but I digress), Henry Hunt, John Brown, Abraham Lincoln, Charles Darwin, Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman, Gregor Mendel, Otto Von Bismarck (what he did to the Paris Commune was really bad but his Reunification of Germany was Historically Progressive and he was the first leader to pass Social Security so he helped lay the groundwork for Social Democracy), Theodore Roosevelt (only for his Anti-Trust/Pro-Worker Domestic Policy and his Social Democratic Platform as Progressive Party Nominee in 1912, as his Foreign Policy was very Imperialist and Reactionary), Kaiser
William II (he gave Lenin the train ride to Russia that allowed him to launch the Bolshevik Revolution which created the USSR), Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Sun Yat-sen, FDR, Eisenhower (ended the Korean War, supported the New Deal, sent troops to protect Black/New Afrikan students in Little Rock, Arkansas, and warned people about the Military-Industrial Complex), LBJ (This was one of the hardest names to include on this list, and I listed him only for his Great Society Programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, and the Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act, as his Foreign Policy was Imperialist, Anti-Communist, and Genocidal, particularly the Vietnam War that he started with the False Flag “Gulf of Tonkin” incident), Watson and Crick (I get that James Watson is an odious Racist Reactionary, but it dose not take away from the fact that he discovered the DNA Double Helix, 😜🧬!), MLK, Richard Nixon (I know this is a controversial inclusion, but he did preserve the New Deal/Great Society programs, attempted to pass UBI and Single-Payer Healthcare, withdrew U$ Troops from Vietnam, initiated detente with the USSR, and met Mao Zedong), Ray Bradbury, Malcom X, Ken Kasey, John Lennon, Gamal Abdel Nasser, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Yasser Arafat, Ranier Knussmann (A Leftist German Physical Anthropologist who was wrongly accused of being a Racist, just because he accepted the Biological concept of Race and published an extremely accurate Racial Typology, he is probably one of the most underrated Scientists of the 20th Century), Bernie Sanders, Ehud Olmert (The only Zionist Prime Minister who offered a serious and fair Two-State Solution to the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict, which is shown in the Maps I posted, and who was removed from power and thrown in Prison by Mossad for doing so), Gavin Newsom, Billie Joe Armstrong (The Frontman of the Rock Band Green Day, whose magnum opus American Idiot is the greatest Album of the 21st Century, and arguably the greatest Album of all Time), David Reich (The Worlds most prominent Population Geneticist who proved the Steppe Theory of Indo-European origins), Sam Altman (only if he really supports UBI and is not a Fraud), Andrew Yang, and AOC, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2595894
idgi

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>>2596288
Refer to >>2595877

>>2595755
>Kim Yo Jong
>She might be reactionary but she hot
She isn't a reactionary and is a communist

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>>2595845
>He didn’t
Somebody should've told Soviet propaganda artists.

>>2596549
>>2595845
Also even leaving America's role in WW2 aside, FDR was a left leaning liberal who personally like Stalin, oversaw the warmest period of American-Soviet relations in the history of the two countries (which began well before the war), and worked cooperatively with American communists. If you can call this "Hitlerite" then the term loses basically all meaning. The most basic feature of fascism is terroristic repression of the socialist movement at home and (if possible) abroad.

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>>2595733
These guys I have a lot of respect for while acknowledging their flaws.
Simon Bolívar existed pre-Marx but fought against Spanish colonialists and there is a good reason Hugo Chavez liked him. Friedrich Hecker led a rebellion in Baden to overthrow the monarchy, he was unsuccessful so he fled to America and fought the confederates. With Sitting Bull I don’t know what his ideology was but he fought bravely and led his people against American colonialist aggression. Lincoln was probably the worst out of all of these guys but he was on the right side of the civil war and he is a respectable figure even though he did a lot of bad things, but it is no coincidence that Karl Marx wrote to him even if he left him unread. The last one is John Brown who was a Chad, I have no idea if he was a Marxist because nobody knows his political beliefs other than his abolitionist views, he killed slavers and died a martyr, it’s no coincidence that the melody of the song “John Brown’s body” was used for “Solidarity forever.”

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>>2595853
does the park chung hee schizo still post here?
. is there a syngman rhee schizo?

>>2596556
Then again I don’t know if all of these people were reactionary

>>2596559
>>2596556
I would say that they were all progressive non-communist figures that played important roles in pre-proletarian revolutionary struggles.

>>2596564
So would I

>>2595760
Francia was a lion for mandating race mixing to destroy caste and establishing state run industries from land seized from the church/landlords

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>>2595733
Banning slavery: Based
Installing himself as a monarch: Not based
Pushing out colonial influence: based
Ordering the mass-killing of all white people in Haiti: Funny (that’s a joke)
Idk what to make of him

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Im joking

>>2596575
I believe that he and Toussaint did kind of force people back onto plantations to keep up state funding, exacerbating the liberated slaves' preference for being small-holding peasants. This arguably set the stage for Haiti being in turmoil for decades after and leaving it ripe for the exploitation of international capital.
I don't know if he could have or would have tried emphasizing the creation of agricultural communes though.

>>2596590
>I believe that he and Toussaint did kind of force people back onto plantations to keep up state funding, exacerbating the liberated slaves' preference for being small-holding peasants.
The classic two steps forward one step back pattern you see in all progressive Caesarist figures.

>>2596558
Im still here….I just stopped being a schizo about park.

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I like him.

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Apparently Stalin respected some Tsars and they’re generals.

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>>2596556
I second Lincoln and Brown, and I'd like to also add Silas Soule who was a young ally of John Brown who was assassinated for refusing to participate in the slaughter of Native Americans, as well as the three American soldiers who ended the My Lai massacre, and finally John Kehoe and the rest of the Molly Maguires.

>>2596549
>Stalin gobbled western imperialism dick
We are aware


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