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Genuinely what is the difference between the two? Both insist that the people of a nation are inherently evil because of a genocide their ancestors committed before they were even born. Both are highly liberal, postmodernist, and anti-communist. For example, in one of the most popular works of “decolonial” theory of the land back movement, “For America to Live, Europe Must Die” (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/russell-means-for-america-to-live-europe-must-die), the author spends more time complaining about state socialist countries like Vietnam and China because they set up Western style governments and industrial economies that damage the environment. This ignores the obvious fact without a modern industrial base and centralized state you’re not gonna be able to beat another centralized industrialized state like America, and in reality abandoning any structure able to stand up to the American war machine means you have no plan for revolution. Also, the fact is you’re not gonna have the numbers for a successful revolution without getting at least some people from the majority ethnic group on your side, imagine if the Bolsheviks or CCP only tried organizing the most oppressed ethnic groups in Russia or China while saying that all European Russian/Han Chinese people were inherently evil. They wouldn’t have gotten very far.

Landback is anti-communist sentimentalist grifting.
Yes to Nationalisation, No to Bantustanisation.

Landback is based, actually.

Landbackn is politically correct nazism
Land should belong to the workers

The anti-german movement is a bastardization of New Left anti-Japanism and its even more extreme sibling anti-Japaneseism of the Ainu Revolution Theory, which posits that due to the integration of Bushido into Japanese society, the identity of Japan itself is incompatible with peace. Land Back in the West is mostly vibes based today but it used to be about returning to native stewardship practices of the land to restore lands raped by colonialism. It was fundamentally a neutral concept.

>>2628637
yeah there’s a bunch of land owned by the government or rich people that could be given to the natives so they have enough resources to actually support themselves which would be fine, but the people who get amplified by corporate and mainstream media are the “traditionalists” (more often grifters) who just say the most ridiculous things possible like Newtonian physics being fake and we should go back to using stone tools

>>2628646
They will trade and do capitalism and will get proletarianized.

>>2628650
or become petty bourgeois, like what happened with Evo’s coalition in Bolivia

>>2628657
This has happened on every sort of landback movement, the creation of ejido in México after the revolution has resulted in the creation of a new petty bourg class.

>>2628602
Israel is endgame Sakaism, yes. Nativism in the 20th wrapped itself under as socialist aesthetic. In the 19th century it didn't, which is the time when Zionism emerged. And even then there were leftoid Zionist currents.

morons ITT will describe israel as landback, even though 99% of israelis have no ancestry in the levant

>>2628679
What percentage of genetic ancestry is needed for landback movements to be "real"?

Nevermind, just face the wall right there.

>>2628602
I promise nothing worthwhile will come of this thread after it's gotten a few hundred replies and (you) read it.

>>2628684

Not genetic, but historic. Israelis have no historic ties to the levant. There is 0 similarity to landback in the Americas and the zionist project.

>>2628679
>>2628684
The Palestinian relationship with olive trees is a better example of the relevance of land back in that region. Those trees represent many families' literal roots to the land, so every time Israelis come through they ripped them up and salt the Earth. Once they are gone the Palestinians plant them again. The Levant will be uninhabitable for Israelis too if they continue their policies. You can read stories about families fleeing with their trees during the Nakba.

Land Back = Antideutsche = Antijapaneseism
All must be thoroughly opposed.

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>>2628679
>Implying "ancestry" justifies "landback"

>>2628602
Yet another american leftists are secretly liberals thread

>>2628602
Antideutsche are German chauvinists in denial.
They believe that Germans are united in their collective "guilt" for doing the Holocaust and that the German people are morally superior because of said "guilt".
I don't know if the same can be said about the Landback movement.

>>2628679
>le ancestry
you are presuming it would be justified if le ancestry was there, a fact zionists exploit in order to defeat your shitty argument, the better response is that it is a state driven by an ideology that at the very least requires hypermilitarism and mass expulsion, leading up to genocide if they fight back too much

>>2628689
how would you even define "historic"? continuous population presence? if that's interrupted, how far does that go back?

>>2628673
>Israel is endgame Sakaism, yes.
Not really, more like the Khmer Rouge.
>>2628795
>you are presuming it would be justified if le ancestry was there, a fact zionists exploit in order to defeat your shitty argument, the better response is that it is a state driven by an ideology that at the very least requires hypermilitarism and mass expulsion, leading up to genocide if they fight back too much
This. Really, it doesn't matter if today's Jews actually did descend from the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel and Judah; they still don't have the right to force Palestinians out of their farms and houses at gunpoint to build American-style suburbs.


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