/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2867013
In the six months since U.S. forces blew open Mr. Maduro’s bedroom door and snatched him in the dead of night, Mr. Rubio has become the de facto viceroy of Venezuela, holding sway over a sovereign nation in a way that no American official has since L. Paul Bremer III arrived in Baghdad in 2003 to run U.S.-occupied Iraq.

While he has not visited Venezuela in person since the U.S. took over, the secretary of state is deeply involved in the country’s day-to-day operations, keeping in close contact with Delcy Rodríguez, who was Mr. Maduro’s vice president and now leads her country on an acting basis, with the imprimatur of the United States. The two exchange messages in Spanish on WhatsApp, trading gossip, birthday greetings and selfies.

The U.S. Treasury receives the revenue from most of Venezuela’s exports, then disburses it to Venezuela through the country’s banking system, a relationship akin to parents handing out allowances to children. Mr. Rubio and his team set the conditions on what that money can be spent on, and by whom.

He also oversees the application of U.S. sanctions on Venezuela, deciding who gets to do business in the country and how. He has worked to reshape the oil sector and boosted the access of U.S. companies. For her part, Ms. Rodríguez runs important government appointments by him, such as the minister of defense.

In the early hours of Jan. 3, shortly after Mr. Maduro was captured, Mr. Rubio reached Ms. Rodríguez by phone. Speaking in Spanish, Mr. Rubio told her that she had a choice between working with the United States or witnessing a broader attack targeting Venezuela’s infrastructure, military bases and senior officials.

As Ms. Rodríguez started to set up her government, Mr. Rubio weighed in on key personnel decisions, and encouraged her to purge Mr. Maduro’s family and business partners. She followed through.

Before the earthquakes, Ms. Rodríguez had been asking Mr. Rubio for more financial autonomy and the scrapping of economic sanctions, to reduce the domestic pressure on her government.

Mr. Rubio has been sympathetic to her arguments, but the U.S. government has not released control.

Mr. Rubio and other officials have dismissed those concerns, pointing to how Ms. Rodríguez has followed nearly every order the administration has made, especially those related to the country’s finances. Venezuela sells much of its oil through two oil trading companies, Trafigura and Vitol, in an arrangement set up by the Trump administration.

Mr. Rubio has largely eclipsed Chris Wright, the energy secretary, in opening up Venezuela’s oil industry to foreign investment, the cornerstone of Mr. Trump’s vision for the country. He has prioritized the arrival of new American companies at the expense of European oil producers who were already working in the country.

Washington’s grip on Venezuela’s economy extends beyond the oil revenues. Mr. Rubio’s team drafts the licenses that provide companies who want to do business in Venezuela with exemptions from sanctions. Mr. Rubio has warned Ms. Rodríguez’s government to abstain from business with U.S. adversaries. Following Mr. Maduro’s downfall, for example, Venezuela’s state oil company has quietly taken over the operations of the oil projects that it co-owns with Russia’s state-run Rosneft. Rosneft did not respond to request for comment.

The Trump administration has also successfully pressured Ms. Rodríguez to turn over Venezuelans who have crossed the Justice Department. At the behest of the United States, Ms. Rodríguez’s government in February detained Alex Saab, the billionaire friend and business partner of Mr. Maduro, and approved his extradition to the United States, after stripping him of his Venezuelan passport.

The Trump administration even exerts control over Ms. Rodríguez’s public appearances and statements. In May, Mr. Rubio announced that Ms. Rodríguez would travel to India before the Venezuelan government mentioned it, surprising Venezuelan officials and foreign diplomats.

When the Fox News anchor Bret Baier contacted Ms. Rodríguez about participating in an interview, she told him that Mr. Trump would have to approve. Mr. Trump loved that Ms. Rodríguez was deferring to him, and has repeatedly recounted the story to others when they ask about her, according to multiple people familiar with his comments.

When the United States attacked Iran, Yvan Gil, Venezuela’s foreign minister, issued a soft condemnation of the aggression against Venezuela’s longtime ally.
The Trump administration communicated to Ms. Rodríguez that the post should be taken down, and warned her not to publicly support its adversaries again. Mr. Gil deleted the post hours after posting it.

https://archive.is/eXVJn

>>2867308
>Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change.

It's catalyst for USA becoming the largest exporter of oil on the planet, keeping oil prices high so that US shale is profitable, disrupt global economy right as China's is making exports push, and creating space in the market for Venezuelan (now a US vassal) oil.

Communism on the other hand, is nowhere to be seen. But don't worry maybe we'll elect some DSA succdems on anti-war pro-treat platform.

