>>2633793another inter-imperialist war yaayy
burger fascist state vs actual monarchy fighting for a fucking wasteland only to use it as a colonial military checkpoint
the good only thing that could happen is that nato ceases to exist after this conflict (unless they manage to kick the US out somehow), which wouldn't stop france or the uk to deploy forces into ukraine as they just signed to do it anyways
A poll in 2016 showed that there was a clear majority (64%) for full independence among the Greenlandic people.[25]
A 2017 poll showed that 78% of the population would oppose independence if it implied a lower standard of living.[38]
A 2019 poll showed that 67.8% of Greenlanders support independence from Denmark sometime in the next two decades.[39]
A 2025 poll showed that a majority 84% of Greenlanders would support independence from Denmark, with 9% opposing. 61% opposed independence if it meant a lower standard of living, with 39% in favour. When asked in a binary choice between the USA and Denmark, 85% preferred to be part of Denmark with only 6% preferring the USA. [40]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_independence>European leaders, including in France and Germany, have announced they are working on a plan in the event the United States follows through on its threat to take over Greenland as tensions soar.
Europe's final warning xD
>>2633793Lets hope the orange retard crashes the alliance with no survivors in order to have a minor victory in Greenland.
>>2633793INVADE GREENLAND AND DESTROY NATO.
MY LIFE IS YOURS IL DRUMPFCE.
>do one (1) speshul tacticool military operation successfully
>decide to start shit with the entire world
Why are burgers like this???
>Trump does more to harm NATO than Russia or China
top heh
>>2634036
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models
>>2634032>The first ice-free day in the Arctic Ocean could occur before 2030<other models are suggesting it will happen before 2030grim
Siege of Melos.
balkanize NATO
What are the odds that Europe starts getting rid of US military bases, and if so how would Trump respond?
manifesting the US willfully becoming a pariah state through sheer hubris
>>2634216inshallah, brother
>>2634030I trust in Comrade Nationbuilder!
is this a serious question? of course it's a nothingburger
>>2633988>another inter-imperialist war yaayyWRONGThis is intra-imperialist, not -inter. Words matter.
>>2634321Exactly Euro 'imperialism' is a subset of American imperialism.
>>2634298basically its what happens when the artic ocean becomes virtually ice-free. When that happens climate change will accelerate
I don't think the yanks are dumb enough to tear up NATO. Not even the Trump admin. It's all distraction and hype, nothing else.
>>2634006All of the shit feels like porky is just robbing everything because they realize we are beyond fucked, I'll become a refugee because of my region becoming inhabitable in a decade or 2.
No world is possible with any of these shitbags alive, a luxurious communist world is probably impossible but at least i want revenge and blood
>>2634335>communist world is probably impossible but at least i want revenge and bloodcomrade this is an excellent time for the communist world. The situation is in utter chaos, now its time for us to exploit it. THe masses will be mad, the bread and circus will be gone.
>>2634374oh no. what i meant was that it's ridiculous that NATO/Denmark would fight back if Trump decides to take Greenland. they'll protest of course, but ultimately yield because the USA military is unrivaled. they certainly can't rival it.
>>2633988>actual monarchydo liberals really?
>>2634378military action is definitely unlikely but it would be seen as an unprovoked act of aggression against the EU, and while Europe has effectively been little more than a junior partner for US imperialism for the last 80 years, it's quite a different matter to throw all diplomacy out the window and impose US primacy over the rest of the first world. if the US takes Greenland it will have succeeded in being so loathed by the entire world that nothing short of overthrowing the current regime would be able to redeem its pariah status, and while the US may have the most expensive military in the world, it can't overextend itself like this without there being compounding consequences domestically and internationally.
I'm betting on this being a somethingburger whenever it happens but it's hard to say how effectively the US will be able to turn the entirety of EU into a Vichy France situation.
>>2633793No, euros will swallow it like they always do because they are daddy's good boys. You have to understand the extent of obedience that America commands in its vassals. Japan killed all economic growth in their country when they were ordered to when they were supposedly the second economy in the world and then kept sliding into irrelevance for 50 years just because America told them to. This applies to euros too but euros only got into the no growth zone by 2008.
