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Previous Thread >>2634712
397 posts and 117 image replies omitted.

>>2866610
Leftcoms would unironically walk into a 1980s Nicaraguan village after every man woman and child had been murdered by the Contras and say "this happened because they didn't abolish the value form".

>>2865959
Why the selfies?

>>2866606
>>2866610
>>2866614
yeah but also it's looking like delcy was implicit in this from the start
why were the defenses basically down for the kidnapping to happen

>>2866606
>>2866610
>>2866614


The US "succeeded" without barely even trying because the Venezuelan govt joined the US in its game to take out Russian and Iranian oil so that space could be created for Venezuelan oil on the market.

We were proven right about the capitalist (economically, socially, politically and ideologically) nature of Venezuela. Not that this event was even necessary to figure that out, it was obvious right from the start, but if you're gonna do reality denial even at this stage then you're NGMI

>>2866626
>america to delcy: cooperate or we'll slaughter your people, steal your oil and annex your land
<americans: fucking delcy betrayed venezuela and the revolution. They deserve everything they get and worse. We NEED to have a CONVERSATION about WOMEN leaders 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

>>2866643
As somebody in association with the venezuelan government…

Delcy deserves death and will bring about the end of the revolution. The United States was threaten by how manduro wanted to annex western ghana and also wanted to secure oil interests in the region. He was gonna spread the trotskyist revolution

leftcomfags be like:
>if Venezuela had a REAL MANLY LEADER and not a FEMALE then american troops would be genociding the venezuelan people as we speak. CHECKMATE MLs!!!!!!

>>2866651
>As somebody in association with the venezuelan government…
its not everyday cia glowies are so open about their propaganda efforts, begone scum

>Petain is a true patriot, we can't fight the nazis, they would kill our people, steal our ressources, and annex our lands, we can only cooperate with Germany
This is how Delcy supporters sounds

>equating un-conquered venezuela to conquered france
most sophisticated ultra argument

>>2866641
>The US "succeeded" without barely even trying
Yeah man all they did was bomb the capital, kill dozens of people, and kidnap the president.
>We were proven right about the capitalist (economically, socially, politically and ideologically) nature of Venezuela
If you were right about that then there wouldn't have been any need for regime change. The fact is that the existing government wasn't friendly to the US agenda, so it had to be removed and replaced with one that was.


>>2866643
actually if capitalists threaten the revolution at all, revolutionaries should just give in immediately even before a single shot has been fired, just give up right the fuck now and go back to work, prolebitch.

>>2866643
Ah well i guess there was just no way to resist since the country is just a flat steppe and not 90% humid jungle labyrinth to retreat…
The only argument for the cuck out is that neither Chavez nor Maduro previously moved the capital in the center of the country, incredibly idiotic decision to still have all your elites on the coastal town.
Maduro was exceptionaly inept as a leader.
>>2866702
>Yeah man all they did was bomb the capital, kill dozens of people, and kidnap the president.
That tend to happen when you just let the ennemy in.

genuinely what the fuck is the point of having a socialist state to "secure the revolution" if the state is what sells it out?

>>2866724
>>2866729
>this retarded
can any force in venezuela stop america if they decided to invade, genocide and plunder venezuela tomorrow if they decided to? no? then delcy and co are one of the few interest groups in the way of that, and are undoubtably waging a revolutionary struggle. on the other hand, could any force in iran stop america if they decided to invade, genocide and plunder after they decided to? yes? then it was obviously better to respond to american violence with violence, that is the difference moron

>>2866729
Yes your clique of cool people will just mog the CIA into retreat.

>>2866729
the only thing worse than giving up without fighting is giving up after sacrificing a few million venezuelan workers and losing. want an example of a lost cause? look at ukraine LOL

>>2866728
>That tend to happen when you just let the ennemy in.
Pinochet was part of Allende's government. That doesn't mean it wasn't a coup, or that there was no regime change.

>>2866739
>can any force in venezuela stop america if they decided to invade, genocide and plunder venezuela tomorrow if they decided to? no?
According to WHAT
>>2866741
>>2866749
>Yes your clique of cool people will just mog the CIA into retreat.
again why even bother trying if your argument is "the capitalists will resist"

shit i mean maybe nobody should ever even bother resisting capitalists.

>>2866793
>According to WHAT
do you seriously think venezuela would actually stand a chance against the imperialists? is america not a regional (or global, whatever you prefer) superpower with nukes and a global economic system priced in dollars all of a sudden? go ahead and victim blame some more tho it really helps your stupidass argument

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>american 'commies to venezuelan workers: we need u to die bro just sacrifice everything to fight my employer thats raping your country bro just fight in the jungle and think of the international revolution bro the world is counting on YOU dont ask about me im fighting the imperialists too bro trust me now pick up that gun and head for the jungle bro nothing can be accomplished without u dying for my ideology bro you're an actual traitor to humanity if u live to fight another day

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I can't tell if the above post is mocking neo-3rd worldist or leftcoms.

