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>Almost 40% of Australian teenage boys support “right-wing violent extremism” and one-third support “White supremacist violent extremism”, new University of Melbourne research shows.
>Lead researcher Dr Sara Meger, a senior lecturer in international relations in the School of Social and Political Sciences, surveyed 1,100 boys and girls aged 13 to 17, and 2,300 adult men and women, including 14 who claimed to be “non-binary”, The Advertiser reported.
>Respondents were asked if they agreed or disagreed with a range of statements, including “society demonises Whiteness today, so violent resistance is the only way for White people to have a fair chance in the world”, to determine whether they supported different types of so-called violent extremism.
>A quarter of boys supported every form of violent extremism identified in the survey, 39% supported “right-wing” types, followed by “White supremacist” on 29.7%, “anti-feminist” on 28.6%, “left-wing” on 28.5%, “incel” on 25.5%, “religious-based” on 21.1%.
>For girls, 17% supported all forms of violent extremism listed, including 30.4% for right-wing, 21.6% for left-wing, 21.1% for anti-feminist, 19.3% for White supremacist, 17.5% for incel, and 13.9% for religious-based.
>The research found that almost 24% of the 661 teenage boys surveyed exhibited radicalising intent, 18% sympathised with radical violence, and 10.4% harboured violent intent.
>36.3% agreed with “misogynistic attitudes”, 40.5% mistrusted women, 29% minimised violence against women, 20.7% excused the behaviour of those who use violence against women, and 20% disagreed with the concept of “affirmative consent”.
https://www.noticer.news/australian-teenage-boys-right-wing-research/

Okay

I wonder what percentage of them are actually "white"?

They know what’s in their best interest, this is what class consciousness looks like in Euros and Euro settlers

This is good. 50,1% of them (men and women) will engage in "left-wing extremism" while only 39% (chudettes will tradLARP and not ruin with blood their precious white Devine feminine hands) of them will engage in "right-wing extremism"

>>2635396
I don't think this is real but its possible considering the amount of fascist grooming on the internet

>>2635438
It's very possible. Actual blackpill.

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>surveys say
idgaf

>>2635396
>Source is "the Noticer"

>>2635497
looks like nobody noticed until you pointed it out

>>2635505
Most probably didnt even finish reading the op and didnt read the site link.

>>2635497
Is he laughin or crying or expressing some unique jewish emotion unique to their culture?

They're 13 to 17, the moment they have a taste of adult life their material conditions will kick in and make them leftist.

>>2635563
Or maybe they become more antisemitic and """anti"""(((capitalist)))


>https://www.noticer.news
Literally a neo-nazi propaganda site.

>>2635438
>>2635469
Unfortunately I think it's quite real, Australia is a fertile ground for this type of nonsense, for one thing it's a settler society with an albeit weakening, but still ever present myth of frontier conquest and colonial expansion (I say its weakening due to things like the mostly symbolic commitments towards stuff like reconciliation on an official level over the past couple of decades, a recent development though is that the more explicitly reactionary side of mainstream politics seems more reluctant to even engage in this symbolism and that definitely changes up the dynamic), then you have the "centre left"/socdem institutions like the ALP or the unions, (the latter of which have successfully been put in a straitjacket by both Labor and the Libs and are primarily staffed by careerists twiddling their thumbs and waiting to be preselected in some safe Labor seat) being completely and utterly unable and/or unwilling to deal with economic concerns and crises like the housing crisis or cost of living issues and wages being shit and anyone further to the left like The Greens or all the smaller trot and other groups carrying out political agitation in a way that isn't effective at reaching anyone outside of a small subsection of society who are usually either PMC types living in the inner suburbs of the capital cities or students(iirc SAlt explicitly mention that they don't really care too much about agitating workers and that students are their priority). Then of course you've got basically all of the media in this country being an opinion column for our wonderful bourgeoise to churn out slop on daily basis telling people that all the houses being expensive and their lives getting more shit is because of Indians and Chinese and that Aboriginal people, the supposedly all powerful left that this country has, Sudanese teenagers and the Chinese once more are conspiring to break into your house and steal your cock, your balls and your 2019 Ford Ranger XLT. Add what's happening online, where if you open up tiktok or ig reels it won't be long before you see some morons sperging about the jews, trans people, immigrants or culture war nonsense from the states and there basically being no one agitating from any kind of leftist standpoint that would appeal to zoomers (only ones who come to mind are the two Jordans, one who is hopelessly infatuated with the Labor party and the other who is infatuated with speaking with an annoying vocal fry valley girl accent who more people probably find infuriating rather than endearing, there's some smaller people who do some good shit though but aren't nearly as prominent as those I've mentioned) and you're off to the races. The amount of seemingly regular and relatively apolitcal coworkers and acquaintances who I've seen liking or reposting basically /pol/ tier nonsense whenever I go on more normie social media over the past couple of years has gone through the roof and I feel is indicative of the problem.
>>2635754
https://archive.ph/qETpI
>>2635563
One should hope, for what it's worth I had had an infatuation with chinletism as a teenager and a lot of my mates in school were also into it. It faded away once I went into the "real world" and started working and living out of home, that and applying the bare minimum of critical thought to chinlet ideas since that shit has so many contradictions that it falls to pieces once you spend more than a moment looking at it with a critical eye