>>2634482like it or not the fact that there is a widely hated vulgar loudmouth on the TV saying he's gonna take EU territory by force changes the rules of the game. it's true from a materialist analysis that NATO states have been little more than vassals for US imperialism since the end of WWII and the shift in geopolitics that it started, but America's allies being cucks for US imperialism who at best got to share in some of the spoils of the conquest was done over a period of many years, in an environment where information spread more slowly and in a controlled manner, and it all happened relatively quietly.
it will probably be a nothingburger if Denmark capitulates and sells Greenland but if the US does military action against its own allies it will actually be kind of a big fucking deal.
>>2634490>Denmark capitulates and sells GreenlandThis has a 100% chance of happening if they get serious enough about it. The only way America does it militarily is because they decided to for fun.
>>2634423>it's quite a different matter to throw all diplomacy out the window and impose US primacy over the rest of the first world.The diplomacy was always fake and never mattered since it occupied Europe in WW2 and bankrolled their economy with the Marshall Plan.
>redeem its pariah statusOnce Trump passes the torch they will pretend it's a new country and accept anything.
>US will be able to turn the entirety of EU into a Vichy France situationIt already is a Vichy France. De Gaulle was their puppet from the start, Germany/Italy has been under their direct control since WW2 and they got the eastern block after USSR dissolution.
>>2634493I also expect this is the most likely outcome but I would also not underestimate the arrogance of the current administration. wars have been fought by the US for decades now largely on the whims of politicians who have no idea what they're doing and it's why we keep getting involved in foreverwar quagmires, and the people who are calling the shots right now are fascist lunatics, who are known for making extremely aggressive plays at expanding territory that result in it overextending itself.
>>2634508this is black and white ultra thinking. there is a very clear difference between one-sided, but still net-positive for Europe, inter-imperialist collaboration and the US deciding it is not only going to be the one who gets the lion's share of the spoils but also gets to do whatever it wants to its allies. but again, it really depends on whether or not Trump art of the deal's his way into buying Greenland or if Denmark refuses to sell. if they sell, then nothing will happen, but I don't think that's necessarily a foregone conclusion.
>>2634512>this is black and white ultra thinking."There is actually zero difference between X and Y" is a very popular way to come off as smart and insightful on leftypol.org
>>2634006And the US is gonna 100% ban scientific endeavor in Greenland. Paired with the shutdown and privatisation of climate satellites, climate data will be hidden from the public.
>>2634523yeah this is gonna end badly. You cant just pretend the problem doesnt exist. Eventually reality will say hello
>>2634535Guess who is trying to take the land that is gaining value with global warming. Reality won't ever say hello to these people because they already take all steps necessary to insulate themselves from the consequences of their actions.
>>2634523Critical support to the scientific colonisation of mongoloid Greenland by the Scientific Aryan Danes
>>2634512>there is a very clear difference between one-sided, but still net-positive for Europe, inter-imperialist collaboration and the US deciding it is not only going to be the one who gets the lion's share of the spoils but also gets to do whatever it wants to its allies. This is like saying a gang is fundamentally different if a mob boss gives some bonuses to his crew instead of just killing them if they disobey. It still the same criminal gang either way. Yeah crony Europe getting a bonus welfare state was nice for while but times are tough and boss America is cutting back. EU might complain a bit but fundamentally wont do anything.
>>2634010>actually it's privilege to feel bad about people sufferingthis is one of the most headass tweets I have ever seen
>>2634539Reality will matter because all their living standards is based on the current globalized world. once that gets ruined by the climate change chaos, their living standards, treats and etc will go down the drain too.
Also theres the worry about guards. Theres nothing really stopping the guards from overthrowing the rich so to steal their shit. one has guns and the others dont. What reason would they have to not steal the rich persons shit in the chaotic and probably lawless world of the future?
>>2634216waiter, waiter! more dead proletarians please!!
