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What do you think about rightoids who idolize autocracies and isolationism like Juche?
They have been pushing for a multi-polar world and I have definitely seen rightoids that idolize centralized governments, mainly Russia but also places like North Korea and Juche for being self relying and so on.

>maga
>multipolar

you should see what the US is doing right now…

>>2644051
If "rightoids" come to the right position for the wrong reason, who cares? Do we really care about spooks like "left" and "right"? Support for DPRK is the correct anti-imperialist position.

Burgerboo multipolaroids.
Usually hated by third-worldist multipolaroids and euroboo multipolaroids.

>>2644125
1.000 years of social democracy it is

>>2644051
>MAGA-Communism
>rightoids
>autocracies
>isolationism
>Juche
>multi-polar
>centralized
>Russia
>North Korea

what kinda brainworms do you have to have to mash all this shit into one retard stew? they have almost nothing to do with each other

>>2644406
NTA but I once saw someone on USApol describe this phenomena as burger rightoids falling for pro-intervention propaganda about everything outside the NATO bloc being an ebil authortarian state that hates free and open liberal societies but thinking the way NED and USAID describe other countries is actually cool and based. It was already but into a single mental association but freedomhouse style libs but the MAGAcoms decided all that shit is kewl.

maga communism is retarded you can tell because Trump is most zionist president ever and just kidnapped Maduro

maga-communists are dumb but not right wing

states described as autocracies usually arent its just another way to say authoritarian or totalitarian, which they also usually are not. its also conflated with autarky which is good and only free market libs thinks its bad. autocracy usually means democratically elected leader who refuses to be dependent on imperialist corpos

isolation is usually imposed like in the case of korea and cuba, its not a choice and its not good

isolation in the case of the us is good because it gets them to fuck off and leave other people alone, but its in contradiction with profit seeking

juche is good and based
multipolarity is good and based
centralization in politics and economics is good and based

north korea is communist, russia isn't but they are an anti-imperialist bulwark and support china which is communist and based

>>2644051
>What do you think about rightoids who idolize autocracies and isolationism like Juche?
At least here in the U.S., being into North Korea is a highly fringe position, so I think part of what's going on with White Juche types or whatever is that it's attractive precisely because it's fringe and weird. It's not like many of them have actually been to the DPRK either (although it's not unheard of) so it functions mostly at the level of symbolism and aesthetics for them.

>>2644051
>What do you think about rightoids who idolize autocracies and isolationism like Juche? and I have definitely seen rightoids that idolize centralized governments,
Not surprised at all that rightoids enjoy this kind of authoritarian and nationalist policies. Its natural for them.

Can someone perma this faggot already? Most obvious bait poster on this entire site

MAGA communism sucks because it is just "What if we do communism but transphobic and pro-Putin" the

>>2644125
Glory to Juche

>>2644535
New year, new ism, new aesthetic

>>2644535
A little bit.
They are opposed to the big pharma backed transhumanist movement. A lot of people recognize concepts of non gender conforming people existed for millennia, Jesus even bless unichs, however the modern hormone and surgery solution to gender dysphoria might not be the best for the workers.
As far as being pro Putin, it's hard to be anti imperialist and not support him. He is one of the biggest opponents of western imperialism and has introduced a number of social services and reforms for the Russian people that haven't been seen since the USSR. He might be socially conservative but he cares for his people much more than any western leaders including liberals like Biden and Obama.

>>2645692
they just hate transhumanists because they're ugly and ugly people make them angry
any other justification they come up with is done after the fact to make them seem less deranged

>>2644412
Lmao this is so true

>>2644051
they secretly just want china, but don't wanna admit it

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>>2655568
No, they secretly just want the nonexistent version of Russia described by CIA propaganda. If you told them that a product of Chinese popular culture came from Japan, they would instantly call it degeneracy that would be banned under communism.

>>2655626
Ban marvel and star wars but only because they suck

>>2655568
Secretly?
We will build China in America. Simple as that.