>>2635396
how can you be a girl and be for anti-feminist or incel terrorism

>A quarter of boys agree with all forms of violent extremism.
Yeah nah, I doubt a quarter of them are nazbolcels. Even teenagers.

>>2636128
ffs lrn2paragraph

>then you have the "centre left"/socdem institutions like the ALP

Where did you get your information on the ALP, fucking Lenin? Even "centre left" is an increasingly inaccurate description, as they shift right and the LNP collapse.

>The Greens or all the smaller trot and other groups carrying out political agitation in a way that isn't effective at reaching anyone outside of a small subsection of society who are usually either PMC types living in the inner suburbs of the capital cities or students(iirc SAlt explicitly mention that they don't really care too much about agitating workers and that students are their priority)

Coarse and simplified, but generally correct.
I don't use social media but unless there's some huge social media campaigns I'm missing, there's little more than street posters, a few Soli union campaigns and the Palestine movement exposing these groups to a wider audience.
>there's some smaller people who do some good shit
Name and fame them.

>>2636175
Not sure about terrorism, but yeah the article this neo-nazi propaganda is based off ( https://archive.ph/qETpI ) discusses misogyny among women.

>>2636175
>how can you be a worker and be for anti-worker or billionaire terrorism
Welcome to false consciousness, enjoy your journey.

>>2635396
> No support for boys emotionally or physically
> Shit on them since they have the same chromosomes as the pedophile boomers
< Also conveniently "forget" that structures come from power
> Throw in defending Israel making them seek out alternative media, leading to grooming like what >>2635438
Wtf how couldve happened!!!

Let's in response become engage in idpol that conveniently buries class consciousness and yell at them more!
> Inb4: um actually my idpol is perfect and never tried before and we just did consider the class so stop criticizing us!!!!!!!

>>2636214
>phoneposter
>strawman
didn't read.

This tracks with the amount of right wing/fascist Gen Alpha I'm seeing irl. The fascists are winning and making huge gains in real time. I'm so done with this world.

>>2635518
I don’t think indoeuropeans are semetic I’ll have to look it up

>>2635506
How am I supposed to know what a legit news site looks like in Dropbear kingdom?

this is why we need to focus on radicalizing women
the men are a lost cause

>>2635396
We're never going to get back to sanity unless we start locking up far-right influencers.

>>2636214
>No support for boys emotionally or physically
I've never understood this claim. What do you mean? How are girls being supported but boys not? Be as materialist as possible please, no vibes or vague gestures at undefined cultural trends.

And idpol continues to reap what it sows. If anyone is surprised by this, you are truly a retard

>>2636128
>Teenagers are edgy
No shit

>>2636568
Didn't mean to quote that one retard btw

Why do they never become stalinists? Why is it always hitlerite bullshit?

>>2636232
Materialist analysis as to why?
Will I have to kill gen alpha like it's zombie apocalypse?

>>2636575
The internet is captured by the right wing in it's entirety, and there is no leftist counterbalance; the western left are utterly marginalized and completely ineffectual.

i doubt this, most of it is just edgy signalling, and the biggest right wing extremist group in australia are a bunch of pathetic pedophile advocates and child groomers who cultivate insanity, no one likes them either unless they're genuinely idiotic

Nothing has changed. This was also the case in the 80s, 90s, 2000s and 2010s lmao. Of course ideology reproduces.

>The survey also found girls are identifying with a variety of violent extremist movements including 30.4 per cent supporting right-wing beliefs, followed by left-wing (21.6 per cent), anti-feminist (21.1 per cent), white nationalist (19.3 per cent), incel (17.5 per cent), and religious (13.9 per cent) ideologies.
So not a boys problem.