>>2634548>"feeling bad" is when you make the center of attentionilliteracy prevails
Is there an actual fucking invasion??? I've tuned out of the news????????
Sales of Greenland and Venezuelan flags up 1264%.
>>2634382I don't think even TFR had a path for Greenland.
>>2635041ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT TROOPS ON THE GROUND?? MY FRIEND IS IN THE MILITARY
All of Denmark’s rich are invested in American stocks, they will not defend Greenland nor will they break with NATO or invoke article 5
>>2635048Isn't this violating NATO
What is the point of getting Greenland
They could just purchase it
TACO
>>2635055that'd be hilarious if the USA becomes a monarchy
>>2635058It would be more honest
>>2635055She looks a bit too old for him
>>2635055This man looks like Patrick Bateman
>>2635070She looks a bit too ugly too
>>2635070>>2635073Wait, Barron's older than her. She was born in 2007 and he was born in 2006.
>>2635073All euro royalty are inbred
>>2635071Barron looks like he's actually fit to run for office. Man has it in him.
>>2635136Nothing ever happens
>>2635136>burgerpunk caesarwe should be so lucky, if trump was caesar we would love him. he would actually be removing power from corrupt oligarchs and doing popular reform. we'd probably be very vexed by a modern caesar eventually though as he would naively try to think he can make these changes keeping the oligarchs defeated but othewise in place, which is what got his ass killed.
Sulla is the ancient republican right wing oligarch dictator
>>2635055Its crazy enough to work. Peace in the imperial core for our lifetime.
>>2635236Honestly the closest we had to Caesar was Kennedy
>>2635329No, that would be Lincoln.
>>2634006I got the chance to ask a noaa meteorologist about a blue ocean event and he said other tipping points are more important and that it wont change much at first
>>2635205nothing GOOD ever happens*
With this whole climate change thing I was wondering… Will Chile be fine or will I be a refugee?
>>2635496The European bourgeoisie and libs will forget all of it and forgive America when Democrats have their next electoral victory
>>2635731america will not change, europe will change after every election there is won by the far right nationalist parties who are 100% aligned with trumps vision of the world
>>2635746The fascists in europe are fake, they won’t even divest from atlanticism
>>2635749>they won’t even divest from atlanticismwho says they need to when the right wing parties take over europe? they'll be good little slaves that will end up giving greenland to trump for free
>>2635749No, they aren't. All fascists always sell out their country to global capital. You should know this by now, /pol/.
not happening
Ziggers turning into ultra anti-campists when US gors to War with the EU lmao
>>2637021Ziggers are actually siding with the US now on the question of Europe because they want factured nations being vassals of the United States instead of an independent pole, so they follow the line of the heritage foundation, Trump, Musk etc. It's because they think it will somehow benefit Russia (gross miscalculations seem to be typical of great Russian chauvinists)
>>2637025Lmao the EU IS already a vassal of the USA. If anything, ziggers are cheering on aggression on Europe by the USA to break this vassal relationship. Although I am not confident. The Euros will take it in the ass and thank the USA for it. Their Russophobia is too strong, they'd rather be pro-USA cucks for ever.
>>2637027>blahblahblah I love the AFD and Elon MuskOK nazi
>>2637025Euroboo chagos wants "national liberation" in Europe from "US imperialism".
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/05/trump-must-give-up-fantasies-about-annexation-says-greenland-pm<US attack on Greenland would mean end of Nato, says Danish PMJDPON Don strikes again
in all seriousness, this situation is messed up
>>2637392>this situation is messed upthe situation is excellent
>>2637392they're calling you a pussy donald!!!!! are you gonna take that shit from a bunch of rotten-fish-eating ice apes??? NUKE THEM
>>2637392trump is the first maoist president of the united states and he's gonna rule till 2030
>>2640066I'm so fucking tired of this shitlib narrative about how the US is somehow aligned with Russia in any way whatsoever when the US govt has literally published materials you can read that aren't even that fucking long explaining exactly what their geopolitical strategy is, why they want to take Greenland, why the aim is to
encircle Russia and China because they are the only serious threats to American global hegemony. these psychos want to literally create the NWO but even people whose literal jobs are to report on stuff like this fall back on the most lazy and literally delusional nonsense about le hecking end of democracy
>>2640450reminder that a blue ocean event is happening this year
>>2637392>this situation is messed up<The end of NATO and a serious Atlantic splitThis is the feeling that the Capitalist bloc felt with the Sino-Soviet split
>>2640455well yeah, with all those shipping lanes opening up north, suddenly seizing greenland makes sense
fuck the nazi danes
>>2640586we are living in interesting times. The happenings will happen
>>2640587Keep trying, /pol/, you will never get there.
