Hi comrades, I know how to program and have created resource websites.
What would be a useful online resource?
There are already plenty of good ones, like marxists.org and annas-archive for /lit/, leftybooru for meme cataloguing, kolektiva.media/tankie.tube for video hosting, disroot and riseup for email and other services, but what is something else that would just make organisation, education and agitation more efficient for you?
Communist party, anarchist collective, or trade union recruitment service using a map. Like it shows public HQ's and local parties or orgs
>>2626198https://www.radical-guide.com/This comes to mind, seems focused on anarchism and I'm pretty sure there are outdated/inaccurate entries. That's one of the big problems, maintaining such a list is tough without having local connections. Plenty of groups have horrendous social media presence so it's hard to tell if they even still exist or not.
If you want my honest answer, you'd be best served first linking up with local organizing in workplaces and housing. From there, see what they actually need that your skills can fulfill, while being careful to avoid commandist errors. Don't just take a cursory glance over a few days, weeks, or even months and declare what they need. Go into this with the understanding that they might not need any programming or website resources in the end, and you may be the one who learns from them. Only when you link up in a genuine, humble way will you make anything worthwhile, digital or otherwise.
>>2626198Great idea, that sounds like a great way to simplify and privately centralize surveillance of left groups! Feds will love it, I'm sure.
trade union, tenent unions, mutual aid groups, worker-owned cooperatives, reading groups, political parties, community gardens, and militias need to coordinate but instead they shit on each other and insist that each others activities do not constitute TRVE PRAXIS even though anything is better than nothing, and anything + coordination is WAY better than nothing.
>>2626195I've been working on a dual client and server program with web gui, the goal of which is to help organize notes on books and things you read and archive everything in a way that's extremely findable. Each book is represented by a page with some info and your notes etc. attached, and each page can have many tags, which are hierarchically organized and form a tree structure for browsing. So for any given topic you can see what writings there are on it, a little summary, and your (or as a server, also other people's) notes and quotations.
I'm a bad programmer though and work full time so it's slow going. If you want to take this idea and make your own version I'm sure it'd be easy for someone with experience. It's basically just a js front end and a database.
What about a leftist forum like leftypol using xenforo..?
It would be easy to create and would make blogging better, also specfic accounts would exist unlike an imageboard.
>>2627283>>>/marx/ You might also have heard about revleft.
>>2626198Why not use something like this to organize random productive labour, instead of just party jerkoffs?
Could be the basis of classless and productive labour.
>>2626195>I know how to program and have created resource websites.It's not 1995 anymore, bruh. My grandmother can make resource websites using a CMS, at least document-dump ones like marxists.org that don't require much on the backend :)
My suggestion would be to create some kind of name-and-shame website for corporations, but the key is to do it in a sneaky way such that leftists think you're a leftist, idpol radlibs think you're an idpol radlib, and chuds think you're a chud. Don't make the mistake of preaching to the leftist choir, or the site would be doomed to irrelevance.
>>2627286what does skrode mode do?
>>2626195another idea: a centralized digital currency to facilitate mutual aid that's really mutual. The idea is that you and another person can make a deal where one of you does some labor for another. The laborer is awarded one currency for each unit (lets say one hour) of labor. They can then spend this currency to contract labor from others. Allow for individuals to pay in with an amount of money corresponding to an hour of work at their job (show paystubs for proof), or otherwise minimum wage, and receive one currency for each hour of their wages. Money put in like this creates a common fund which can be pulled out of by paying/giving up your digital currency. Have a craigslist-like front end for advertising skills and wanted labor, as well as an escrow system to confirm labor and how long it actually took, etc. The platform and database owner could create their own requests that pay out in digital currency. E.g. you could contract a piece of propaganda art, that the user spends a certain amount of time reading Marx (proved via test), to show up to a meetup, and so on. This wouldn't be inflationary because of the nature of the system. It's essentially labor vouchers and you're the issuer :) doesn't it sound fun?