>You people claim to believe in the possibility of "real socialism" but never point to any state, movement, or actor that is actually bringing us closer to it.

Because none exist lol. Understanding this simple fact will answer literally everything. Seriously, you will never have doubts, confusions, existential dread, feelings of betrayal when you finally understand this.

>>2867197
Exactly. It's not Delcy's betrayal that is "proof" of Venezuelan capitalist nature. It's the fact that its…a capitalist country that exploits labor for profit.

Like if you believe in the Marxist criticism of exploitation and wage-labor and anarchy of production at all, then you have to jump some real hoops to pretend that Venezuelan companies are somehow not exploiting while other countries that do the exact same thing are exploiting. Venezuela doesn't even have the plausible deniabiltiy of "building productive forces", they have been horribly mismanaging their economy through corruption and incompetence.

Fucking Peru or Ecuadaor have done a much better job of actually improving the standard of living of ordinary people and they didnt need to LARP as socialist to achieve that.

>>2867380
>Because none exist lol.
None exist. None ever have existed. None will exist. You don't believe change is possible, which is why you are a liberal.

>>2867385
nvclear trvth bvmb
the only purpose of leftkkkoms is to attack other socialists
they serve no other purpose
they build nothing and offer no alternatives
it doesn't matter whether you're a maoist stalinist trotskyist or any other tendency there will always be an annoying leftkkkom yapping from his chair about how they're all actually capitalists.

>>2867385
>You don't believe change is possible
if you call social-democracy or state capitalism "AES" its you that thinks change is impossible because you have turned socialism into something identical to capitalism

>'This isn’t Venezuela where you take out one person and everyone else gets scared and backs down'

<Iran’s FM Abbas Araghchi on confronting Trump’s top negotiator Steve Witkoff

Shots fired.

>>2867383
The biggest economical winners this year are… Monopoly executives bringing in a whopping $8million/year shooting them directly into the world's richest class.

This allows executives to permanently be a part of the ultra rich class.

The current greed of executives in monopolies even though the monopolies are failing across the board reveals and important detail about the nature of executives. Pure raw greed at the expense of others. They have built nothing of value and intend to build nothing of value, a sad reality of the world we live in. These executives are however able to put their money into one of the investment walls and earn more money than the best paying job on the planet a government contractor. These are however outlier positions, as most Corporate workers are… Living paycheck to paycheck.

The biggest loser this year are dole recipients. Trust thieves with money is a horrible idea, working for companies is a horrible idea.

The noble safety net that exists in some countries has prevented extraordinary crimes and tragic circumstances. The wonderful idea of sharing and living in a society of mutually respectful and mutual beneficiary collective has outlined itself as the only way forward.

>>2871838
he needs sabo anon to explain him socdems are the real movement

>>2871892
At the moment the Iranians are "the real movement". I despise that phrase though because it's constantly abused by retards. Suffice to say that Iran is (inadvertently and despite its class character as a state) helping to create conditions more favourable to socialism than what preceded them.

Trust the Torah, real Jews are in control.
Those that bless Israel will be blessed,
those that curse Israel will be cursed.

Lol

Excerpt from a post that has interesting info on the new relations between the US and Venezuela, but particularly interesting was this passage on Delcy:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2026/07/narratives-of-moral-conflict-karim-khan-and-delcy-rodriguez/

>I have no reason to adjust the assessment of Delcy Rodríguez that I reached after careful study. In fact I have the strongest reinforcement, in that I now know with absolute certainty that Delcy Rodríguez did not betray Maduro. I have had direct access to documentary, eye-witness, audio and visual evidence that conclusively showed me that:

<Maduro was aware of his likely kidnap and stood down armed resistance.
<In the preceding weeks Rodríguez had been approached to cooperate with Maduro’s removal and had adamantly refused.
<On the night of his kidnap Rodríguez was present, furious, refusing US overtures and seeking every avenue for Maduro’s immediate release.

>I believed these things to be true from first-hand accounts before I wrote my last major article on Venezuela: I am now absolutely certain they are true.

>Venezuela abjured the path of armed resistance to the poised US forces. Venezuela is a quarter the size of Iran, has far weaker armed forces and is within direct bomber range of the United States. It is a pacific country and has chosen to try to ride out the Trump storm, while maintaining the key benefits of the Bolivarian Revolution – especially free and universal education, free healthcare, widespread pensions and the commune system.

>The Chavista system already drew much criticism from the international Left for simply aiming to spread these social benefits from oil revenues, while allowing capitalists to dominate the rest of the economy. Communal ownership of means of production and distribution was growing organically, particularly through the communes, but there has been no fundamental change to the capitalist sector in a mixed economy. It is this factor which makes accommodation with US capitalist firms possible.