>>2640600i wont simp for racist danes, sorry
>>2640437she muts be liberated from danish imperialism by comrade Trump, pesky natives don't know whats bet for them
https://www.firstpost.com/world/trump-asked-us-special-forces-to-plan-greenland-invasion-faces-resistance-from-military-generals-report-13967597.htmlTrump asked US special forces to plan Greenland invasion, faces resistance from military generals: Report<Trump has reportedly asked special forces to prepare contingency plans for a possible invasion of Greenland, a move that has faced resistance from senior US military officials over legal and political concerns.
>US President Donald Trump has reportedly asked senior special forces commanders to begin preparing contingency plans for a possible invasion of Greenland, the Daily Mail reported on Sunday. The proposal has triggered strong resistance within the US military, with senior officials questioning both its legality and political feasibility.
>According to the report, Trump directed the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) to draft an invasion plan. However, the Joint Chiefs of Staff have pushed back, arguing that any such operation would be unlawful and lack congressional approval.US generals push back
<“The generals think Trump’s Greenland plan is crazy and illegal,” a diplomatic source told the Mail. “They are trying to deflect him with other major military operations. They say it’s like dealing with a five-year-old.”
>Sources said senior military officials have attempted to divert Trump’s attention by proposing less controversial actions, including intercepting Russian “ghost ships” — a covert fleet used by Moscow to evade Western sanctions — or even suggesting a strike on Iran.Hawks in Trump’s inner circle
>The report said hardline figures within Trump’s inner circle, particularly policy hawks led by adviser Stephen Miller, have grown more assertive. Emboldened by what they view as the successful operation to capture Venezuela’s leader Nicolas Maduro, they are now pushing for swift action to secure Greenland before Russia or China expands its influence in the Arctic.Domestic political calculations
>Trump’s renewed focus on Greenland is also believed to be driven by domestic political considerations. With mid-term elections approaching later this year, there are concerns that he may seek a dramatic foreign policy move to divert attention from economic pressures and the risk of Republicans losing control of Congress, the report said, citing British diplomatic sources.Risk of Nato crisis
>Such a move could place Trump on a direct collision course with European leaders and trigger a major crisis within the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato), potentially pushing the alliance to breaking point.
>Diplomatic officials have reportedly conducted internal war-gaming exercises examining an “escalatory scenario” in which Trump could use military force or sustained political pressure to weaken Greenland’s ties with Denmark. A classified diplomatic cable reportedly outlines a worst-case outcome that could result in “the destruction of Nato from the inside”.
<“Some European officials suspect this is the real aim of the hardline MAGA faction around Trump,” the report said. “Since Congress would not allow Trump to exit Nato, occupying Greenland could force Europeans to abandon the alliance.” >>2634542>This is like saying a gang is fundamentally different if a mob boss gives some bonuses to his crew instead of just killing them if they disobey.That is a pretty big difference actually since a gang boss that earns the respect and support of his crew is going to have a much better chance of keeping it together and building a successful criminal enterprise than one who behaves like a cartoon villain. If the US goes ahead with forced annexation of Greenland it would fundamentally change the balance of power and could dissolve the transatlantic alliance. People need to understand the difference between hegemony and naked force, because it does matter for the strength and structural integrity of a geopolitical coalition and thus world history.
>>2635028>waiter, waiter! more dead proletarians please!!iron felix told me that is the only way to get the proletariat to do something so
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