>>2637031
just not true, demonstrably untrue even, some of you are gonna go ballistic at me saying the word "non-political" but it is correct, the internet for the most part is non-political with right wing shit bleeding through it
>>2637041
if you ask me i think this study is designed exclusively to support the nonsensical laws for "child protection" and just keep stripping the youth of rights as they're considered as being "violent extremists" or whatever excuse they're gonna pull up for it

>>2637042
Holy kek, every single algorithm on every single webzone shill people through the right-wing pipeline. Practically every single popular content creator, minus hasan, is right wing. Liberal and leftist (what little there is) messaging disregards or trivializes the issues young men are facing, while right wing media welcomes them and elucidates them on how they can be powerful and worthwhile, again. Nazi sympathy is at an all time high, where you'll find it in practically every comment section that is political.

You are utterly and completely delusional.

>>2636575
Extreme right drift due to no pussy is one of the most well documented psychological phenomenons in politics. Even East German men cited the feeling of losing control of their wives as the reason for voting for annexation. >>2637041
Pick mes are also nothing new. All that Handmaids Tale fetish baiting tbh.

>>2637050
>every single algorithm on every single webzone shill people through the right-wing pipeline
not true, not even on youtube and hasn't been for years, "the right wing pipeline" is arguably nonsense anyway, the only sites i can think of with a demonstrable right wing pipeline are sites that are actually right wing, like xitter or 4chan, likewise "every popular content creator is right wing" is also a similar nonsense statement that's just granted as being true, most of them are liberal centrists, because most people in general, are liberal centrists, and they're liberal centrists because that's the least offensive worldview AND it's the one they're raised with, also "Liberal and leftist (what little there is) messaging disregards or trivializes the issues young men are facing" isn't even fucking true either, another statement that's assumed to be true, given no examples to prove or to even contradict. "Nazi sympathy is at an all time high" proof? whenever i see it, it normally gets attacked for being stupid, unless you go to a place that's gonna be filled with nazi sympthasizers and other racists. and calling me delusional? when all you repeat are claims created by groveling socdems to explain their losses? it's nonsense

>>2635396

>A quarter of boys supported every form of violent extremism identified in the survey, left-wing” on 28.5%

>For girls, 17% supported all forms of violent extremism listed, 21.6% for left-wing,

There's still hope left.

For the other numbers, unfortunately the current superstructure greatly support the hegemony of right wing bourgeois ideology, and people who are bourgeois. This greatly floods most young's people's viewing habits.

After the revolution these people won't be able to reproduce.

Mandatory puberty blockers/birth control until you've mastered dialectics.

You can get any poll result by asking any group of people depending on the timeframe and question. In addition to the fact that the media grift favors narratives that anger or sadden people, I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw em. Measure these things by real happenings OP. Most social attitudes are actually getting more progressive over time if you look at long-term (think decades) data

>>2635438
Australia is just Burger Reich Jr., just like Israel.

>>2637056
>All that Handmaids Tale fetish baiting tbh.
yeah liberals will never learn that their "authoritarian dystopian cautionary tales" just makes rightoids horny for the type of society they want to create when they might otherwise not be thinking about it

>Australia
Not a real country

>13-17

Lmao ok

Means nothing you cringe doomer retard have you ever been 13 or are you presently 13?

>>2635411
I’m wondering why no one brought that up

>>2636424
And lobotomizing them.

>>2636190
>an increasingly inaccurate description, as they shift right
Don't get me wrong, I'm not under any illusion that the ALP is essentially a right wing party these days and has been for a longer while now, I didn't put the quotation marks there for fun, nonetheless they still are inaccurately perceived in popular consciousness as such.
>some huge social media campaigns I'm missing
You aren't missing much
>Name and fame them
A lot of of people like Tanuki and the White Rose Society do some decent longer form stuff, but their work is almost exclusively focused on antifa stuff and reporting on whatever the most recent exploits of the NSN and such are. There's a channel on yt called adu that does some okay things too and focuses on more broad economic and political issues, bar that I struggle to think of anyone else

>>2637062
Yeah the YouTube algorithm has been perceived as so unwieldy that people just treat it as video imgur at this point. It hosts the video portion of the pipeline but you go down it because you regular a forum, discord or twitter that happened to use YouTube.

>>2637031
>The internet
Centralized social media and search engines. Everything else is leftyland.

