The Soviet Union opened its very first large toilet paper factory in… 1969
And toilet paper remained in deficit for the whole Soviet period, right until the end.
People would buy Pravda and Komsomol newspapers exclusively to use as toilet paper.
In 1981, a Soviet plane crashed and killed 16 Admirals and Generals because it was overloaded with hoarded toilet paper lol.
There’s literally no reason to use paper, just hop in the shower and eat enough fiber that you don’t smear
America had multiple "legal highs" later outlawed or labelled as controversial, widely prescribed for the illness of living in America.
Stalin wiped with them all
It degenerated
>le toilet paper
You can wash yourself moron, water is also a way better cleaner
>>2638833You need both for a full clean experience unless you want to have to take a shower after every shit.
>>2638865Shit once a day, it’s easy if you don’t binge coffee like a degenerate
mod send this uyghur to the bottom of hell RIGHT NOW
>>2638865Or just use a bidet.
>>2638894Again just washing it isnt going to make it clean try it yourself if you want wash your ass then wipe it with toilet paper there will be brown on the paper.
uygha they had just got done waging a war that basically destroyed the entire industrialized part of the country. They can't wish for things out of thin air, and in the later years they had to specifically focus on military rather than consumer goods because they were constantly at odds with the US and Nato.
>>2638894Would a bidet solve me shitting blood all the time?
>>2638765Play workers and resources: Soviet republic
>The Soviet Union opened its very first large toilet paper factory in… 1969
No, that's a lie based on technicality. TP was in production since the Stalin times, it was just mostly sheet paper which was also the most common type of paper in the west for a long while. Obviously production suffered a lot in 1941.
>People would buy Pravda and Komsomol newspapers exclusively to use as toilet paper.
uyghur you think TP made in the first half of the 20th century was any better than newspapers? That stuff had splinters and shit in it. Also soviet newspapers were free.
>In 1981, a Soviet plane crashed and killed 16 Admirals and Generals because it was overloaded with hoarded toilet paper lol.
Never heard about it but sounds like a retarded myth.
>>2638942>sheet paperImagine the plumbing issues
>>2638765>Why was the USSR such a shitholeMaybe your demonic US govt and all the mindless halfwit ghouls that constitute Amerikkkan citizens had something to do with it? How do Amerikkkan mouthbreathers find this site?
Toilet paper is a bourgeois treat
>>2638973Cool it with the barracks communism
>>2638925You are such a dumbass. I stopped using toilet paper because it's inefficient. Instead after shitting, I hop my ass onto the sink and then use the faucet as a bidet while washing the ass with soap. It's not that hard and my towels don't have brown streaks.
>>2638942Yeah it's another semi-myth pushed by retards and accepted by other retards who WANT TO BELIEVE that communism is evil so they can feel good about themselves. The funniest thing about this story is that soviet newspapers were both cheap and softer than the brown sandpaper my grandparents still prefer to use today for some reason that was the available toilet paper before 1969, and even then, the government had to run a campaign to promote the new white toilet paper because people chose to stick with newspapers as they were used to them. There is a very acute irony how everyone used pravda to wipe their asses, even the most patriotic of communists. I guess it's similar to americans wearing star spangled underwear. As to the story about le dead admirals, I first heard it from the anticommunist youtuber Paper Skies and in that story it was not toilet paper that brought down the plane, but a shit ton of sausage and furniture. I don't know if it's true but it's very fashionable to make things up about the SU because the west needs cope.
>>2638865>unless you want to have to take a shower after every shit.yeah, a shit then a shower per day is quite reasonable, i think
>>2638981You should use both dumbass have some reading comprehension.
90% of you people are utterly worthless and should kill yourselves. You know nothing about the state you fete. Worse, you can't even do 2 seconds googling.
I don't know anything about the Soviet toilet paper situation, but OP is suspect because the 1981 plane crash in question is cited as caused by rolls of
printing paper, not toilet paper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Pushkin_Tu-104_crash Even
https://www.coffeeordie.com/article/soviet-navy-sausage-crash (early non-wiki result) gives the cause as
>…the officers headed back to Pushkin Airfield on Feb. 7, 1981, with hundreds of pounds of sausage, cheese, and other goods. Also, the commanding admiral brought massive rolls of paper for a unit newspaper as well as entire furniture sets.>>2638765If you really were just posting anticommunist bait, OP, congratulations: no toilet paper situation in the USSR could be as humiliating for world socialism as the posts of its adherents on leftypol.org.
>>2638932this excuse is fine in 1950, maybe even in 1959, but it's embarrassing in 1969.
Japan was burned to the ground and they didn't have this problem in '59 let alone '69. Even if you say: ah, well Japan is cheating because they got preferential access to the US market, I would be surprised to learn that (say) East Germany had this problem.
>>2638942>>2638989At long last, people who vaguely know what they're talking about.
Good job, comrades. Don't kill yourselves. Feel free to kill anyone else ITT tho
Posting in a bullshit thread. Anyway. I think a socialist society should actually put information on rolls of toilet paper. Maybe not Fidel's speeches, but factoids and vocabulary stuff.
>>2638942>you think TP made in the first half of the 20th century was any better than newspapers? That stuff had splinters and shit in it. Also soviet newspapers were free.This.
>>2639014And this.
>The Soviet Union opened its very first large toilet paper factory in… 1969
Nice.
