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"Superbigote es inocente" Edición

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Previous Thread >>2634712
416 posts and 118 image replies omitted.

>>2866739
>can any force in venezuela stop america if they decided to invade, genocide and plunder venezuela tomorrow if they decided to? no?
According to WHAT
>>2866741
>>2866749
>Yes your clique of cool people will just mog the CIA into retreat.
again why even bother trying if your argument is "the capitalists will resist"

shit i mean maybe nobody should ever even bother resisting capitalists.

>>2866793
>According to WHAT
do you seriously think venezuela would actually stand a chance against the imperialists? is america not a regional (or global, whatever you prefer) superpower with nukes and a global economic system priced in dollars all of a sudden? go ahead and victim blame some more tho it really helps your stupidass argument

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>american 'commies to venezuelan workers: we need u to die bro just sacrifice everything to fight my employer thats raping your country bro just fight in the jungle and think of the international revolution bro the world is counting on YOU dont ask about me im fighting the imperialists too bro trust me now pick up that gun and head for the jungle bro nothing can be accomplished without u dying for my ideology bro you're an actual traitor to humanity if u live to fight another day

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I can't tell if the above post is mocking neo-3rd worldist or leftcoms.

>>2866807
There is no point in building up strongholds of socialism, got it.

>>2866828
I don't take issue with the argument that Venezuela could and should have put up stiffer resistance. My issue is with the notion that successful regime change means that there was nothing worthwhile being built in the first place.

>>2866828
>he thinks building socialism on the opposite side of the planet has the EXACT SAME challenges as building socialism in americas backyard
>he thinks building socialism in americas backyard is actually just as easy as the DPRK building socialism under the explicit protection of China
american exceptionalist moment. please blow your brains out

>>2866831
bro marx was advocating that the lever of english anticapitalism had to be applied in ireland while ireland was under colonial rule literally right next door to the world's superpower, while it had no meaningful connections to anywhere else.

>>2866837
and yet ireland has still not been fully liberated in our modern (mostly) post-colonial world. what does that tell you about the difficulty of sovereignty next to an imperialist superpower, let alone toying with the idea of socialist construction? it would be just as ludicrous to blame venezuela for their subordination to america as it would be to blame the irish for their subordination to the UK. (and no, the current irish state despite being 'independent' is still a slave to the UK, for example irish airspace is controlled by london and they always intercept russian planes in it despite irish protest)

yes faggots
venezuela should've sacrificed itself and bled
their subservience directly emboldened trump and encouraged his shenanigans in iran and elsewhere

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>>2866867
>shenanigans in iran
shenanigans that america eventually lost, so props to delcy

>>2866876
it isnt over. america is bombing iran right now

>>2866877
>t. Rumsfeld
bombing raids haven't accomplished anything since the first gulf war, america automatically loses so long as the nuclear dust still exists

The comparisons to Iran are pretty telling since its an example of a country that actually has resolutely resisted US pressure and all we hear from leftcoms is how its an inter-imperialist conflict and the Iranian ruling class are just sacrificing their own proles for profits. They come into this threat to gloat about how Venezuela's capitulation proves them right but Iran proves that if Venezuela had resisted they'd just find some other reason to complain. These people just fundamentally don't believe a better world is possible.

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Miss him yet?

>>2866883
is this real

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<The secretary of state [marco rubio] effectively controls Venezuela’s finances, the distribution of its natural resources and its government. His grip on the country is a vivid manifestation of American power in the Trump era.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/11/us/politics/how-marco-rubio-runs-venezuela.html

Venezuela is officially the most cucked country of the continent, congrats bolivaricels

>>2867012
>nytimes

>>2867012
>most cucked country of the continent
No that would be Paraguay

>>2866882
>better world
<look inside
>its social-democracy and islamic theocracy

>>2867197
Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change. You people claim to believe in the possibility of "real socialism" but never point to any state, movement, or actor that is actually bringing us closer to it.

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>>2865959
Golinger is interesting because she was close to Chavez but broke with Maduro (from the left), alleging the project degenerated into corrupt cronyism. She had been saying that kind of stuff for several years.