>>2644125
"MAGA-Communists" don't come to the right conclusions. It'sa bunch of rightoid forever-contrarians who stand for nothing. They take the aesthetics of communism from reaganite pop culture and apply it to their retarded idiolization of their favorite child rapist billionaire.

>>2655626
>production of too many useful things produces too many useless people
What is Marx saying? Can someone explain? Is he saying there will be too much unemployed people if too much useful things are produced?

>>2656894
The quote's chopped up kind of strange, but basically, he's saying that the kind of infinite increases in productivity that certain economically minded types value is a poor metric for success. Instead, productivity is to be seen as a means to improve material conditions, not an end unto itself.

fascist maga people who want the us to have imperial aspirations but only in their sphere of influence (latam/greenland) while leaving the rest of the world alone are actually better off for the future than the unipolar neoliberal world order.

I say better, not good.

>>2644051
I think it's based, and me and the homie were just talking about that and this video
https://youtu.be/sTFP9jYmiIA?si=yls1R5wfJMp8Yfnu
>Everything you thought was cool at 12 still is

Rightoids believe they can just send the army into inner cities and displace all the Mexicans? Why not? Noone fucking cared when they shot brown people abroad. Why can't they should native brown people? Because they're citizens? Who says they're citizens?

Why can't Trump seize Greenland and turn it into a giant crypto and ai porn slop factory?
>But…but…
We got nukes motherfucker. Nukes are cool. Give us the Greenland or we use the nukes.
>Well we'll uhhh just stop doing business with the US!
Capitalism sucks anyway. You ain't threatening me. Besides there's like 300 million people in the US. Amerikkka could totally North Korea and probably do it astoundingly well once we get those precious Greenland minerals. Imma suck on that uranium and zinc like it was Sarah's pussy.

I think pussy contains zinc anyway. I know semen does, it's actually an important component to semen. I'm already more of a medical expert than RFK.

We should actually abolish prisons too for real communisms, give every convicted felon a job in the military. They're experts on killing people after all, and killing people is cool.

Well, people I think should be killed. Not me, that'd be bad. I'm 12, don't kill me, I'm just a little boy UwU.

But if you did kill me that'd be ok too cause I'm going to heaven anyway BECAUSE I'M FUCKING 12 AND BELIEVE THAT DUMB SHIT but you won't be there, cause I'm also a petty 12 year old. You gotta go to some bad place with redditors and jannies. That's probably on fire because none of y'all can even boil rice because you're 12 too. You're just the bad 12 year olds.

politicians barely do anything, only the citizens know what's best

when are you guys gonna figure out that they don't support trump

>>2657399
Right. They align more with CNN.

>>2657420
even fucking CNN states it but people here still believe communism is democratic so its *gotta* be about "the majority"

>muh haz

idk how that retard can correctly point out skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles and then say shit like "uhhh baristas arent proles bc uhhhhhhh purple hair"

There is no cohesive observable ideological core for the MIGA movement. It's a tool to control the cattle.
On top it's imperialism, on the bottom the tune changes every 5 minutes. One second it's "globalism sucks", the second "we invaded a country and kidnapped its president, and we're supporting regime change on the other side of the world, and we're sending more weapons to Israel"

>>2657422
>even fucking CNN states it
Maybe, just maybe, the fact that you agree with CNN, the libest of all lib outlets, that working class = white people without four year degrees, is a sign that you don't actually know shit about Marxian class relations and should probably study up.

>skilled professionals have vastly different material interests to proles

The labor aristocracy is still a segment of the proletariat. A programmer might have a higher quality of life than a factory worker, but at a fundamental level, they're both exploited by the bourgeois in the exact same way. Working class, in the context of Marxian economics, does not mean "poor person", it means anyone who provides a product or a service to an employer who then profits off said good or service. Poverty is an effect of this relationship, not a cause, and starts affecting more and more people further up the pecking order the more emboldened the bourgeois becomes and the further capitalism advaces.

>>2657420
why do you think the working class is comprised exclusively of white people

>>2657464
I don't. CNN sure does though.


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