>>2639048I believe Venezuela under Chavez actually printed pieces of the constitution on goods that went to the small grocery stores for the poor
that's why we support TPUSA here
>>2638765They had little need of it
A good communist diet and the power of diuretical materialism gave every soviet citizen clean, solid and healthy shits
>>2638894Bidets are bourgeois
>>2638936Checkmate tankies.
>he doesn't know how to use the shells
>>2638777>America had multiple "legal highs" later outlawed or labelled as controversial, widely prescribed for the illness of living in America.My friend who was born in the Soviet union said it was the same way there and actually Soviet drug policy was directly copied from American drug policy.
>>2638765My friend said it was like paradise. He's from Turkmen SSR. I mean especially compared to Turkmenistan today. I don't want to just shit on Turkmenistan but from what I've heard before and what I heard from him it sounds pretty bad.
Has anybody ever done a series of all the SSRs before and after the USSR?
>>2682898>Has anybody ever done a series of all the SSRs before and after the USSR?What do you mean
>>2682017>selfie-stickoh how quaint and innocent the old times were.
>>2682898>My friend who was born in the Soviet union said it was the same way there and actually Soviet drug policy was directly copied from American drug policy.Every drug policy in the world is copied from American drug policy, they pushed it through the UN single drug convention because criminalization is profitable and allows for additional control.
>>2683275Holy Armenia and Ukraine
Using the newspaper you've already read as toilet paper is peak Theory of Inventive Problem Solving.
Using dry toilet paper is inferior to a bidet, sorry.
>>2683335My technique is 1. Shit 2. Dry wipe 3. Wash asshole in bidet 4. A final wipe with toilet paper to dry it.
>>2683335i thought people knew this?
USSR simply just had terrible leadership post-Stalin and bad insitutions that incentivised corruption and the wrong things leading to poor levels of planning, cooperation and constantly mediocre (but consistant) levels of growth.
Imagine an entire country running on basically "whatever that'll do", meanwhile literally every interaction revolves around bribery. Like do people even realise to see a doctor in the USSR you had to go out and buy him presents to bring along? That you got a doctors appointment by saying shit like "oh tell I also got him 100 rubels worth of presents I need to drop off at the office".
This is why Chinese Socialism has always been superior to the USSR. Far more functional and pragmatic system that just didn't inherit shitty corrupt Tsarist institutions and slap a red coat of paint on them.
>>2683396lol yeah they only inherited shitty corrupt Confucian institutions and slapped a red coat of paint on them.
>>2638765Lack of light industry because heavy industry good caveman thinking. Also spending 25% of GDP on military.
>>2683398CPC didn't inherit institutions, it created actual dual power due to it rising up from autonomous democratic cells and fighting a civil war for decades where they had little to no communication with eachother.
The Bolsheviks just stole an election and said "Yep all those institutions are now ours", it wasn't really a grassroots uprising of dual power institutions like the Chinese revolution was. Mass Line is still a massive part of Chinese policy, meanwhile the Soviets were dismantled in the USSR in the early 1920s and were formally abolished in 1936.
>>2683405>meanwhile the Soviets were dismantled in the USSR in the early 1920s I will never forgive this to Lenin.
>>2638925you retard angloid using toilet paper just to wash your ass with a bidet afterwards might be the most tarded thing ever to come out of your brain
>>2683396>>2683398>>2683401>>2683405Fucking hilarious that you guys completely ignore the actual responses debunking OPs nonsense, you guys are fucking retards.
>>2683405>The Bolsheviks just stole an election and said "Yep all those institutions are now ours", it wasn't really a grassroots uprising of dual power institutions like the Chinese revolution was. Mass Line is still a massive part of Chinese policy, meanwhile the Soviets were dismantled in the USSR in the early 1920s and were formally abolished in 1936<Le bolshies were mean and stole muh electionsAre you trying to cosplay as a butthurt lib that lives in the baltics?
The thread is basically ogre, but all of these claims about the Soviet Union supposedly making basic items unobtainable depends on the false comparison against what is easily found and bought in Western shops today and not those of the 20th Century.
Consumer electronics probably involves the biggest misconception in this regard, they’re essentially all disposable items these days and you’re encouraged to treat them as such with planned obsolescence, but it seems that gets projected on to fancy 80s Japanese hi-fis when trying to critique le consoomerism in the Soviet Union. By which it’s imagined everyone in the West had those now-quaint Laserdisc players in the 1980s because capitalism is just so heckin dedicated to facilitating consumerism, while only those with the money in the USSR could get one from the black market and with waiting lists unless you had connections, aka you “knew a guy” in contemporary western parlance.
In reality, even TVs were expensive enough, unreliable enough and hard enough to replace in the West that it was common to lease them in the 20th Century. Being able to go to your nearest shopping centre on any day and finding a new TV, in-stock, for the cost of a day or two’s salary is a pretty recent development.
>>2684411they literally didn't win a majority in one of the elections, declared it null and void and just seized power anyway
>>2684469Yep, a home computer ran you over a month's wage in the 1980s, with Apples or IBMs costing as much as a car.
>>2684411The difference is that the Bolsheviks were handed over completely set up institutions, they slapped a red coat of paint on them and kept them largely the same.
The CPC built new institutions from the ground up and the party always functioned more through localism anyway, the heart of the CPC is really village councils.
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