>>2867308
>Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change.
big if true

>>2867013
In the six months since U.S. forces blew open Mr. Maduro’s bedroom door and snatched him in the dead of night, Mr. Rubio has become the de facto viceroy of Venezuela, holding sway over a sovereign nation in a way that no American official has since L. Paul Bremer III arrived in Baghdad in 2003 to run U.S.-occupied Iraq.

While he has not visited Venezuela in person since the U.S. took over, the secretary of state is deeply involved in the country’s day-to-day operations, keeping in close contact with Delcy Rodríguez, who was Mr. Maduro’s vice president and now leads her country on an acting basis, with the imprimatur of the United States. The two exchange messages in Spanish on WhatsApp, trading gossip, birthday greetings and selfies.

The U.S. Treasury receives the revenue from most of Venezuela’s exports, then disburses it to Venezuela through the country’s banking system, a relationship akin to parents handing out allowances to children. Mr. Rubio and his team set the conditions on what that money can be spent on, and by whom.

He also oversees the application of U.S. sanctions on Venezuela, deciding who gets to do business in the country and how. He has worked to reshape the oil sector and boosted the access of U.S. companies. For her part, Ms. Rodríguez runs important government appointments by him, such as the minister of defense.

In the early hours of Jan. 3, shortly after Mr. Maduro was captured, Mr. Rubio reached Ms. Rodríguez by phone. Speaking in Spanish, Mr. Rubio told her that she had a choice between working with the United States or witnessing a broader attack targeting Venezuela’s infrastructure, military bases and senior officials.

As Ms. Rodríguez started to set up her government, Mr. Rubio weighed in on key personnel decisions, and encouraged her to purge Mr. Maduro’s family and business partners. She followed through.

Before the earthquakes, Ms. Rodríguez had been asking Mr. Rubio for more financial autonomy and the scrapping of economic sanctions, to reduce the domestic pressure on her government.

Mr. Rubio has been sympathetic to her arguments, but the U.S. government has not released control.

Mr. Rubio and other officials have dismissed those concerns, pointing to how Ms. Rodríguez has followed nearly every order the administration has made, especially those related to the country’s finances. Venezuela sells much of its oil through two oil trading companies, Trafigura and Vitol, in an arrangement set up by the Trump administration.

Mr. Rubio has largely eclipsed Chris Wright, the energy secretary, in opening up Venezuela’s oil industry to foreign investment, the cornerstone of Mr. Trump’s vision for the country. He has prioritized the arrival of new American companies at the expense of European oil producers who were already working in the country.

Washington’s grip on Venezuela’s economy extends beyond the oil revenues. Mr. Rubio’s team drafts the licenses that provide companies who want to do business in Venezuela with exemptions from sanctions. Mr. Rubio has warned Ms. Rodríguez’s government to abstain from business with U.S. adversaries. Following Mr. Maduro’s downfall, for example, Venezuela’s state oil company has quietly taken over the operations of the oil projects that it co-owns with Russia’s state-run Rosneft. Rosneft did not respond to request for comment.

The Trump administration has also successfully pressured Ms. Rodríguez to turn over Venezuelans who have crossed the Justice Department. At the behest of the United States, Ms. Rodríguez’s government in February detained Alex Saab, the billionaire friend and business partner of Mr. Maduro, and approved his extradition to the United States, after stripping him of his Venezuelan passport.

The Trump administration even exerts control over Ms. Rodríguez’s public appearances and statements. In May, Mr. Rubio announced that Ms. Rodríguez would travel to India before the Venezuelan government mentioned it, surprising Venezuelan officials and foreign diplomats.

When the Fox News anchor Bret Baier contacted Ms. Rodríguez about participating in an interview, she told him that Mr. Trump would have to approve. Mr. Trump loved that Ms. Rodríguez was deferring to him, and has repeatedly recounted the story to others when they ask about her, according to multiple people familiar with his comments.