>>2866807
There is no point in building up strongholds of socialism, got it.

>>2866828
I don't take issue with the argument that Venezuela could and should have put up stiffer resistance. My issue is with the notion that successful regime change means that there was nothing worthwhile being built in the first place.

>>2866828
>he thinks building socialism on the opposite side of the planet has the EXACT SAME challenges as building socialism in americas backyard
>he thinks building socialism in americas backyard is actually just as easy as the DPRK building socialism under the explicit protection of China
american exceptionalist moment. please blow your brains out

>>2866831
bro marx was advocating that the lever of english anticapitalism had to be applied in ireland while ireland was under colonial rule literally right next door to the world's superpower, while it had no meaningful connections to anywhere else.

>>2866837
and yet ireland has still not been fully liberated in our modern (mostly) post-colonial world. what does that tell you about the difficulty of sovereignty next to an imperialist superpower, let alone toying with the idea of socialist construction? it would be just as ludicrous to blame venezuela for their subordination to america as it would be to blame the irish for their subordination to the UK. (and no, the current irish state despite being 'independent' is still a slave to the UK, for example irish airspace is controlled by london and they always intercept russian planes in it despite irish protest)

yes faggots
venezuela should've sacrificed itself and bled
their subservience directly emboldened trump and encouraged his shenanigans in iran and elsewhere

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>>2866867
>shenanigans in iran
shenanigans that america eventually lost, so props to delcy

>>2866876
it isnt over. america is bombing iran right now

>>2866877
>t. Rumsfeld
bombing raids haven't accomplished anything since the first gulf war, america automatically loses so long as the nuclear dust still exists

The comparisons to Iran are pretty telling since its an example of a country that actually has resolutely resisted US pressure and all we hear from leftcoms is how its an inter-imperialist conflict and the Iranian ruling class are just sacrificing their own proles for profits. They come into this threat to gloat about how Venezuela's capitulation proves them right but Iran proves that if Venezuela had resisted they'd just find some other reason to complain. These people just fundamentally don't believe a better world is possible.

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Miss him yet?

>>2866883
is this real

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<The secretary of state [marco rubio] effectively controls Venezuela’s finances, the distribution of its natural resources and its government. His grip on the country is a vivid manifestation of American power in the Trump era.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/11/us/politics/how-marco-rubio-runs-venezuela.html

Venezuela is officially the most cucked country of the continent, congrats bolivaricels

>>2867012
>nytimes

>>2867012
>most cucked country of the continent
No that would be Paraguay

>>2866882
>better world
<look inside
>its social-democracy and islamic theocracy

>>2867197
Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change. You people claim to believe in the possibility of "real socialism" but never point to any state, movement, or actor that is actually bringing us closer to it.

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>>2865959
Golinger is interesting because she was close to Chavez but broke with Maduro (from the left), alleging the project degenerated into corrupt cronyism. She had been saying that kind of stuff for several years.

>>2867308
>Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change.
big if true

>>2867013
In the six months since U.S. forces blew open Mr. Maduro’s bedroom door and snatched him in the dead of night, Mr. Rubio has become the de facto viceroy of Venezuela, holding sway over a sovereign nation in a way that no American official has since L. Paul Bremer III arrived in Baghdad in 2003 to run U.S.-occupied Iraq.

While he has not visited Venezuela in person since the U.S. took over, the secretary of state is deeply involved in the country’s day-to-day operations, keeping in close contact with Delcy Rodríguez, who was Mr. Maduro’s vice president and now leads her country on an acting basis, with the imprimatur of the United States. The two exchange messages in Spanish on WhatsApp, trading gossip, birthday greetings and selfies.

The U.S. Treasury receives the revenue from most of Venezuela’s exports, then disburses it to Venezuela through the country’s banking system, a relationship akin to parents handing out allowances to children. Mr. Rubio and his team set the conditions on what that money can be spent on, and by whom.

He also oversees the application of U.S. sanctions on Venezuela, deciding who gets to do business in the country and how. He has worked to reshape the oil sector and boosted the access of U.S. companies. For her part, Ms. Rodríguez runs important government appointments by him, such as the minister of defense.

In the early hours of Jan. 3, shortly after Mr. Maduro was captured, Mr. Rubio reached Ms. Rodríguez by phone. Speaking in Spanish, Mr. Rubio told her that she had a choice between working with the United States or witnessing a broader attack targeting Venezuela’s infrastructure, military bases and senior officials.

