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SHOKË ENVER HOXHA GENERAL
I feel like the legendary bunker man is severely under represented in leftypol. I'm pretty sure there was must be a few Hoxhaists here. While I do not know much about Comrade Enver, the little I have read of him is very interesting. For example, his criticism of China and eclecticisms like blending religion and communism (islamic communism e.g).
Let this be a warm bunker for learning and discussing about the Mountain of Tirana.

Deng won.

I remember when I was a Hoxhaist. It's the final stage before becoming a Marxist ("leftcom") and cease coping about Stalin and AES

>>2596499
Comrade Dengist, there are already many threads for you to talk about Deng. This is not a Super Smash Bros event where we spar 'our' Leaders. This is not even a thread for Hoxha 'supporters' (whatever that means). It is just a thread to discuss and share Hoxha-related things. It can even be from people critical of Hoxha.

>>2596500
Interesting. First time I see someone transitioning from Hoxhaism to Leftcom.
Indeed, it is easier to find comfort in Never-Existing-Socialism than to face the realities of Actually-Existing-Socialism.

>>2596503
AES is the only mode of production that be abolished by the whims of one man… it is also indispensable from what came before/after it

>>2596516
All modes of production are indispensable from what came before.

>>2596502
>It is just a thread to discuss and share Hoxha-related things.
He was a retard who treated scientific marxism like a religion.

>>2596503
>I see someone transitioning from Hoxhaism to Leftcom.
Not surprised at all.

>>2597799
Please elaborate.

>>2597801
Please substantiate.

>>2596490
he proved that you can indeed,destroy religion by force,and that all the projection about how it wouldn't work doesn't stand up to reality.

>>2598573
Albania is an Islamist shithole, they literally did Jihad in the 90s

Nice cope but Marx and Lenin vindicated as always

>>2598789
[Citation needed]

First time I heard about Hoxha I thought he was kinda crazy but a lot of his actions made sense when you learn the context. Albania was a little piece of land that was endlessly colonized or vassalized by some great power like the Roman empire to Ottoman Empire, Italy, etc. He contributed to securing Albania's independence in WW2 and during the break with Tito. After the Sino-Soviet split, he sided with China up until late Mao and apparently Albania played a big role in China's entrance into the United Nations. By the end he felt betrayed by everyone with China's market liberalization and the rise of Gorbachev. All he wanted ultimately was to make sure no foreign army ever set foot on Albania again. Looking at NATO in Yugoslavia, I'd say he was pretty correct about preparing for outside hostility.

>>2599194
Based.
I think a state like Gaza has to model itself after Hoxha's Albania for any chance of survival. Instead of the ritualistic sacrifice of women and children each Intifida causes.

Anyone who makes gonzalo cultists seethe, dengoids mad, and modern day bukharinists (titoists) pissed have my eternal respect

>>2597809
Hoxha and his followers represent the complete opposite of scientific Marxism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogmatic_theology

>>2599220
completely different cotexts even in its worse situations albania was never as brutally sieged as gaza

>>2600020
Albania was completely occupied by Italy. But yes different contexts.

>>2599822
"wikipedia.org" is a strange way of embedding marxist theory

>>2598789
That was Kosovo, Hoxha destroyed religion. Cope.

>>2600759
>it was Kosovo bro even doe 80% of jihadis were foreigners and many Albanian nationals

>>2600771
well Kosovo is the seat of the albanian mafia currently,it's always been the place where Albanians criminals live,it's not a real country,but what could he do about it ? invade the place and get raped by NATO ?

>>2600759
UÇK was nationalist and Kosovo's not much more than a classic EU aspirant Eastern Euro shithole. Regardless, the difference between the two shows the superiority of Hoxha's model of socialism.
>>2600771
Still absolutely no sources provided.

>>2600771
>conveniently ignores them being kosovar albanians
Hoxha did NOTHING wrong, and it was Tito's fault for not keeping them in rein and expecting his successors to not have a unifying force, Hoxha had a vision, Tito didn't, and the Kosovar Albanians messed it all up because of the Serbs.

Religion cannot end without ending its social roots. Hoxha lost.

Seethe snd cope

>>2601157
t. Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi

>>2601161
That's a guy who came out from a brutal secular regime were Islamists were persecuted as well lol

>>2601157
Proof? Source? Evidence? Hoxha won.
>>2601166
>a brutal secular regime were Islamists were persecuted as well lol
Yes but, ISIS and Al Qaeda were funded in part by Amerikkka, you fucking idiot. It wasn't "organic", America sent money over to it in order to hinder communist movements from development.

>>2601185
Amerikkka successed considering cucks like you support islamists now (axis of resistance was literally put in power by the US administration in Iraq xD)

>>2601190
I never supported Islamists though? Hoxha was always against religion, Amerikkkuck. I don't support anything that is useless to the movement at large. You are scum and a traitor diverting attention away from the revolution.

>>2601202
He supported the Khomeini in the 80s but he was probably suffering dementia at the time

I like how gun rights were protected under Hoxha ill say that

Kosovo should be nuked

>>2601190
>>2601157
>>2598789
>>2600771
>>2601166

Denounce the zionist entity and judaism.

Reminder that Socialist Albania stood longer than the first rabid market socialist dogs of the "Communist Party" of Yugoslavia.

WE WOULD NOT BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY IF THE COMMUNIST MOVEMENT SIDED WITH THE SINO-ALBANIAN-CHE-"PAPER TIGER" SIDE OF TACTICS. CUBA WOULD'VE HAD STRATEGICALLY NECESSARY SITES OF U$ NUKED AT THE HEIGHT OF OUR GEOSTRATEGIC POSITIONING INTERNATIONALLY IN THE 50s. BY ALLOWING FOR SOCIALIST INTERNATIONALISM RATHER THAN SOCIAL-IMPERIALIST MARKET COMPETITION TO DIVIDE US, THE SAME PEOPLE-TO-PEOPLE COOPERATION THAT DEVELOPED CHINESE NUKES WOULD REBOUND VIA SYSTEMS CYBERNETICS TO ALLOCATE ENOUGH STATE RESOURCES, ACROSS THE EASTERN BLOC, FOR A SOCIALIST RESPONSE/PRE-EMPT OF THE ARPANET/INTERNET.

FUCK MARKET FETISHIST WRECKERS.

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>36 replies
>nothing actually discussed or linked except two wiki entries on dogmatism and religion
>arguing over islam and modern Albania (mainly people just skimming wikipedia)
>not even any criticisms that actually go into what Hoxha talked about or implemented just slogans that were shouted by radio free Europe back in the 80s

you faggots should consider roping

>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/imp_rev/toc.htm

>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/1978/yugoslavia/index.htm
>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/ebooks/reflections_on_china_volume_1.pdf

>>2631535
Isn't modern Albania under rule by a mafia lord

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>>2631650
same with the rest of the eastern bloc what's your point?

Why did albania collapse around the same time as the rest of the eastern bloc? Weren't they isolated and on their own for decades?

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>>2631743
Not Belarus, thoughbeit.

>>2631754
>the point of collapse of the soviet regimes)
privatisation (looting), massive scams, mafias, drugs, prostitution, millions dead?

>>2631746
Ramiz Alia ended up privatizing the economy akin to perestroika/opening up which just nuked their economy as they couldn't secure any investment from western corporations and western powers would not revoke the sanctions on Albania after those reforms were made this also ended up creating a massive black market which ended up empowering the mafia in the region (it wouldn't help that their version of shock therapy was planned by their mafia guys who essentially turned the economy into a Ponzi scheme)

>>2631743
Putin wasn't a mafia lord though

>>2631535
Enlighten us, Shok


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