When the United States attacked Iran, Yvan Gil, Venezuela’s foreign minister, issued a soft condemnation of the aggression against Venezuela’s longtime ally.
The Trump administration communicated to Ms. Rodríguez that the post should be taken down, and warned her not to publicly support its adversaries again. Mr. Gil deleted the post hours after posting it.

https://archive.is/eXVJn

>>2867308
>Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change.

It's catalyst for USA becoming the largest exporter of oil on the planet, keeping oil prices high so that US shale is profitable, disrupt global economy right as China's is making exports push, and creating space in the market for Venezuelan (now a US vassal) oil.

Communism on the other hand, is nowhere to be seen. But don't worry maybe we'll elect some DSA succdems on anti-war pro-treat platform.

>You people claim to believe in the possibility of "real socialism" but never point to any state, movement, or actor that is actually bringing us closer to it.


Because none exist lol. Understanding this simple fact will answer literally everything. Seriously, you will never have doubts, confusions, existential dread, feelings of betrayal when you finally understand this.

>>2867197
Exactly. It's not Delcy's betrayal that is "proof" of Venezuelan capitalist nature. It's the fact that its…a capitalist country that exploits labor for profit.

Like if you believe in the Marxist criticism of exploitation and wage-labor and anarchy of production at all, then you have to jump some real hoops to pretend that Venezuelan companies are somehow not exploiting while other countries that do the exact same thing are exploiting. Venezuela doesn't even have the plausible deniabiltiy of "building productive forces", they have been horribly mismanaging their economy through corruption and incompetence.

Fucking Peru or Ecuadaor have done a much better job of actually improving the standard of living of ordinary people and they didnt need to LARP as socialist to achieve that.

>>2867380
>Because none exist lol.
None exist. None ever have existed. None will exist. You don't believe change is possible, which is why you are a liberal.

>>2867385
nvclear trvth bvmb
the only purpose of leftkkkoms is to attack other socialists
they serve no other purpose
they build nothing and offer no alternatives
it doesn't matter whether you're a maoist stalinist trotskyist or any other tendency there will always be an annoying leftkkkom yapping from his chair about how they're all actually capitalists.

>>2867385
>You don't believe change is possible
if you call social-democracy or state capitalism "AES" its you that thinks change is impossible because you have turned socialism into something identical to capitalism

>'This isn’t Venezuela where you take out one person and everyone else gets scared and backs down'

<Iran’s FM Abbas Araghchi on confronting Trump’s top negotiator Steve Witkoff


Shots fired.

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>>2867383
The biggest economical winners this year are… Monopoly executives bringing in a whopping $8million/year shooting them directly into the world's richest class.

This allows executives to permanently be a part of the ultra rich class.

The current greed of executives in monopolies even though the monopolies are failing across the board reveals and important detail about the nature of executives. Pure raw greed at the expense of others. They have built nothing of value and intend to build nothing of value, a sad reality of the world we live in. These executives are however able to put their money into one of the investment walls and earn more money than the best paying job on the planet a government contractor. These are however outlier positions, as most Corporate workers are… Living paycheck to paycheck.

The biggest loser this year are dole recipients. Trust thieves with money is a horrible idea, working for companies is a horrible idea.

The noble safety net that exists in some countries has prevented extraordinary crimes and tragic circumstances. The wonderful idea of sharing and living in a society of mutually respectful and mutual beneficiary collective has outlined itself as the only way forward.

>>2871838
he needs sabo anon to explain him socdems are the real movement

>>2871892
At the moment the Iranians are "the real movement". I despise that phrase though because it's constantly abused by retards. Suffice to say that Iran is (inadvertently and despite its class character as a state) helping to create conditions more favourable to socialism than what preceded them.

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Trust the Torah, real Jews are in control.
Those that bless Israel will be blessed,
those that curse Israel will be cursed.

Lol

Excerpt from a post that has interesting info on the new relations between the US and Venezuela, but particularly interesting was this passage on Delcy:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2026/07/narratives-of-moral-conflict-karim-khan-and-delcy-rodriguez/

>I have no reason to adjust the assessment of Delcy Rodríguez that I reached after careful study. In fact I have the strongest reinforcement, in that I now know with absolute certainty that Delcy Rodríguez did not betray Maduro. I have had direct access to documentary, eye-witness, audio and visual evidence that conclusively showed me that:


<Maduro was aware of his likely kidnap and stood down armed resistance.