>This is dependent on the Venezuelan government tolerating US predator capitalism and the US government tolerating Venezuelan wealth distribution. This is the basis on which Rodríguez has been avoiding war and waiting for Trump to pass. It is the basis on which Trump has been exerting no pressure for regime change in Caracas, where he said again this week that Venezuela was “not ready” for early elections.

>Where there is room for genuine criticism from the Left is that this approach effectively cooperates with imposed American imperialism in key economic sectors; that the US is seeking to expand its monopoly into other Venezuelan mineral resources; and that imagining this is temporary and the Democrats would now be any better is probably illusory.

>But a devastating war is the only currently available alternative, and that definitely would destroy Chávez’s social achievements.

Fell for it

>>2872020
I agree cause the Supreme Leader was killed and islamist cops died.

>>2879442
social democrat backflipping into justifying what increasingly walks, talks, and smells like a right wing comprador government. they are actually saying "we have to be a right wing comprador government in all practical senses for the strategic (indefinitely) long term goal of one day doing socialism, vote for us!" and think that's a serious argument

>>2881523
like they are doomed as a political party one way or the other and just sit there compliant in their own destruction going "what do you want us to DO???", literally demonstrating to a T all of the criticisms of where democratic socialism leads.

>>2881523
this is one of the more interesting parts of his article that the anon should have posted

>There is more. The US has been selling the Venezuelan oil at a 5% discount to the world price. How you calculate a benchmark price for Venezuelan crude before applying the discount I am not sure, as the stuff is quite particular. But – and here we get into the realms of inconvenient facts a lot of my audience will not wish to hear – this compares to the 15% discount that China was imposing when it was the main recipient of Venezuelan crude.

>On top of which, China was making payment not within a week, but with a delay of months and sometimes years. Plus China was deducting money at source for repayment of Chinese loans to Venezuela. These loans were genuine and for excellent infrastructure projects, but obviously the deduction of repayments from oil revenues hit Venezuelan government fiscal flexibility hard.

>>2881527
oh the US has to give some modicum of perks to keep the new colony from rebelling, look everyone the demsuccs got a compromise on their country being raped! WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO THEY HAVE TO BE RIGHT WING THEY HAVE TO IT'S STRATEEEEGIC

>>2881537
missing the point. remove the stick from your butthole and rereading with a more relaxed mind.

>>2881527
>this is one of the more interesting parts of his article that the anon should have posted

It is interesting. I just couldn't be bothered to post more because I doubted anyone would read it, and even when they do there's usually just
>>2881523
<nuance is the faggiest bullshit of all
Tier responses.

>>2881527
if he doesn't know the value of venezuelan oil how can he claim china was getting a 15% discount?

Looks like Rodriguez is transitioning in the opposition.

>>2879442
so how is great genius delcy going to fix the problem of america controlling the accounts where oil payments are made once trump is gone?

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The final blackpill.

>>2890348
what do all the serious communists say about this?

>>2889854
its just an act bro trust the plan bro

>>2890402
Hi, my name is Lenin McMarx and I agree with this message.

>>2890348
i wish i could spit fire like squirrel

>>2881505
But was it really worth all the poor proles (US/IDF soldiers, Blackwater mercs) dying?

>>2890348
finally we have vijay prasah. did delcy sell out venezuela?

Lol fell for it

>>2890348
ropefuel but probably true

Venezuela abandons Nicolás Maduro to fate in US jail - financial times

Venezuela’s government made no mention of freeing jailed ex-president Nicolás Maduro during nearly two weeks of talks with the opposition this month, in the clearest sign yet that the regime has abandoned him to the US justice system.

Interim president Delcy Rodríguez in January called the US capture and exfiltration of Maduro and his wife Cilia Flores a case of “vile aggression”. Her brother, leader of Venezuela’s parliament, said they “will not rest” until he is released from a Brooklyn jail cell, where he faces drug-trafficking charges.

But Rodríguez’s US-backed government surprised the opposition by not even raising those demands during the five negotiating sessions, which concluded last week, several people present told the FT.

“Maduro and Flores simply do not exist at the negotiating table,” said one opposition figure. “They have erased them from history.”

The US government has backed Rodríguez, Maduro’s vice-president, since its commandos snatched the autocratic leader in a brazen night-time raid on January 3. In return, she has opened up the country’s vast natural resources to overseas investors, giving US companies access to its oil reserves.

