I really dont know how you can claim that the donbass and luhansk are rightfully russian when all the russians living there and inside ukraine in the first place are just the descendants of settlers and colonists that arrived there during the russian empire.
>when all the russians living there and inside ukraine in the first place are just the descendants of settlers and colonists that arrived there during the russian empire.
so are the ukrainians
"ukkkraine" is rightful khazar and pecheneg clay
The USSR resolved all 'colonist' question. After the 70 years of the USSR, no one was a 'colonist' anywhere in the USSR anymore.
Your country deserves to burn, Ukronazi. The baltics, Poland and Finland are next. Fuck you and your whorish mothers.
>>2606246Ukraine belongs to the Proto-Indo-Europeans.
>>2606249I really dont understand why russians cant just accept that their empire is dead.
>>2606252I really dont understand why Baltoids, Polaks, F*nns and Khokhols cant just accept that Nazis lost.
>>2606252why can't westoids accept that their empires are dead and stop doing color revolutions to exploit the periphery
>>2606254>>2606255Why is it that the only defense mechanism ziggers have is to deflect when theyre made fun of
>>2606257No point in engaging with somebody who has no intention of doing so in good faith.
>>2606261Wdym by good faith?
Indigeneity is a spook.
>>2606302So then why does this board care about palestine?
>>2606307because they are exterminated by an imperialist power, you moron
>>2606311Hows that any different from ukraine?
>>2606250Ukraine belongs to Neanderthals you Sapiens nazi.
>>2606316Ukraine is the imperialist power exterminating an ethnic minority in this instance. Unfortunately for them the people they tried to kill now have the means of fighting back.
Hope this helps, dickhead.
>>2606321>Ukraine is the imperialist power exterminating an ethnic minority But they're just exterminating colonial settlers from their land
>>2606326you are a retard
>>2606328How? The russians living in ukraine are literally colonial settlers from imperial times.
>>2606332so are ukrainians
>>2606337ukrainians are literally descendants of settlers who settled in the 'borderlands' between russian, polish and ottoman lands as an alternative to serfdom
>>2606345So they were there first before russians
>>2606337ukroaches could string polish children on spikes in galicia and you would not give a shit, you'd be busier analysing taylor swift's subliminal message on her left asscheek
you are mega concerned about indegeneity only when russias are involved because it gives you an excuse to spit your russophobic venom
for there to be good in this world,
you must die and take as many of your family and friends with you
>>2606347>between russian , polish and ottoman lands<sO bEfOrE rUsSiA? Is it a requirement that all russophobes have to be retarded?
there is literally nothing in ukraine worth dying for, for either side.
allowing yourself to get memed into believing people should die for either state is asinine. starting the war was asinine, continuing the war is asinine, it doesn't matter what order you put events in or who you blame.
Yeah between not in them are russians so dumb?
>>2606353agree. we all should advocate for world peace or something like that.
>>2606347no stupid, they were russian settlers who eventually developed a separate identity through interacting with tatars, poles and lithuanians
ukraine was a revolving door for nomads from all over Eurasia for centuries before that and the question of indigineity is impossible to ascertain for that area
Ukraine should be a wildlife sanctuary, have no one live there, no Russians, no Azovites, no mercenaries, just give it all to the deer and the rabbits, they know better than to apply for NATO membership
>>2606326Settler colonialism is a social relationship, not just the existence of one nationality on land that was once inhabited by another. Ethnic Russians in Ukraine did not enjoy systematic advantages at the expense of Ukrainians, at least not to the point where Ukrainians were significantly worse off by virtue of their ethnicity. Any such relations were more or less abolished during the Soviet era.
>>2606345Crazy how such a cringe country can have such a based origin.
>>2606355you are genuinely retarded
>>2606377they got black soil there, the world's most fertile land
no fucking way it will be left to the rabbits and deer
Ukraine is the definition of a nonhistoric, reactionary people. It will not exist after total Russian victory.
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>>2606249russians are settlers eveywhere east of the urals and in central asia
>>2609456Learn how to read
>>2606249>The USSR resolved all 'colonist' question. After the 70 years of the USSR, no one was a 'colonist' anywhere in the USSR anymore.What did they do to resolve this? If it's the same people on the same land, they are by all means 'colonists', with the only difference being that they live under a different form of social organization, one which is still being imposed by the same people.
Of course, I don't believe in magical legitimacy of land. People live in a place or they don't, and authority either asserts itself, or it doesn't.
>>2606261Making a smartass meme very much is a response though. You might not think of it as such, but are indeed communicating a sentiment in a public forum. Shitposting is just as much a part of the dialectic as anything else.
>>2606353This. It's a worthless plot of land with zero real-world significance that nobody cared about until Russia attacked it. It's currently the puppet state of a capitalist power, and the people trying to claim it are another, smaller capitalist power. Both arguments either way are stupid; the belief that Ukraine has some kind of magical "right" to exist is idealism, the belief that Russia is the lesser of two evils is the same logic that American politicians use to uphold the status quo.
I know the internet has turned people retarded, so I feel now is a good time to remind everyone that you don't need to have an opinion on literally everything that happens. There's much more important things to spend your time and energy on then stupid fucking Ukraine.
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