<In the preceding weeks Rodríguez had been approached to cooperate with Maduro’s removal and had adamantly refused.
<On the night of his kidnap Rodríguez was present, furious, refusing US overtures and seeking every avenue for Maduro’s immediate release.

>I believed these things to be true from first-hand accounts before I wrote my last major article on Venezuela: I am now absolutely certain they are true.


>Venezuela abjured the path of armed resistance to the poised US forces. Venezuela is a quarter the size of Iran, has far weaker armed forces and is within direct bomber range of the United States. It is a pacific country and has chosen to try to ride out the Trump storm, while maintaining the key benefits of the Bolivarian Revolution – especially free and universal education, free healthcare, widespread pensions and the commune system.


>The Chavista system already drew much criticism from the international Left for simply aiming to spread these social benefits from oil revenues, while allowing capitalists to dominate the rest of the economy. Communal ownership of means of production and distribution was growing organically, particularly through the communes, but there has been no fundamental change to the capitalist sector in a mixed economy. It is this factor which makes accommodation with US capitalist firms possible.


>This is dependent on the Venezuelan government tolerating US predator capitalism and the US government tolerating Venezuelan wealth distribution. This is the basis on which Rodríguez has been avoiding war and waiting for Trump to pass. It is the basis on which Trump has been exerting no pressure for regime change in Caracas, where he said again this week that Venezuela was “not ready” for early elections.


>Where there is room for genuine criticism from the Left is that this approach effectively cooperates with imposed American imperialism in key economic sectors; that the US is seeking to expand its monopoly into other Venezuelan mineral resources; and that imagining this is temporary and the Democrats would now be any better is probably illusory.


>But a devastating war is the only currently available alternative, and that definitely would destroy Chávez’s social achievements.

Fell for it

>>2872020
I agree cause the Supreme Leader was killed and islamist cops died.

>>2879442
social democrat backflipping into justifying what increasingly walks, talks, and smells like a right wing comprador government. they are actually saying "we have to be a right wing comprador government in all practical senses for the strategic (indefinitely) long term goal of one day doing socialism, vote for us!" and think that's a serious argument

>>2881523
like they are doomed as a political party one way or the other and just sit there compliant in their own destruction going "what do you want us to DO???", literally demonstrating to a T all of the criticisms of where democratic socialism leads.

>>2881523
this is one of the more interesting parts of his article that the anon should have posted

>There is more. The US has been selling the Venezuelan oil at a 5% discount to the world price. How you calculate a benchmark price for Venezuelan crude before applying the discount I am not sure, as the stuff is quite particular. But – and here we get into the realms of inconvenient facts a lot of my audience will not wish to hear – this compares to the 15% discount that China was imposing when it was the main recipient of Venezuelan crude.


>On top of which, China was making payment not within a week, but with a delay of months and sometimes years. Plus China was deducting money at source for repayment of Chinese loans to Venezuela. These loans were genuine and for excellent infrastructure projects, but obviously the deduction of repayments from oil revenues hit Venezuelan government fiscal flexibility hard.

>>2881527
oh the US has to give some modicum of perks to keep the new colony from rebelling, look everyone the demsuccs got a compromise on their country being raped! WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO THEY HAVE TO BE RIGHT WING THEY HAVE TO IT'S STRATEEEEGIC

>>2881537
missing the point. remove the stick from your butthole and rereading with a more relaxed mind.

>>2881527
>this is one of the more interesting parts of his article that the anon should have posted

It is interesting. I just couldn't be bothered to post more because I doubted anyone would read it, and even when they do there's usually just
>>2881523
<nuance is the faggiest bullshit of all
Tier responses.

>>2881527
if he doesn't know the value of venezuelan oil how can he claim china was getting a 15% discount?

Looks like Rodriguez is transitioning in the opposition.

>>2879442
so how is great genius delcy going to fix the problem of america controlling the accounts where oil payments are made once trump is gone?

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