The first round of negotiations with the opposition was intended to agree on steps for a new presidential election but yielded few concrete results.

The two sides focused on how to fund the recovery from June’s devastating earthquakes, demanding the repatriation of some $4bn of gold bullion stored in Bank of England vaults. They also agreed to start working to reform the justice system.

After the talks concluded, the government said it had released 131 political prisoners, though rights group Foro Penal said they could only verify that at least 78 had been freed.

But such a fate did not seem to be on the cards for Maduro, whom life-long revolutionary socialist Rodríguez once called Venezuela’s “one and only” president, analysts said.

As far as the government is concerned, “his fate is already sealed”, said Edward Rodríguez, a Venezuelan analyst and consultant. “They’ll let the case run its course while they focus on their only priority: survival.”

Rodríguez was initially forthright in demanding Maduro’s release straight after his capture as she consolidated the support of hardliners in the security services. But she has since replaced top military leaders with her own supporters, while powerful security chief Diosdado Cabello has also abruptly drawn closer to Washington.

Signs and billboards calling for the pair’s release were erected in cities across Venezuela in January; many have since been taken down. Pro-Maduro murals painted before his arrest have been scrubbed over. Just a handful of oversized portraits of the deposed first couple remain in Caracas.

Rodríguez, whose succinct public speeches mark a break with Maduro’s folksy and fiery diatribes, seldom mentions her old boss during public appearances — including in her speech after the talks ended.

But Maduro, the handpicked heir to the revolutionary socialist project of the late president Hugo Chávez, continues to inspire support from hardcore Chavistas, as supporters of the movement are known.

“I disagree with these talks, because Trump cannot be allowed to keep imposing things on us while the agreement does not even mention the president who was kidnapped,” said Ricardo García, a grassroots Chavista who, like many loyalists, believes Maduro was betrayed by members of his inner circle and handed over to US forces.

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Lol

>>2890402
2 years ago ago there was a big controversy because the psuv (socdem government party) was completely purging the pcv (communist party) from the government coalition. since chavez they had a testimonial place in the coalition, but now they have been removed even from that

even if the kidnapping and this whole thing were arranged, the outcome won't, because the usa has zero incentives to stick to whatever they agreed with venezuela

>>2904046
>the psuv (socdem government party) was completely purging the pcv (communist party) from the government coalition
wasnt this because of the obvious glowie taking control of the communist party (and all of its member leaving very fast when they saw how glowing their leadership was)

>>2895647
It gets harder to believe the plan everyday delcisters…

>>2904133
Delcy still has shills here who will attack you relentlessly for questioning her in Anyway

A woman assumed the leadership of an actually existing socialist country and suddenly everyone is freaking out!! No anti imperialist said anything about Kim being a traitor when Trump praised him, or about Xi being a sellout when he maintained the flow of oil to the US, or even about Putin being a zionist when he paraded hand in hand with Bibi, yet a socialist woman does those things and she's immediately slandered. That's just plain old machismo, the patriarchal attitude among leftists is really problematic and needs to be tackled

>>2904817
Who

Lol

Apparently the plan is to let yankeestadors come in and build all this expensive oil infrastructure and then nationalize it.

I'll start making copies of the Delcy Rodriguez Apology Forms now.

>>2904817
>No anti imperialist said anything about Kim being a traitor when Trump praised him
Kim didn't take out a giant IMF loan or meet with the head of the CIA.
>or about Xi being a sellout when he maintained the flow of oil to the US, or even about Putin being a zionist when he paraded hand in hand with Bibi
People say this kind of stuff all the time.

>>2904120
>wasnt this because of the obvious glowie taking control of the communist party
Surely you see the irony of this accusation given what's happened since then.

>>2904120
no, back then it seemed like the usual petty intestine conflict of people calling each other revisionist over a city council seat here, a cabinet position there. the pcv has long regarded the psuv as opportunist, even if they are technically allies

>>2890348
China trades with Israel. Mexico trades with Israel. Spain trades with Israel.
Not sure why internet personalities put an unrealistic double standard on Venezuela.

>>2890348
I've been saying this for a looong time. Only a matter of time for Venezuela to go like this, since they were nothing more than ultra-corrupt succdems. Any hint of corruption means the person will be fine with selling out, like we saw with the CPSU and the Eastern European Communist Parties who all switched to becoming Nationalist Neolibs in the 1980s. Only good thing about Maduro was supporting Cuba.
Anyway, more "Socialism" for the Delcyfags here
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/1/white-house-unveils-more-details-of-trumps-venezuela-oil-deal
100 years of oil to the United States!