Why was china such a shithole under mao?
Mao saw poverty as socialism. Mao was a utopian romantic socialist.
GDP more like MemeMemePee
Mao was a total retard who was basically just a shittier version of stalin that failed at everything he tried to do after unifying china.
Mao was a good military strategist but not good at running a country. A general problem with socialists honestly.
GDP is bourgeois nonsense.
socialism is when you export capital
>>2612656Mao was a country bumpkin
>>2612665>it's the west fault we didn't develop for 40 fucking years with full soviet support for at least 10-20 of thosethe URSS was above that in 1940
All of you got it wrong.
It's not that post-Mao did miracles and Mao was a moron.
The pic simply proves that the decolonised governments of Africa failed miserably.
China kept doing things right, Africa kept doing things wrong.
>>2612669Dengists need to spread bourgeois anti-Mao propaganda in order to make Deng look like a god.
>>2612657Is this the ultimate trvke?
>>2612657>outliberal the liberal MaoDamn
Old ass Mao married young woman.
Mao would be Epstein's chum today.
Post-Mao chinese leaders all had much, MUCH BETTER haircuts than Mao's turd-on-sides faggot ass haircut.
>>2612725It looked really cool though
>>2612722He probably would've been chill with Epstein
Mao is the greatest opportunist OF ALL TIME and I say this in a good way. I hope more third world countries had their own Mao who would make and break any bullshit just to move the country forward.
>>2612732The protracted peoples war was the greatest opportunist shit ever, Mao was legitimately impressive in how he conquered China
I know mao was instrumental in defeating the kuomintang but who actually wouldve been a good candidate to lead china after the civil war?
>>2612656>Muh GDPOpinion discarded
communism. once deng got rid of it and china became capitalist they began to develop
>>2613091Is there a better way to measure economic power? This is a real question by the way.
>>2613146Labubus consumed per hoe
I’m serious btw.
>>2613146Gdp is basically just a measure of the market price of things sold in an economy. You increase the price of something, you increase gdp even if actual production stagnates or even declines. That's why the US prefers gdp as a measure of market fitness, because it sells relatively few high cost items while its actual productive output has been declining for decades.
So it really depends on what you want to be measuring. Relative national wealth? Purchase power parity. Actual economic strength? Then real productive output. Economic sovereignty? Sovereign debt balance.
>>2613188>colonised and developed by the westdoood it's okay to be a china enjoyer and to want to defend them, but to insult our intelligence like that
>>2613192It is an uncontroversial fact that western colonialism was progressive in that it extirpated many countries from their backward modes of production hence increasing their economic throughput a thousandfold and bringing them closer to social revolution.
>>2613188You're not allowed to say that in China.
>>2613200entering man into history is itself a crime
>>2613188This is the dumbest take ever. It would’ve been like the Philippines
>>2613188India, South America and Africa aren't great places to live at, retard
>>2613200Explain this, /pol/monkey:
>>2613256 the exact same reason why you can't win simcity 2000 by pausing the game and issuing a high interest bond and setting all the taxes to 0% and drawing in all the zoning and infrastructure in advance and then unpausing the game and expecting it to instantly bloom into a profitable city.
>using gdp per capita for a socialist economy
If you genuinely think that China had lower living standards than most african countries during the 1980 than you are a fucking retard. Kill yourself
>>2613291and although china now produces gdp statistics to comply with western institutions like the wto, internally they still use the material production system. instead of estimating an aggregate of all the transactions in the economy, it estimates the number of final goods sold to consumers. the logic is that b2b saas only matters as an input to produce something else that people can actually consume
>>2612656Ultra retards care more about purity of socialism than economic development.
why was it so difficult for a country ravaged by the most destructive war in history (look up what the Japanese did in China if you don't believe me) to develop under a state of total international siege? China had to do everything themselves and overcome a completely backwards society. That there were bumps in the road is not surprising.
>communism is when you increase indexes that can only even exist in bourgeois countries
>>2612667>40 fucking years1953-1976=40?
>>2613558Maybe not isolate yourself from both west and USSR.
Many western chauvinists in this thread.
Actual "Dengists" correctly identify the Mao period, despite its excesses, as being instrumental for China's development. No actual principled supporter of the CPC let alone actual members of it today would dare repeat what you said about Mao because it makes no sense from their perspective.
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