As Ms. Rodríguez started to set up her government, Mr. Rubio weighed in on key personnel decisions, and encouraged her to purge Mr. Maduro’s family and business partners. She followed through.

Before the earthquakes, Ms. Rodríguez had been asking Mr. Rubio for more financial autonomy and the scrapping of economic sanctions, to reduce the domestic pressure on her government.

Mr. Rubio has been sympathetic to her arguments, but the U.S. government has not released control.

Mr. Rubio and other officials have dismissed those concerns, pointing to how Ms. Rodríguez has followed nearly every order the administration has made, especially those related to the country’s finances. Venezuela sells much of its oil through two oil trading companies, Trafigura and Vitol, in an arrangement set up by the Trump administration.

Mr. Rubio has largely eclipsed Chris Wright, the energy secretary, in opening up Venezuela’s oil industry to foreign investment, the cornerstone of Mr. Trump’s vision for the country. He has prioritized the arrival of new American companies at the expense of European oil producers who were already working in the country.

Washington’s grip on Venezuela’s economy extends beyond the oil revenues. Mr. Rubio’s team drafts the licenses that provide companies who want to do business in Venezuela with exemptions from sanctions. Mr. Rubio has warned Ms. Rodríguez’s government to abstain from business with U.S. adversaries. Following Mr. Maduro’s downfall, for example, Venezuela’s state oil company has quietly taken over the operations of the oil projects that it co-owns with Russia’s state-run Rosneft. Rosneft did not respond to request for comment.

The Trump administration has also successfully pressured Ms. Rodríguez to turn over Venezuelans who have crossed the Justice Department. At the behest of the United States, Ms. Rodríguez’s government in February detained Alex Saab, the billionaire friend and business partner of Mr. Maduro, and approved his extradition to the United States, after stripping him of his Venezuelan passport.

The Trump administration even exerts control over Ms. Rodríguez’s public appearances and statements. In May, Mr. Rubio announced that Ms. Rodríguez would travel to India before the Venezuelan government mentioned it, surprising Venezuelan officials and foreign diplomats.

When the Fox News anchor Bret Baier contacted Ms. Rodríguez about participating in an interview, she told him that Mr. Trump would have to approve. Mr. Trump loved that Ms. Rodríguez was deferring to him, and has repeatedly recounted the story to others when they ask about her, according to multiple people familiar with his comments.

When the United States attacked Iran, Yvan Gil, Venezuela’s foreign minister, issued a soft condemnation of the aggression against Venezuela’s longtime ally.
The Trump administration communicated to Ms. Rodríguez that the post should be taken down, and warned her not to publicly support its adversaries again. Mr. Gil deleted the post hours after posting it.

https://archive.is/eXVJn

>>2867308
>Like it or not these forces are acting as catalysts for more radical change.

It's catalyst for USA becoming the largest exporter of oil on the planet, keeping oil prices high so that US shale is profitable, disrupt global economy right as China's is making exports push, and creating space in the market for Venezuelan (now a US vassal) oil.

Communism on the other hand, is nowhere to be seen. But don't worry maybe we'll elect some DSA succdems on anti-war pro-treat platform.

>You people claim to believe in the possibility of "real socialism" but never point to any state, movement, or actor that is actually bringing us closer to it.


Because none exist lol. Understanding this simple fact will answer literally everything. Seriously, you will never have doubts, confusions, existential dread, feelings of betrayal when you finally understand this.

>>2867197
Exactly. It's not Delcy's betrayal that is "proof" of Venezuelan capitalist nature. It's the fact that its…a capitalist country that exploits labor for profit.

Like if you believe in the Marxist criticism of exploitation and wage-labor and anarchy of production at all, then you have to jump some real hoops to pretend that Venezuelan companies are somehow not exploiting while other countries that do the exact same thing are exploiting. Venezuela doesn't even have the plausible deniabiltiy of "building productive forces", they have been horribly mismanaging their economy through corruption and incompetence.

Fucking Peru or Ecuadaor have done a much better job of actually improving the standard of living of ordinary people and they didnt need to LARP as socialist to achieve that.

>>2867380
>Because none exist lol.
None exist. None ever have existed. None will exist. You don't believe change is possible, which is why you are a liberal.

>>2867385
nvclear trvth bvmb
the only purpose of leftkkkoms is to attack other socialists
they serve no other purpose
they build nothing and offer no alternatives
it doesn't matter whether you're a maoist stalinist trotskyist or any other tendency there will always be an annoying leftkkkom yapping from his chair about how they're all actually capitalists.

>>2867385
>You don't believe change is possible
if you call social-democracy or state capitalism "AES" its you that thinks change is impossible because you have turned socialism into something identical to capitalism


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