>>2627286>>2628415Nevermind I read the post and I see what skrode was meant to be. It's still unfinished right? His dream is my dream though - a program that makes connections for you with a much greater working memory than a human has. I've seen so many attempts at similar things and they all fall short. Most focus on non-hierarchical association for some reason, creating ugly many-many associations that aren't helpful at all. The most important part is that each node of information is tagged with all the topics it's part of, and that these topics are a separate type of concept from the nodes and are readily human navigable. A dual system of tree-formatted tags and their apparent "children" the information nodes is necessary and no one ever gets this right :( i hope loper guy makes skrode and it's everything i wish for
>>2626195Tbh its easy to create websites, but it's hard to get it popular or to market it
>>2626198Agreed this would be fucking awesome, with the requirements too, please cover Asia
An IRL request/postcard/letter/book package sending site like postcrossing but cooler? But more anon and reputation based, that would be sick
>>2627722There are too many of these
why wouldnt you skip the capitalist value system, and make it pure voluntary? why are you trying to keep capitalism, this would literally be communist production. Make it public events not individual contracts etc.
>>2628560This would be sick
List of rallies/communist events worldwide
Commie dating app
>>2628576would be cool unless it gets hacked
would be really cool though
>>2627360You just reinvented the gig economy. What innovation.
>do something
No kys activist voluntarist
>>2628625my favorite anon as always
>>2628625Are you retarded? gig economy, is without commodity value production?
Productive labour organized without wage labour, profit incentive, money, etc = gig economy?
Some of you really cant even imagine a world beyond commodity production.
>>2628565Yes, but go beyond rallies and events, incorporate productive labour events too. Can easily imagine collective labour to produce something like soup kitchens, or environmental cleanups etc, I have seen these on facebook already. If the model has potential, easily expand it towards more complex productive spheres.
>>2628685You mean like a platform for distributing surplus from people's actual jobs (sort of like food banks) or etsy with labor vouchers?
>>2628707minus labour vouchers, pure collective organization and production. Like a protest /birthday party group or event on facebook, but geared towards productive spheres.
In the beginning yes, if doing soup kitchens you would be using surplus from peoples jobs, as we dont have the means of production collectivised yet.
But if the model proved effective, you could start to incorporate different spheres of production, producing food with gardens etc.
How to acquire, resources etc into the collective management of those engaged with the platform, is a big question. But initially you could do it within the legal confines of capitalism, group purchasing. But at a certain point, other strategies will have to be utilised, seizure etc.
>>2627289Yeah but that one sucks and is old. Im thinking of xenforo because it has modern UI
>>2628560It's not capitalist - there's no capital, no money even. Like I said it's basically labor vouchers, it's all non-fungible. The goal in my mind is to take the popularity of mutual aid initiatives and make it actually mutual. This
is essentially volunteering because you get nothing guaranteed back from giving your time.
>>2628738"Geared towards productive spheres" and just volunteer organization… so you want people to do work for free? Why tho? Like what's the hook, and who owns the surplus? And where does the startup capital or means of production come from? If the group that labors disposes of the product, then it's a co-op. If the group that labors doesn't, it's just charity volunteer work which already exists in abundance.
>>2629881Labour voucher still are determined by exchange value. Imprinting products with the socially necessary labour required in production as value. This is still capital.
>work for freeIt is not working for free, means of production and produce of them would be under control of the platform and associated labourers, who organize labour and distrubution in transparent public communication.
The hook is that products can be produced and distributed without the mediation of exchange value, ie production for use, direct labour organization, production and distribution. It is not working for free, you are still working in order to recieve and command use of surplus of production, just without the mediator of the market.
You are still thinking entirely within the realm of commodity production and capital. It would by no means be a co-op or charity work. It appears volunarist, but only to retards, who don't understand impulse and incentives exist outside of market relations.
>where does start up capital or means of production come from?That is a good question, but is feasible within capital to purchase and put them into the collective, at least initially, or to start with small things that don't require heavy initial capital investment. Of course at a certain point you will need to go to more extreme measures. This is the reality in any situation of trying to produce new economic relations of production in a world already completely dominated by capital. We cant just take land and put it into the direct control of the platform/collective of classless producers, as all the land is of course protected by the right of private property. Until you have your own defense apparatus capable of taking on this right.
mutual aid site please
make a communist kiwifarms
>>2630985this would be based because we could make retarded neocons lolcow threads
>>2630985We did, it's called /itg/
>>2630631>>2630649Willing to work on a project for this, but how do we do it
>>2630649Mods, ban this one
>>2632079For what possible reason would this be bannable? You are so afraid of actual productive organization, you want to silence any talk of anything beyond mindless slop scrolling and discussion?
>>2631129>/itg/Can you tell me more?
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