Not sure why people ITT are trying to pretend this can't happen or seep into adulthood. Plenty of nazi sympathizing adults exist. Just look at Fatmerica.

>>2637062
<Um, um, not true!! not true!!

Stop burying your head in the sand. The most popular pundits and podcasters are all right wing. Joe Rogan. Tucker Carlson. Candice Owens. Andrew Tate. Fuentes. Asmongold.

Liberal and leftist commentators are dwarfed in comparison. There's, what, Hasan? He's mostly known for shocking his dog, these days. Destiny? Compared to Fuentes, or even Candice Owens, he's a nobody.

Ever time a male issue is addressed (loneliness, dating, etc.), 9/10 in any liberal space it is met with derision, or, at minimum, dismissal.

On a Agent Kochinski video, sure, you'll find people fighting back, but in any neutral space you'll find so, so, so many dog-whistle or just outright nazi apologia. Why, just the other day, there was a random wolfenstein clip that was posted, and a good chunk of the comments were stating how "we play as the bad guys" or some variation with little to no pushback.

You will simply say "nuh uh", again, but it is quite evident that, if you spend any time online, that the overton window has shifted drastically to the right; pretending that isn't the case does us no favors.

>>2636425
Boys don't get emotional support and are taught to hold it in, they dont get financial support for college or anything since of their gender.
They end result is that it's men who're the majority of homelessness, unemployed, suicides, etc. – with their success being less of women such as pay recently.

Like how far do you want to go on this?

>>2638003
>Look, when a youtuber discovered that there were no kids in daycares that receive tens of millions per year
Kill yourself as soon as possible

>>2638003
I doubt he or anyone here wants to vote
Why do you care about democrats?

>>2637920
i'm telling you a fact, it's not hard to avoid right wing content, and the reason why i'm dismissive is because the results precisely haven't borne out, where is this right wing pipeline? at best it seems like a case of mass hysteria, and also, most of those guys (with the exception of tucker and candace owens) don't even get most of their strength from youtube, likewise i just don't think that "political commentator who posts on youtube" is a realistic barometer for it, i go on youtube a lot, i even go on other social media a lot, and the average person is a liberal of some kind, that's the median guy, citing "this guy has x number of views" is not particularly indicative if the influence of that person is low, likewise my skepticism is precisely because polls and broad statements like these are typically instances of fearmongering to push an idea, am i expected to believe a study on the beliefs of youths in australia around the time of a massive campaign of internet and government censorship, simply fell out of the sky? as if it has no relation whatsoever? i heavily doubt these statistics because i too was once a teenager in australia, around that age, and i can tell you the average person's political views would be liberal + whatever thing they themselves believed

>>2638003
> Former liberal.
> Former democrat and still on the left for 90% of stuff.
If I understand correctly, these are YTbers like:
>Damn SJW fascism is trying to force its agenda on us n shieeet, here's a bunch of content about how trans and feminists are bad. But don't get me wrong, I'm a liberal and pro-freedom, but wokeness has gone too far!
Of course they are not leftists and certainly not liberals.

>>2638050
they are liberals though? right wing liberals, but that doesn't outright prohibit them from being liberals, part of the point i and that guy is trying to nail home, neo-fascism isn't a real thing, and i don't mean right-wing populism in general, that is at least a real, demonstrable phenomena with effects on the world, actual neo-fascists are not real, they have a presence in the world, but they are typically nothing but street thugs and paraders, and those who sympathise with them, especially the youth are not genuine believers in the movement, fundamentally it is an aesthetic they put on to feel strong or tough, because they are weak, because they are uneducated, because they are unhappy, then when they get older, they typically just turn into standard right-liberals

tf is a 15 year old gonna do exactly

>>2638065
get groomed by the NSN and turned into one of their thugs, it's a real problem

and to emphasize this so you guys get it, i say the NSN and pretty much every neo-fascist group isn't really a thing is because there are no successful neo-fascist movements, they are all either basically just organized crime groups, non-state death squads, or cults, the NSN falls into the third group, the NSN isn't a political movement, it doesn't protest, it marches, it doesn't advocate for real policies or real change, it advocates whatever is popular in the right wing space, and some shock on top, they haven't achieved much of anything except expanding their cult, they aren't even like the right-wing populist parties either, which also do the same vibes-based worldview but there is something concrete there, by any measure, they are similar to the manson family or fundamentalist mormons, notorious but unaccomplished, and yes, some cults are also political too, the rajneeshis did take over a town and attempted to take over a county, they at least were something that existed beyond a general vibe

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