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How about you read this translated article from the actual Nepali youth, who were situated at the centre of the movement? They sobrely analysed the situation they found themselves in and came to a nuanced and intelligent conclusion. Of course, they should have read this months ago, and they should have followed the social media of the Maoists engaged in the struggle who showed the revolutionary potential of the conflicted youth who needed people working within them in order to realise said revolutionary potential and avoid falling to the CIA reactionaries, but these people do not follow any real people and only these CIA/Mi6/FSB/MSS plants like HinKKKle, Greyzone etc., but they didn't so now they must be educated today.

https://redherald.org/2025/09/13/revolutionary-students-front-context-nepal-imperialist-plot-vs-revolutionary-potential/

The "leftists" who call everything CIA are not really communists because they do not see revolutionary potential in the people, but only dumb sheep who would be lead astray by any CIA agent. They do not understand there is great contradiction in any movement and in any body of people, and do not have it in them to work with these masses. These "leftists" are only communists in aesthetics, while in actuality they support maintaining colonies for their favourite imperial power. They are truly the worst of the worst. They are not identifying that the CIA is working in any uprising, but instead they are just angry that the opposing imperial block might be trying to steal away a colony from them, without seeing the genuine potential of the people stuck in the middle. These anti-communists need to be thrown away into the latrine.

>>2598195
Thank you for the article anon, I will read it. I could do without the posturing tho

>>2598195
>>2598231
Damn that was a big nothing burger. Was this supposed to be enlightening somehow S? Nothing new was brought to the table, a basic history summary and very little analysis. CIA meddling from the beginning was admitted to, just disregarded in favor of a vague platitude about trusting the people.

Man I really want to like Maoism, but this ain't it chief

>>2598261
I mean, what more can really be said? With popular uprisings like this nobody really knows what is happening on a broad scale, and only the people in the middle can have a hope of understanding its true nature, which these people were. I would link the social media of what was happening but by nature that is very transitory and it goes away. What I'm trying to say is the revolutionary student front has the best understanding of what was going on even if they can't really enlighten you.

>>2598274
My point is that this doesn't bring anything to the table that wasn't already understood from the get go. I would be much more interested in an analysis of how these movements are preempted by the imperialists, strategies on how to identify them and prevent that from happening. Instead I find mostly a moral indignation at "conspiratorial leftists" for pointing out the meddling. You went on a whole tirade about how "leftists" call everything CIA and then the authors of the article you posted admit CIA meddling is apparent, but there is no further analysis provided on why they are wrong for being concerned about that, rather more indignation that the government is supported too much or "the people" aren't trusted enough or something. I'm asking, how does this prove your point at all? How are the people shouting color revolution (coopted by imperialism) wrong?

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>>2598195
The article was bad. I agree with his statement in general:
>If the imperialists’ ‘meticulous design’ is really to be thwarted, then the main task should not be to support the Nepalese State, but to build a united revolutionary alternative power center in the interests of the workers-peasants-middle class in the ongoing battle against the Nepalese State.
But the rest of it was terrible, all the author had to contribute is
>Even if this ‘meticulous design’ is using the justified anger of the people, the struggle for social change must be fought through trusting the people and revolutionary communist politics.
And that's cope, that's not how you can fight a class struggle. Lenin didn't trust the people when they supported war or SRs, socialist construction was also not done by simply trusting the people in any country. Mao arguably leaned into this direction and that got Chinese people and communists into a pickle more than once.
I agree that of course there is a lot to learn from the people, but we already know the tired NED cliches about muh nepo babies and the tales of people's righteous anger at them. That's what they tried to pull in my country to conduct regime change. I "learned from the people" and it was not that deep, most of them clearly just did it because that's what the cool kids do or vaguely because nepo babies bad and government bad.
At the same time, screams of CIA meddling are mostly cope. Political change is notorious for being one of the most unpredictable things. People tend to not give credit to the autonomy and strength of local reactionary forces, which always do the heavy lifting 100% of the time. CIA or others may help out with money and expertise, but they are not locals, they can't do it for them. It's in some ways analogous to the dynamic USSR and communist parties in other countries used to have before WWII.
In other words, CIA is not an excuse for idiocy. Five eyes leftists are actually pretty good at not falling for this kind of stupid language, and they are right at the origin of it. They keep saying that it's CAPITAL and CAPITALISM. Not oligarchs or extractivism or nepotism or authoritarianism or any of that gaslighting liberal diarrhea that describes western countries even better than the ones they are mostly aimed against while conveniently avoiding the topic of private property.

>>2598331
>identify them and prevent that from happening.
unless you're in your country secret service (or one that has spy influence over the concerned country),you can't do shit about it.
or make a people's militia and be ready to beat the shit out of protestors who are useful idiots,which nobody in your group is ever going to want to do.

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Nepal, the vanguard of the international proletariat

When is China annexing this splinter of the Tibet Autonomous Region?

>>2598556
Fair enough, it is maybe a bit much to ask for

>>2598331
It's a clarification of the situation from the people on the ground, that is the point of it. As I said if you want to know the details you will have to be there.

CIA will always try things. That's their job, they infiltrate movements and make them work for the USA. But what I have to say is what does a colour revolution even mean? They're discounting the communists on the ground because they're afraid one imperial bloc will take over from the other that already has power in the colony.
>>2598580
Chauvinism. Anyway Nepal doesn't have anything to do with Tibet culturally.

>workers rise up NOW!
<ogey
>NOOO CIA CIA CIA THIS IS A BASED MVLTIPQLAR NATION STOP IT

>>2598629
Which imperial bloc has power in Nepal currently?

>>2598629
>Nepal doesn't have anything to do with Tibet culturally.
Wrong. Nepal was a tributary state to the Qing, the sovereign over Tibet.

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>>2598783
I just realized that don't think I've ever as much as smiled at an ultraleft meme.


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